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By extension, she is probably responsible for the trooning of numerous of fag hags who get off on the idea of sexy men with dark secrets being angsty with one another.
Nah, that's on them and it only came later. Anne Rice is pretty terrible, but I enjoyed some good ol' emovamp slash fiction and Tom Cruise in a wig being fujobaity back in the day. Nothing wrong with it as long as you keep it in your head or on your livejournal.

I really don't understand why fujos did a turn into troonism. It seemed to happen at the same time that everything was deemed 'problematic'. At least the early fujos knew what they were making - porn and lewds for young women. Not self-mutilation and making everything as vanilla softboy as possible.
 
Nah, that's on them and it only came later. Anne Rice is pretty terrible, but I enjoyed some good ol' emovamp slash fiction and Tom Cruise in a wig being fujobaity back in the day. Nothing wrong with it as long as you keep it in your head or on your livejournal.

I really don't understand why fujos did a turn into troonism. It seemed to happen at the same time that everything was deemed 'problematic'. At least the early fujos knew what they were making - porn and lewds for young women. Not self-mutilation and making everything as vanilla softboy as possible.
I don't really have a problem with Fujos. I used to hang out in a lot of fujo-infested spaces so I have a soft spot for them, they can be pretty funny and some of them are genuinelly talented translators/cleaners/typesetters who do a lot of work for little return making manga accessible for an english speaking audience (degenerate yaoi manga, but still).

The emovamp trend has definitely contributed to a certain 'type' of man in pop culture which inspires a lot of these FTM girls, though. Shows liek Supernatural and media like Twilight couldn't exist without Anne Rice's work.
 
I don't really have a problem with Fujos. I used to hang out in a lot of fujo-infested spaces so I have a soft spot for them, they can be pretty funny and some of them are genuinelly talented translators/cleaners/typesetters who do a lot of work for little return making manga accessible for an english speaking audience (degenerate yaoi manga, but still).

The emovamp trend has definitely contributed to a certain 'type' of man in pop culture which inspires a lot of these FTM girls, though. Shows liek Supernatural and media like Twilight couldn't exist without Anne Rice's work.
That's why D from Vampire Hunter D is the superior emo vamp.
 
"Gender Identity" isn't some Gnostic gift delivered unto each little boy or girl; it mostly doesn't exist, at best it has a nominal existence in the sense that you can say "I am a boy," but this denotes nothing deeper than some ordinary motivation to say that utterance.
Except that it has become a Gnostic gift of sorts. The language of gender identity and "authentic selves" is strikingly similar to the scriptural notions of revelation and the soul. Like the soul, the authentic self can't be measured or quantified, it can only be saved or lost. Like revelation, gender identity provides a truth and certainty beyond skepticism and doubt. All these things need regular upkeep through prayer and faith. The Trans Day of Visibility is I think best understood as a kind of liturgy: "a communal response to and participation in the sacred through activities reflecting praise, thanksgiving, remembrance, supplication or repentance".

All things considered troonery has become a religion masking as a civil rights movement, which allows it to neatly sidestep the protections afforded by the separation of Church and State. But it is about as fierce in its prosecution of apostates and unbelievers as the Spanish Inquisition, or the Reformist iconoclasts, or fundamentalist Islam. It is not surprising, I think, that the rise in troonery corresponds to a decline in traditional religiosity.
 
Nah, that's on them and it only came later. Anne Rice is pretty terrible, but I enjoyed some good ol' emovamp slash fiction and Tom Cruise in a wig being fujobaity back in the day. Nothing wrong with it as long as you keep it in your head or on your livejournal.

I really don't understand why fujos did a turn into troonism. It seemed to happen at the same time that everything was deemed 'problematic'. At least the early fujos knew what they were making - porn and lewds for young women. Not self-mutilation and making everything as vanilla softboy as possible.
They were convinced that by trooning out they could hook up with Hot Gay Guiz. It isn’t true, of course, but they think it is.

@Obreon, there’s not so neat a divide. There’s four reasons FTMs troon out: 1. being a lesbian and dealing with homophobia, 2. being an awkward autistic girl and struggling with gender norms, 3. having been sexually abused, and 4. being a fujoshi. Any of these can exist in combination with each other, yes, even 1. and 4.

That having been said, a good way to distinguish between 1. and those who aren’t is whining about the limits of male gender expression. Butch lesbians maybe have earrings but they don’t like makeup, they don’t want to wear dresses, etc. If you see an FTM saying ‘why can’t guys wear makeup why are people judging me for being an FTM who wears dresses’, that’s a good sign they’re a trooned out faghag. I don’t have screenshots but I seriously saw an FTM saying they couldn’t handle not wearing tight jeans. Very few straight women are naturally butch and trying to make themselves be butch all of the time is uncomfortable for them, especially when their brain is telling them to attract a man.
If you see an FTM wearing lolita, that’s an autist (and potentially also someone who was sexually abused). It’s a Japanese fashion subculture based off 19th century Western porcelain dolls. It’s really expensive. Also, it’s feminine but not sexual.
 
I really don't understand why fujos did a turn into troonism. It seemed to happen at the same time that everything was deemed 'problematic'. At least the early fujos knew what they were making - porn and lewds for young women. Not self-mutilation and making everything as vanilla softboy as possible.
About fujos, I've read an interview with the director of June, a (now closed if I'm not mistaken) Japanese magazine that contributed a lot to the development of the yaoi culture in the 70s. He said that, in his opinion, girls like yaoi because it allows them to see and 'experiment' with romantic relationships that are completely equal, since the partners are both male.

He also said that this interest for yaoi usually waned as the young women matured. In his words: "We had authors who wrote beautiful things, then they stopped abruptly because they didn't feel the need to write anymore". Absolutely normal: the more you grow the more adult life, with all its responsibilities, demands your time and energy, and begins to give you pain but also satisfactions and, above all, real romantic relationships. In theory, you shouldn't have the time or the need to fantasize about being rammed by a handsome gay male.

This interview was released in the 90s, now the situation is changed: porn is easily accessible and girls can see the way are women exploited and their bodies fetishized; their boyfriends, often encouraged by porn, may ask them to perform painful or humiliating sexual acts, current technology allows it to be registered in HD and shared with thousands people in a few seconds. So there are people who believe that this "I'm a soft gay boy uwu" is an escape from a kind of relationship (male/female) that is perceived as unbalanced and potentially abusive. I've also seen fujos insisting that gay love is 'purer' than the het one.

So probably a lot of them want to be gay males because they think that in a relationship between two men there is less risk that one of the partners will abuse the other, since it's women who are more often victims of abuse. The problem is they aren't men and they'll never be.
 
About fujos, I've read an interview with the director of June, a (now closed if I'm not mistaken) Japanese magazine that contributed a lot to the development of the yaoi culture in the 70s. He said that, in his opinion, girls like yaoi because it allows them to see and 'experiment' with romantic relationships that are completely equal, since the partners are both male.

He also said that this interest for yaoi usually waned as the young women matured. In his words: "We had authors who wrote beautiful things, then they stopped abruptly because they didn't feel the need to write anymore". Absolutely normal: the more you grow the more adult life, with all its responsibilities, demands your time and energy, and begins to give you pain but also satisfactions and, above all, real romantic relationships. In theory, you shouldn't have the time or the need to fantasize about being rammed by a handsome gay male.

This interview was released in the 90s, now the situation is changed: porn is easily accessible and girls can see the way are women exploited and their bodies fetishized; their boyfriends, often encouraged by porn, may ask them to perform painful or humiliating sexual acts, current technology allows it to be registered in HD and shared with thousands people in a few seconds. So there are people who believe that this "I'm a soft gay boy uwu" is an escape from a kind of relationship (male/female) that is perceived as unbalanced and potentially abusive. I've also seen fujos insisting that gay love is 'purer' than the het one.

So probably a lot of them want to be gay males because they think that in a relationship between two men there is less risk that one of the partners will abuse the other, since it's women who are more often victims of abuse. The problem is they aren't men and they'll never be.
Also, a lot of them, like AGPs, are not attractive enough to get the guys they want.
 
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If only half of these Grifters and Trenders would be like HSTS Christine McConnel (New Vid yesterday)

I mean towards the end that table looks gaudy as fuck to me, however "She" puts a lot of effort into her presentation and has amassed quite a few practical skills that most Millenials and Zoomers are total unaware of that they exist if you were to show them.
The voice is kind of unnerving though, really wonder if she drops it a pitch when she is alone, like Al Bundy sticking his hands down his pants as he flops on the couch.
 
I can't remember who it was, but some black commentator on youtube (possibly youngrippa, maybe someone else) made a point that black men in media are often portrayed as being emasculated and/or diminished in some way, if they're not playing the villain (which is a whole different story.) Thinking about it... they're right. If you look at the bigger franchises: Rhodey and Falcon from Avengers are both support characters who are clearly secondary to the white guys who they take over from. The black guy in Star Wars is just some dumbass who doesn't do anything and runs around after Rey like a bitch. The only important black dude in GoT was castrated. Crawford in Hannibal was played by badass Laurence Fishburne, and yet he was a total bitch and an asshole who was unable to satisfy his wife or do his job properly. In cartoons: There are no black male characters in Stephen Universe except a few gimmick characters. Non-white male characters in other cartoons are often some variation of brown, but never straight up black. Why? Is it because brown is more universal? Less intimidating?

In TV shows which aren't aimed primarily at black people, the black guy is almost always the dumb sidekick or nerdy friend, rarely the main character. I can't actually think of any leading male black characters in popular media from the last 10 years who are genuinely cool or interesting except maybe Miles Morales. Where are all the black action heroes?

With all the talk about black trans life and poc qweer youth, I wonder if some young black men (particularly gay men) might see trooning out as the way to get the compassion and empathy which they don't get in normal life. I guess the gay ones go trans and the straight ones join gangs.

Isn't it funny how black men are primarily the victims of the broken race dynamics in the US, and yet beyond their names and faces being splashed across posters and scribbled on municipal buildings, they barely get any attention? Everyone talks about George Floyd, but no one talks about how he got to the point in his life where he was a felon high on fentanyl and meth and whatever else they found, buying cigaretes with fake money? No one cares about black men until they're dead, especially not these poc activists and advocated who come out of the woodwork every time some poor black guy with a criminal record and no prospects living in a slum at the bottom of life's shitheap gets killed by an undertrained and overarmed cop.
A bit late, but Fillmore, Afro Samurai, Green Lantern from the justice league cartoons, Cyborg from teen titans all immediately came to mind. Afro samurai might be targeted towards a black audience, but I've only ever met hipsters and weebs who knew of it.

Not that what you said isn't a cliche, (danny phantom and neds declassified both had the nerdy black friend thing.) I think there is just less black representation in media not aimed at black audiences so you have to dig a little to find stuff.
 
If only half of these Grifters and Trenders would be like HSTS Christine McConnel (New Vid yesterday)

I mean towards the end that table looks gaudy as fuck to me, however "She" puts a lot of effort into her presentation and has amassed quite a few practical skills that most Millenials and Zoomers are total unaware of that they exist if you were to show them.
The voice is kind of unnerving though, really wonder if she drops it a pitch when she is alone, like Al Bundy sticking his hands down his pants as he flops on the couch.
I used to love seeing Christine's stuff over the years. I always thought she was a bit odd looking, but never really thought twice about it because I was more interested in the work. Then, a few years later I found out from a fellow kiwi that Christine was trans and suddenly it all clicked.

But that voice, I think if I had heard that before it would have tipped me off. Maybe. Years ago, I was blissfully unaware of troonery.
 
Surprise surprise, a hideous unfortunately unattractive FTM. I doubt she'll find life as a guy any easier, though.

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Did her parents meet at a family reunion?
 
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