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There are people in the world that need to realize that if they get the vaccine* they are immune to the illness. At that point, someone not wearing a mask isn't going to hurt them, so they lose their right to bitch about it. How many Branch Covidians want to give up their Fauci-given right to throw tantrums over the unmasked?

*assuming the vaccines work as intended
Schrodinger's Virus: Simultaneously beaten by the vaccine but also still spreading so everyone needs to mask up.
 
Per a press conference yesterday, Alabama does plan to move forward with lifting the mask mandate Friday afternoon. However, MawMaw (which I mean in a good way) said that businesses can still determine their own policies regarding masks and that we are still encouraged to wear them.

I don't really like this. I'd rather be told we "have" to or we don't have to period. I'm not the pushover type but I really don't want to have to deal with getting attacked by the mask gestapo if I dare to not wear a mask into a coffee shop or Walmart. My stepdad works in a grocery store and yesterday he told me that a cashier was talking to another worker like 20 feet away from where he was, and the cashier's mask was slightly past his nose, and a customer near my stepdad flipped their shit because the cashier's mask was down. It's April 2021 and people are still like this.

I was also made to stand outside of a cell phone shop for over an hour in the heat yesterday because muh capacity.
 
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Per a press conference yesterday, Alabama does plan to move forward with lifting the mask mandate Friday afternoon. However, MawMaw (which I mean in a good way) said that businesses can still determine their own policies regarding masks and that we are still encouraged to wear them.

I don't really like this. I'd rather be told we "have" to or we don't have to period. I'm not the pushover type but I really don't want to have to deal with getting attacked by the mask gestapo if I dare to not wear a mask into a coffee shop or Walmart. My stepdad works in a grocery store and yesterday he told me that a cashier was talking to another worker like 20 feet away from where he was, and the cashier's mask was slightly past his nose, and a customer near my stepdad flipped their shit because the cashier's mask was down. It's April 2021 and people are still like this.

I was also made to stand outside of a cell phone shop for over an hour in the heat yesterday because muh capacity.
Start wearing a balaclava.
 
Why hasn't the product placement troll been thread banned yet?

"LOL SCARED OF A NEEDLE!" We've seen that particular retardation enough imo.

If I were a janny I'd ban everyone who disagreed with me.
So in other words you want to enforce a mask mandate against me and create a safe space.

Also sorry the truth gets to you, but do try to stay on topic, this thread is about covid not any one poster.
 
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One in three COVID-19 survivors diagnosed with brain or mental health disorder within 6 months of infection, study finds
A massive study conducted during the pandemic estimates 1 in 3 COVID-19 survivors were diagnosed with a neurological or psychiatric condition within six months of infection.

The study, published Tuesday in the peer-reviewed journal The Lancet Psychiatry, used more than 230,000 electronic health records of COVID-19 patients mostly in the U.S. looking at 14 different brain and mental health disorders.

Thirty-four percent of survivors were diagnosed with at least one of these conditions, with 13% of these people being their first recorded neurological or psychiatric diagnosis. Mental health diagnoses were most common among patients, with 17% diagnosed with anxiety and 14% diagnosed with a mood disorder.

Although neurological diagnoses were more uncommon, they were more prevalent in patients who had been seriously ill during a COVID-19 infection. For example, 7% of patients who were admitted to intensive care had a stroke and 2% were diagnosed with dementia.

“It shows the toll that COVID takes is not just with the (disease itself), but also with the aftermath of the condition, which can be extremely complicated, involving not only the brain but other organs in the body as well,” said Dr. William Li, president and medical director of the Angiogenesis Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to the study of abnormal blood vessel growth.


Study authors also looked at about 100,000 flu patients and more than 230,000 patients diagnosed with a respiratory tract infection over the same time period and found neurological and psychiatric diagnoses were more common in COVID-19 patients.

There was a 44% greater risk of brain or mental health disorder diagnoses after COVID-19 than after the flu, and a 16% greater risk than with respiratory tract infections, according to the study.

It is possible coronavirus infection could lead to anxiety or depression, as these conditions have been associated with inflammation typically seen in COVID-19, said Julie Walsh-Messinger, assistant professor in the department of psychology at the University of Dayton. But these psychiatric disorders also could stem from the stresses of the pandemic itself.

“We’re seeing higher rates of depression and anxiety across the board regardless of (COVID-19 infection) or not,” she said. “It’s hard to tease apart how much of it is general stress-induced anxiety or depression because of lack of ability to socialize, lack of ability to engage in activities that one normally enjoys, fear about the future and how much of it is specific to the disease progress.”

Even so, the study is an important first step in what clinicians can expect from their patients who have recovered from COVID-19, she added.



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The size of the study also demonstrates how the long-term effects of COVID-19 can impact a country’s health care system even after the disease is gone, said lead author Paul Harrison, a professor at the University of Oxford in the U.K.

“Although the individual risks for most disorders are small, the effect across the whole population may be substantial for health and social care systems due to the scale of the pandemic,” he said. “Health care systems need to be resourced to deal with the anticipated need.”

And with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reporting about 60,000 new COVID-19 cases per day, the need for health care services post-COVID-19 infection could escalate, said Noah Greenspan, a cardiopulmonary physical therapist and founder of the Pulmonary Wellness Foundation in New York City.

“Even if at this moment right now we were to shut off the valve and nobody would ever get infected with COVID, there are still whole groups of people who have already been affected,” he said. “It’s like a fire has been in our house and even if the fire is out and we don’t have any new damage, we have to deal with this progression of syndrome people are experiencing for years to come.”

Follow Adrianna Rodriguez on Twitter: @AdriannaUSAT.

Health and patient safety coverage at USA TODAY is made possible in part by a grant from the Masimo Foundation for Ethics, Innovation and Competition in Healthcare. The Masimo Foundation does not provide editorial input.


So much for that just a flu lie people still like to push, Remember to be smart and look after yourself
 
Just negrate his childish "no u!" posts and move on.
These types of trolls who are sure the science* is on their side are expecting dire consequences from our heathen casual attitudes any day now. Amazing that they've persisted an entire year while staying at the same level of panic and completely buying into the narrative. I wonder what kind of mental gymnastics they'll come up with in a month or two when all of these open states are fine.

Hell, Texas is already there, has it been a month since they opened? Must feel like sand slipping through their fingers and yet they can't understand why and grip even tighter.

Why aren't the evil republicans dying en masse by now! WHY!!!! Faucci why!!!!!
-seething masses coping in blue hellholes probably

I get it. If I wasted a year of my life and were prepping to add another year to that I'd be coping hard too.
 
These types of trolls who are sure the science* is on their side are expecting dire consequences from our heathen casual attitudes any day now. Amazing that they've persisted an entire year while staying at the same level of panic and completely buying into the narrative. I wonder what kind of mental gymnastics they'll come up with in a month or two when all of these open states are fine.

Hell, Texas is already there, has it been a month since they opened? Must feel like sand slipping through their fingers and yet they can't understand why and grip even tighter.

Why aren't the evil republicans dying en masse by now! WHY!!!! Faucci why!!!!!
-seething masses coping in blue hellholes probably

I get it. If I wasted a year of my life and were prepping to add another year to that I'd be coping hard too.
I agree, shouldn't let covid nor idiots that have no will to survive take away time in your life, have a good time enjoy life, it's already too short. But don't be an idiot and do everything you reasonably can to minimise the risk while living your life , speaking of which.

Covid-19 deaths in England and Wales down by 92% from second wave peak​


Nice to see the vax is working well in the UK, hope to see more results like that in other counties soon
 
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One in three COVID-19 survivors diagnosed with brain or mental health disorder within 6 months of infection, study finds

That explains the increase of tard behaviour on the internet /sneed

It's not just the infected that are having psych issues.
Stress from fear mongering press, soviet style lockdowns and general mania are affecting a big chunk of general population.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00175-z
COVID’s mental-health toll: how scientists are tracking a surge in depression
Researchers are using huge data sets to link changes in mental health to coronavirus-response measures.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-54418913

Coronavirus: How lockdown has affected mental health


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7444649/

Impact of COVID-19 and lockdown on mental health of children and adolescents: A narrative review with recommendations


BTW the 1968 H3N2 flu pandemic killed about 1-4 million people (they aren't sure as most people didn't give much of a shit back then), with about half the current world population.

And do I have to mention the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic numbers?

So Covid19 sits a close third place, and the flu has been shown to be worse than this virus.

I think the effects of media and governments have done more damage than the virus itself.
 
Per a press conference yesterday, Alabama does plan to move forward with lifting the mask mandate Friday afternoon. However, MawMaw (which I mean in a good way) said that businesses can still determine their own policies regarding masks and that we are still encouraged to wear them.

I don't really like this. I'd rather be told we "have" to or we don't have to period. I'm not the pushover type but I really don't want to have to deal with getting attacked by the mask gestapo if I dare to not wear a mask into a coffee shop or Walmart. My stepdad works in a grocery store and yesterday he told me that a cashier was talking to another worker like 20 feet away from where he was, and the cashier's mask was slightly past his nose, and a customer near my stepdad flipped their shit because the cashier's mask was down. It's April 2021 and people are still like this.

I was also made to stand outside of a cell phone shop for over an hour in the heat yesterday because muh capacity.
Well, as a neighbor over in Mississippi, I can say that things have certainly gotten better after our mandates were rescinded. There are still a lot of people masking up for no reason, but that number is decreasing as I go out and about. Businesses generally still require their employees to wear masks (especially chain restaurants or other corporations), and there's still signage requesting you wear one, but I haven't had someone get onto me to wear one for a good couple weeks now, aside from the theaters which still won't let you in the lobby without one (yet it's totally fine to remove them once you're seated, because a few minutes in the lobby is way more dangerous than two hours in the theater).

I get it, I don't like to be confrontational either, but I feel that a lot of people are just waiting for someone else to be the first one to drop the charade before they feel comfortable doing it too. I keep a mask in my pocket just in case ("oh I must have forgotten haha my bad"), but I've had no real issues with Branch Covidians screeching at me about it. I think most employees are of the mindset that "I don't get paid enough to deal with this" and would rather just let it go. Maybe I'm just lucky not to have run into any of the paranoid Karens out there.

Don't expect to see things change overnight, the programming has set in severely for a lot of people and it'll take time to break it. But it will get better.
 
One in three COVID-19 survivors diagnosed with brain or mental health disorder within 6 months of infection, study finds
A massive study conducted during the pandemic estimates 1 in 3 COVID-19 survivors were diagnosed with a neurological or psychiatric condition within six months of infection.

The study, published Tuesday in the peer-reviewed journal The Lancet Psychiatry, used more than 230,000 electronic health records of COVID-19 patients mostly in the U.S. looking at 14 different brain and mental health disorders.

Thirty-four percent of survivors were diagnosed with at least one of these conditions, with 13% of these people being their first recorded neurological or psychiatric diagnosis. Mental health diagnoses were most common among patients, with 17% diagnosed with anxiety and 14% diagnosed with a mood disorder.

Although neurological diagnoses were more uncommon, they were more prevalent in patients who had been seriously ill during a COVID-19 infection. For example, 7% of patients who were admitted to intensive care had a stroke and 2% were diagnosed with dementia.

“It shows the toll that COVID takes is not just with the (disease itself), but also with the aftermath of the condition, which can be extremely complicated, involving not only the brain but other organs in the body as well,” said Dr. William Li, president and medical director of the Angiogenesis Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to the study of abnormal blood vessel growth.


Study authors also looked at about 100,000 flu patients and more than 230,000 patients diagnosed with a respiratory tract infection over the same time period and found neurological and psychiatric diagnoses were more common in COVID-19 patients.

There was a 44% greater risk of brain or mental health disorder diagnoses after COVID-19 than after the flu, and a 16% greater risk than with respiratory tract infections, according to the study.

It is possible coronavirus infection could lead to anxiety or depression, as these conditions have been associated with inflammation typically seen in COVID-19, said Julie Walsh-Messinger, assistant professor in the department of psychology at the University of Dayton. But these psychiatric disorders also could stem from the stresses of the pandemic itself.

“We’re seeing higher rates of depression and anxiety across the board regardless of (COVID-19 infection) or not,” she said. “It’s hard to tease apart how much of it is general stress-induced anxiety or depression because of lack of ability to socialize, lack of ability to engage in activities that one normally enjoys, fear about the future and how much of it is specific to the disease progress.”

Even so, the study is an important first step in what clinicians can expect from their patients who have recovered from COVID-19, she added.



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The size of the study also demonstrates how the long-term effects of COVID-19 can impact a country’s health care system even after the disease is gone, said lead author Paul Harrison, a professor at the University of Oxford in the U.K.

“Although the individual risks for most disorders are small, the effect across the whole population may be substantial for health and social care systems due to the scale of the pandemic,” he said. “Health care systems need to be resourced to deal with the anticipated need.”

And with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reporting about 60,000 new COVID-19 cases per day, the need for health care services post-COVID-19 infection could escalate, said Noah Greenspan, a cardiopulmonary physical therapist and founder of the Pulmonary Wellness Foundation in New York City.

“Even if at this moment right now we were to shut off the valve and nobody would ever get infected with COVID, there are still whole groups of people who have already been affected,” he said. “It’s like a fire has been in our house and even if the fire is out and we don’t have any new damage, we have to deal with this progression of syndrome people are experiencing for years to come.”

Follow Adrianna Rodriguez on Twitter: @AdriannaUSAT.

Health and patient safety coverage at USA TODAY is made possible in part by a grant from the Masimo Foundation for Ethics, Innovation and Competition in Healthcare. The Masimo Foundation does not provide editorial input.


So much for that just a flu lie people still like to push, Remember to be smart and look after yourself
If you look at the actual study, most of the people suffering most of these issues are over 60, with different cohorts having mean ages between 55 and 69. A mean isn't all that useful, but given the upper bounds of the human lifespan, it tells you that a significant proprtion of the records used in this study are for people well over 70. All of their outcomes skew older.

So no shit they're showing a lot of co-morbidities like dementia, stroke, and anxiety. They're fucking old.
 
Leaf under Doug Ford's heel here, just wanted to say that I got an emergency alert on my phone a couple hours ago, telling me to "Stay Home, Save Lives," and that leaving my home for reasons other than work, food, exercise, or vaccine is forbidden. So basically nothing's changed, but they still felt the need to blast me with this fucking alert, and I pray that the day of the rake comes soon
 
Why hasn't the product placement troll been thread banned yet?

"LOL SCARED OF A NEEDLE!" We've seen that particular retardation enough imo.

If I were a janny I'd ban everyone who disagreed with me.
Same reason as the guy who lies about being a biologist, despite not knowing basic concepts of biology that are taught in high school, doesn't get banned: it's a free speech board
 
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