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Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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"Harder daddy harder!"
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How far are you sticking the boot in your mouth? Do they promise not to cum in your mouth?
Anya15
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A convenience store in the town I grew up in got robbed like 3 times in a few months during the pandemic and ended up installing cameras at the entrance and everyone who enters has to take their mask down and show their face to the camera before entering.
I can't say I blame them but it still feels very gritty and dystopian.
Super-Chevy454
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First wave...then a second wave....a third one and now they use the fourth wave boogeyman.
https://www.axios.com/cdc-fourth-wave-db0a4d6e-3942-4719-9743-62912e5557e0.html ( https://archive.ph/5ta21 )
https://www.axios.com/cdc-fourth-wave-db0a4d6e-3942-4719-9743-62912e5557e0.html ( https://archive.ph/5ta21 )
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Let's talk a bit more about how retarded "vaccine passports" are.
So, from my understanding, the general concept is that you provide proof of vaccination to the authorities in charge of this scheme, then they give you a QR code that you'll have to scan anywhere it's needed, or else you won't be let in. Presumably, the bare minimum would include any federal location or whenever you're going through TSA checkpoints before getting on a plane, but I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to force businesses, schools, churches, or any other location to do it too. There would have to be an entire database managed by the feds, always available online at all times for these scanners to work.
The biggest problem here, bigger than even the legality of the scheme to me, is the fact that government tech "solutions" never work. The most obvious example, of course, is the entire healthcare.gov debacle, where a simple website crashed and burned out of the gate, and probably still isn't anywhere near as decent as it could be. Tech platforms like these are just money pits, delivering subpar implementations at best, completely broken garbage at worst. Fuck, people were having problems just finding out if their stimmy payments were on the way, and you seriously expect me to trust the feds with something like this? No thanks.
Further, consider how much additional bloat would be spread across the country due to all times this system would have to be accessed daily. In a country of over 300 million people, even if each person only has to check in once a day, that's still over 300 million hits to the database. You'll also have to have people at every door monitoring the scanners and forcing people to leave if they don't have a code, which probably means more staff hires that may or may not be affordable. Maybe you can reassign some security guards that you already have on staff, but then you have less security. You might also have lines of people waiting to get in, especially if scans don't work or take too long.
Which leads to another point, what happens when the system goes down? Are people just supposed to hang around and do nothing while waiting for it to come back up? What if your phone isn't cooperating, or what if there's an internet outage in your area? There are so many failure points that inevitably something will go wrong, and the proponents of this scheme have no answers for what would be done in such a scenario.
As mentioned earlier, there's certainly multiple legal issues at play here. Again, I'm no expert, but it seems to me that if you're using coercion to force people to give up their medical info and circumvent HIPAA, that shouldn't hold up in court. It's like holding a gun to someone's head to force them to sign over their house to you; yeah, it's in writing, but it sure wasn't done on the up and up. Maybe someone who's better versed in the law can provide clarification, but if you're effectively saying "you have to give up this info or you'll be barred from public society," that's pretty clear coercion to me, trampling over what little privacy we have left.
And speaking of privacy, I'm sure that the bozos in charge of this idea would also store location data for every place you check in, so that's nice. I'm well aware that there's already plenty of location data stored on a multitude of servers, and it's almost impossible to completely avoid it, but I'd rather not have another database tracking my every movement if possible.
Finally, it's telling that we've had vaccines for much more serious diseases for decades, but we've never needed to prove that we've gotten our MMR or polio shots just to go into the fucking 7-11. Hell, such a scheme has never been proposed for the flu shot every year either. Why go to all this trouble for a virus that continues to get less deadly by the day, and was never all that deadly to begin with? I mean, I know the answer, it has nothing to do with the virus and everything to do with societal control, but still, they could try to make it less obvious.
God bless DeSantis for taking an immediate stand against this lunacy. Here's hoping that other free state governors follow his lead.
So, from my understanding, the general concept is that you provide proof of vaccination to the authorities in charge of this scheme, then they give you a QR code that you'll have to scan anywhere it's needed, or else you won't be let in. Presumably, the bare minimum would include any federal location or whenever you're going through TSA checkpoints before getting on a plane, but I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to force businesses, schools, churches, or any other location to do it too. There would have to be an entire database managed by the feds, always available online at all times for these scanners to work.
The biggest problem here, bigger than even the legality of the scheme to me, is the fact that government tech "solutions" never work. The most obvious example, of course, is the entire healthcare.gov debacle, where a simple website crashed and burned out of the gate, and probably still isn't anywhere near as decent as it could be. Tech platforms like these are just money pits, delivering subpar implementations at best, completely broken garbage at worst. Fuck, people were having problems just finding out if their stimmy payments were on the way, and you seriously expect me to trust the feds with something like this? No thanks.
Further, consider how much additional bloat would be spread across the country due to all times this system would have to be accessed daily. In a country of over 300 million people, even if each person only has to check in once a day, that's still over 300 million hits to the database. You'll also have to have people at every door monitoring the scanners and forcing people to leave if they don't have a code, which probably means more staff hires that may or may not be affordable. Maybe you can reassign some security guards that you already have on staff, but then you have less security. You might also have lines of people waiting to get in, especially if scans don't work or take too long.
Which leads to another point, what happens when the system goes down? Are people just supposed to hang around and do nothing while waiting for it to come back up? What if your phone isn't cooperating, or what if there's an internet outage in your area? There are so many failure points that inevitably something will go wrong, and the proponents of this scheme have no answers for what would be done in such a scenario.
As mentioned earlier, there's certainly multiple legal issues at play here. Again, I'm no expert, but it seems to me that if you're using coercion to force people to give up their medical info and circumvent HIPAA, that shouldn't hold up in court. It's like holding a gun to someone's head to force them to sign over their house to you; yeah, it's in writing, but it sure wasn't done on the up and up. Maybe someone who's better versed in the law can provide clarification, but if you're effectively saying "you have to give up this info or you'll be barred from public society," that's pretty clear coercion to me, trampling over what little privacy we have left.
And speaking of privacy, I'm sure that the bozos in charge of this idea would also store location data for every place you check in, so that's nice. I'm well aware that there's already plenty of location data stored on a multitude of servers, and it's almost impossible to completely avoid it, but I'd rather not have another database tracking my every movement if possible.
Finally, it's telling that we've had vaccines for much more serious diseases for decades, but we've never needed to prove that we've gotten our MMR or polio shots just to go into the fucking 7-11. Hell, such a scheme has never been proposed for the flu shot every year either. Why go to all this trouble for a virus that continues to get less deadly by the day, and was never all that deadly to begin with? I mean, I know the answer, it has nothing to do with the virus and everything to do with societal control, but still, they could try to make it less obvious.
God bless DeSantis for taking an immediate stand against this lunacy. Here's hoping that other free state governors follow his lead.
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In clownworld you are sick until proven healthy and healthy people can spread a deadly plague just by breathing.
The worst part, most people believe this and demand your freedoms are taken away so they can feel that sweet sweet illusion of safety.
We deserve what's coming.
The worst part, most people believe this and demand your freedoms are taken away so they can feel that sweet sweet illusion of safety.
We deserve what's coming.
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they didn't pray to science hard enough
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I have a feeling there will be a lot of converts to various religions that don't allow vaccinations in the near future.
Sorry I've made fun of you bros so hard.
Sorry I've made fun of you bros so hard.
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Science demands a sacrifice! The white people causing all the world's problems, they'll do
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Let me throw in one more possible piece of re,tardation here: a "vaccine passport" (at least domestically) is most useful at the critical stage when local governments are attempting to get as many people vaxed as quickly as possible with the goal of reopening society as per normal - that means that for the US, the window for getting this thing up and running in any useful capacity is roughly between now and early summer, when it's looking quite likely that 70-80% of the general population will be vaxed, and most of those who remain will be the hardcore anti-vaxers, those who simply can't get the vaccine due to pre-existing healthcare conditions, and n,iggers too dumb to find the nearest vaccination site. If the public health value of a vaccine passport is dubious now, it is not only flat-out worthless at that stage and will invariably create a two-tier society.
And this is on top of public health shitheads from Fauci down who are both pushing for a vaccine passport AND also say getting vaccinated makes no fucking difference. Wrap your smooth brain around that one.
I'm sure the federal government will be able to get this up and running with no problems whatsoever in 4 to 6 weeks. I have total faith in the system.
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Science demands a sacrifice! The white people causing all the world's problems, they'll do
All hail science
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If the commie globalists' agenda really is to greatly reduce our population, after seeing all the covidiots going along with this shit I don't disagree with them (except in who they are targeting).
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No clue why nobody hasn't posted the footage yet
Florida Gov. DeSantis says he’ll be taking executive action against "vaccine passports."
Florida Gov. DeSantis says he’ll be taking executive action against "vaccine passports."
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"Please put the masks back on! You're exposing this for the shame it really is and making us look like assholes!"
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Nothing better demonstrates that point than that exchange between Ted Cruz and a random reporter at a press conference a couple days ago. The reporter demanded Ted put his mask on, Ted said "uh, no, we're all vaccinated and nobody's sick, I'm not gonna make myself less easily understood at a press conference." Then the reporter admitted the only reason they wanted Ted to mask up was to make the press feel better, to which he reminded them that they could just stand back if they were that butthurt about it.
It's all theater, and it's pretty impressive and sad how quickly everyone just fell in line. Luckily, I'm seeing the brainwashing start to wear off around here after the mandates were rescinded; there are still quite a few wearing masks, but more and more are dropping the charade. Been inside multiple businesses without my mask on, and even the ones with signage about masks haven't given me trouble. I'm guessing employees are following the "I'm not getting paid enough to deal with that shit" rationale. Better to live and let live than deal with a potential confrontation.
And of course, it makes even less sense as time goes on and the coof ends up following the same pattern that all pandemics do: mutate to become less deadly and more transmissible, until it inevitably becomes more or less indistinguishable from all other common cold viruses. 2020 will end up being the deadliest year for the coof (short of a gigantic gaslighting campaign where the entire medical industry, government, and media lie about the numbers forever), and the need for vaccines for it will be no more than the flu, probably even less.Let me throw in one more possible piece of re,tardation here: a "vaccine passport" (at least domestically) is most useful at the critical stage when local governments are attempting to get as many people vaxed as quickly as possible with the goal of reopening society as per normal - that means that for the US, the window for getting this thing up and running in any useful capacity is roughly between now and early summer, when it's looking quite likely that 70-80% of the general population will be vaxed, and most of those who remain will be the hardcore anti-vaxers, those who simply can't get the vaccine due to pre-existing healthcare conditions, and n,iggers too dumb to find the nearest vaccination site. If the public health value of a vaccine passport is dubious now, it is not only flat-out worthless at that stage and will invariably create a two-tier society.
And this is on top of public health shitheads from Fauci down who are both pushing for a vaccine passport AND also say getting vaccinated makes no fucking difference. Wrap your smooth brain around that one.
I'm sure the federal government will be able to get this up and running with no problems whatsoever in 4 to 6 weeks. I have total faith in the system.
But hey, your tax dollars at work. Not like we could spend that money on something actually useful.
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How come voter ID is racist but the vaccine passport isn't? Is the extra $25 between a $50 cheapo Chinese smartphone and a $75 ID card really that far out of reach for the black population?
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