7/23 Court Date

[Male Idiot]

How much risk would you get for releasing the footage? I mean, what you did was completely legal I hope?

 

[MasterDisaster]

I think it's been covered well enough not to keep asking Rammspieler to release the entire thing; yes, what he did was legal. The point is the he's being tactful and professional about it by not planting a seed that could very well grow into a giant fucking thorn bush up our asses. He's already mentioned that what he hasn't shown isn't even lulz-worthy or worth the time. The fact that he went and did this in the first place should be good enough for everyone here, right? Like yawning sneasel said, no shit is too minor but just because you put peanut butter on your balls doesn't mean the dog won't bite.

 

[The Joker]

This is the most likely explanation. Either way, I guess now that Chris knows my face and I'm a confirmed twoll, I have to come up with a troll persona for myself. Marvin has the pickle suit, Clyde Cash is a guido. Who knows. Maybe I'll even get my own minor saga?

Man in the kiwi suit!
Just take random videos of yourself in CWC locations pecking at the ground in a menacing fashion.

 

[Ron_Swanson]

just post the butt

Mayor Chandler Quimby said it himself, that could be anyone's butt

 

[Rammspieler]

Just to clarify, was it confirmed that she isn't a journalist, or was it merely confirmed that she wasn't the journalist @Lipitor encountered last time?

I's been confirmed that she ISN'T the journalist he encountered. At least not the same one.

 

[AnOminous]

I's been confirmed that she ISN'T the journalist he encountered. At least not the same one.

If she's some kind of part of the "system," there is zero to be gained getting upset by her activities or giving her any kind of excuse to try to claim persecution of her client, or whatever Chris is to her.

Doesn't mean court watchers should stop doing the perfectly legal things they're doing. Just no point getting in direct confrontations over it.

As for pictures/video if someone is trying to interpose themselves, one method if you have two people is to let them interfere with the most obvious person taking video. Meanwhile, have a second person at a safe distance, preferably with the better camera, getting video of the whole thing.

The second person can depart if anything ugly happens after getting video. This means first, you actually get the video you wanted and second, if some legal situation does arise out of it, you have video showing your side and that you were acting reasonably while the other person flipped their shit, or whatever they did.

Obviously don't be the person flipping your shit or you just got video of yourself flipping your shit and incriminated yourself.

 

[asperhes]

I's been confirmed that she ISN'T the journalist he encountered. At least not the same one.

The woman in the video isn't acting like a journalist at all. She's too invested in Chris's shit. I just can't believe that there could be a second journalist trying to write a story about Chris.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

If she's some kind of part of the "system," there is zero to be gained getting upset by her activities or giving her any kind of excuse to try to claim persecution of her client, or whatever Chris is to her.

Doesn't mean court watchers should stop doing the perfectly legal things they're doing. Just no point getting in direct confrontations over it.

As for pictures/video if someone is trying to interpose themselves, one method if you have two people is to let them interfere with the most obvious person taking video. Meanwhile, have a second person at a safe distance, preferably with the better camera, getting video of the whole thing.

The second person can depart if anything ugly happens after getting video. This means first, you actually get the video you wanted and second, if some legal situation does arise out of it, you have video showing your side and that you were acting reasonably while the other person flipped their shit, or whatever they did.

Obviously don't be the person flipping your shit or you just got video of yourself flipping your shit and incriminated yourself.

Problem is there isn't always going to be 2 people going. Rammspieler got nobody with him. I believe now that supporters of Chris have began being confrontational that Rammspieler or anyone else alone should record using 2 or more devices, the 2nd being something like his smart phone on his person, in the event that the first gets sabotaged. Just turn it on and leave it running in your pocket whenever legally allowed.

I hate to be pessimistic but if what Rammspieler said was true, then they have already resorted to underhanded tactics like intimidation and lying (because recording in public is legal contrary to what was said) so one should be prepared for it to get worse from this point.

 

[Rammspieler]

Problem is there isn't always going to be 2 people going. Rammspieler got nobody with him. I believe now that supporters of Chris have began being confrontational that Rammspieler or anyone else alone should record using 2 or more devices, the 2nd being something like his smart phone on his person, in the event that the first gets sabotaged. Just turn it on and leave it running in your pocket whenever legally allowed.

I hate to be pessimistic but if what Rammspieler said was true, then they have already resorted to underhanded tactics like intimidation and lying (because recording in public is legal contrary to what was said) so one should be prepared for it to get worse from this point.

That is true and (to me, maybe lawspergs will differ) is quite disturbing to think that a legal professional, especially a PD, will go to such lengths as to actually lie and intimidate, just to protect their client. One thing is defending and protecting their client, but going that far, I would only expect that from paid, high end and perhaps somewhat shifty criminal defense lawyers.

 

[Thetan]

Problem is there isn't always going to be 2 people going. Rammspieler got nobody with him. I believe now that supporters of Chris have began being confrontational that Rammspieler or anyone else alone should record using 2 or more devices, the 2nd being something like his smart phone on his person, in the event that the first gets sabotaged. Just turn it on and leave it running in your pocket whenever legally allowed.

I hate to be pessimistic but if what Rammspieler said was true, then they have already resorted to underhanded tactics like intimidation and lying (because recording in public is legal contrary to what was said) so one should be prepared for it to get worse from this point.

Not to sound overly paranoid here, buy anyone filming might want to take a few small steps to alter their appearance slightly. Nothing too crazy: for example, a hat or a bandanna and a pair of sunglasses.

 

[Muscle Bra]

And if I could make a suggestion as to what kind of sunglasses to wear...

 

[Master Miller]

pair of sunglasses.

I can very much support the use of sunglasses.

From what I've read, in Virginia, it's not illegal to record something in a state court. However, it seems that it's at the judge's discretion whether to allow it or not. Cases of a sexual nature or involves minors are generally a no-go, but I think the rest are fair game, although that's just what the armchair lawyer in me read online.

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/virginia-recording-law

 

[Muscle Bra]

And that's why armchair lawyers aren't licensed to practice law...

If you keep reading, you will see the website you reviewed points you toward some actual Virginia statutes: http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/19.2-266/

Among other conditions:

• A court may solely in its discretion permit the taking of photographs in the courtroom during the progress of judicial proceedings and the broadcasting of judicial proceedings by radio or television and the use of electronic or photographic means for the perpetuation of the record or parts thereof in criminal and in civil cases, but only in accordance with the rules set forth hereunder.
  
• The Virginia Association of Broadcasters and the Virginia Press Association may designate one person to represent the television media, one person to represent the radio broadcasters, and one person to represent still photographers in each jurisdiction in which electronic media and still photographic coverage is desired.

If you want to walk into court with an iPhone and a pair of sunglasses and inform the judge you are representing digital media and are recording the trial for some Australian farming website, be my guest.

 

[Master Miller]

And that's why armchair lawyers aren't licensed to practice law...

If you keep reading, you will see the website you reviewed points you toward some actual Virginia statutes: http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/19.2-266/

My armchair is probably better suited for other purposes, thanks for the clarification.

 

[ON 190]

recording the trial for some Australian farming website

That might bewilder the judge enough for him to stutter "Y-yes? Sure...?"

 

[AnOminous]

And that's why armchair lawyers aren't licensed to practice law...

If you keep reading, you will see the website you reviewed points you toward some actual Virginia statutes: http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/19.2-266/

Among other conditions:

• A court may solely in its discretion permit the taking of photographs in the courtroom during the progress of judicial proceedings and the broadcasting of judicial proceedings by radio or television and the use of electronic or photographic means for the perpetuation of the record or parts thereof in criminal and in civil cases, but only in accordance with the rules set forth hereunder.

Note: that in its sole discretion part means you'd best have a good reason and have made the request in advance. Just showing up and starting recording is going to get you escorted to the door in most places, at best.

Usually, there are specific procedures to be followed, and it's best to pursue such a thing through counsel, actually be a recognized media group, and be covering something that is actually of public interest.

The routine preliminary hearing of a random spastic doesn't qualify and neither does this website.

I could imagine a situation where a lolcow trial would be worthy enough of public notice that it might justify trying to get permission to take video or record it, but this isn't it.

Most judges just don't want to be bothered with it. There's usually at least an audio recording made of routine hearings like this, but sometimes not even that. They also generally dispose of that kind of thing as space for keeping tapes sitting around is limited, since the only time they'd actually be transcribed is in the rare situation someone actually appeals something that happened at a preliminary hearing.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

That is true and (to me, maybe lawspergs will differ) is quite disturbing to think that a legal professional, especially a PD, will go to such lengths as to actually lie and intimidate, just to protect their client. One thing is defending and protecting their client, but going that far, I would only expect that from paid, high end and perhaps somewhat shifty criminal defense lawyers.

My guess is that she's a social worker or some kind of advocate for people with mental illness and/or cognitive disabilities, just based on her clothing, her scoldy voice, and her solicitousness with helping Barb into the car.

 

[Thetan]

My guess is that she's a social worker or some kind of advocate for people with mental illness and/or cognitive disabilities, just based on her clothing, her scoldy voice, and her solicitousness with helping Barb into the car.

Your remark has me wondering if Chris PD has arranged for some sort of tard wrangling team for Chris, to ensure that he keeps in line. We know there's at least one new player on the scene, there may be more that we're unaware of.

Otherwise, either Chris has been on his best behavior (despite blarms) or there has been an incident or two we just haven't heard about yet.

 

[GS 281]

I just have to wonder what it is that they think people do when it comes to Chris. Do they think that people extort him? Beat him? Steal from him? If people are coming from vast distances to see Chris in his natural habitat, perhaps they would be better served to investigate how it is that Chris has solicited so much attention. It wasn't at random, and there are plenty of autistic people in the world. Why him? Shaming us for following him is the easy way out. Perhaps these new handlers should accept the situation is what it is right now because if she didn't confront Rammspieler this thread likely wouldn't be 30 pages and there would be less attention drawn to Chris. If Chris didn't rely on his infamy to hock medallions, pictures and amiibos, then there wouldn't be about 7 other threads here. If Chris didn't attack some guy over blue arms there wouldn't be a number of other threads and people would care much less about the blarms crusade. When Chris and anyone around Chris makes a scene and draws attention to themselves there is greater engagement in the Chris story. She thinks she shamed Rammspieler and therefore others will be afraid to show up next time. Now others are curious about who she is and what her role with OPL may be, as any intelligent person would realize. Good job, lady. There will probably be more Kiwis showing up in October just to investigate what all is going on.

 

[Ron_Swanson]

My guess is that she's a social worker or some kind of advocate for people with mental illness and/or cognitive disabilities, just based on her clothing, her scoldy voice, and her solicitousness with helping Barb into the car.

I work with social workers (and psychologists, and doctors) multiple times per day on a daily basis. I'm not saying I could tell a person's profession from a couple seconds of Bigfoot-style shakycam video, buuuuuuut, where is everyone seeing this supposedly unreleased footage

Edit so my post has a little more content, I wonder why you'd wear a red dress to a thing like that, but maybe it's a perfectly valid choice of attire for an event where it's often good to look your best, even though red is kind of an interesting color if you ponder the psychology behind choosing to wear it. One would need to see the dress. No poop is too minor!