Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

This guy is a weasel and an opportunist. He will have his own thread eventually, but I was convinced his aesthetic sensibilities were on point. I was wrong. I dislike him even more now that I've read this comment.

EDIT: in case you wonder how does this have something to do with philosophy troon; the comment is from the monstrosity Olly posted recently.

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Just catching up on the thread and the account's gone 🤔 What was this?
A live stream between Theryn Meyer and Hontrapoints which shows the origins of the troon love triangle which set Ollie's decent into 'Abbie' in motion.

Meyer was a transwoman who used to be very involved in the contemporary Canadian gender debate, previously having testified in front of the Canadian parliament in favor of Jordan Peterson's opposition to compelled gendered speech legislation in 2017. Meyer has their own thread, but the relevant context of the now-defunct link was that it was from a stream in 2018 and featured Meyer and Hontra getting drunk on a couch after a discussion in Vancouver, Canada in 2018 (an event which was previously pitched as a in-person debate between Blaire White and Hontra, before Blaire bailed). Meyer at the time was engaged to be married to a natal male who helped to organize the event in his role as a member of the UBC Free Speech Club, however shortly after Hontra's visit, Meyer would dissolve the engagement, despite years of dating. The stream, which I think @Nykysnottrans has archived in the Contra thread, depicts the two troons flirting intensely with each other, and features Contra looking especially amorous towards his newfound object of desire. Meyer would go on to help Nyk with his projects, frequently flying down to Nyk's place in Baltimore to help with scripts and filming. It seemed that their working relationship was very strong, and at one point Meyer was undoubtedly Nyk's right hand man.

Eventually, it is alleged that Nyk professed his love to Theyrn, and proposed a transbian relationship, but he would be cruelly rejected by "Joanne," who shunned his love in favor of a "non-binary" genetic female who Theryn started dating shortly after. This was the basis of the Contrapoints Shame video.

How does this involve Abighoul?

Ollie was brought up during the 2018 stream, and both trooons gushed over his "charming Britbong vibe," before Nyk sheepishly admitted that he had a girlfriend. It is believed by many Kiwis that Nyk was in regular contact with Ollie at this point, and had consulted with him numerous times on video production. It is alleged that Nyk helped contribute to the rift which drove Ollie and his ex gf apart, which led up to Ollie becoming a battered wife when his ex supposedly hit him. Months after this event, Nyk began traveling to the UK to visit Ollie, and he is likely the "Chad" who he references in his Shame video as his "straight girl experimentation" relationship. When Nyk eventually left Ollie to pursue transbian love with Theryn, it is believed that Ollie took the chance to come out, first as bisexual, and then as a transwoman.
 
This guy is a weasel and an opportunist. He will have his own thread eventually, but I was convinced his aesthetic sensibilities were on point. I was wrong. I dislike him even more now that I've read this comment.

EDIT: in case you wonder how does this have something to do with philosophy troon; the comment is from the monstrosity Olly posted recently.

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He's really influential. I've heard channels like Vaush, Smokey Glow (Woke make up drama death fat) and all the commentary channels gush over him.

Anyways, I will now say that I withdraw my previous statement that Olly looks like an odd-looking woman, he doesn't pass.
 
Peterson is still very good for algorithm, lots of people watch his stuff to date. His last upload on Jordy is his 3d most popular video, so I'm pretty sure Abighoul just saw that Peterson's new book coming out and saw an opportunity for easy bucks. He didn't even have anything of substance to say on the book itself. Having watched it I have 0 idea what that book was even about - he spent good part of the first half rambling about gender... which is ok, I get it you're troon now Ollie.

His "womanhood" is pretty hilarious tho. People already mentioned the voice, my favorite part of the video was watching him try to not fall while walking on high heels (around 1 minute in). He clearly can't do it so he has to hold his hands outstretched to balance, but he tries to make it seem elegant which is of course a clown show with those manhands

Did he seriously have to "wear heavy jackets" in his videos to "hide his breasts"? He looks about as flat as an ironing board in this new video.
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They probably call their hormones induced gynecomastia boobs. If you ever saw mantits that's what Ollie most definitely has

Also someone's developing megalomania of sorts:
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This guy is a weasel and an opportunist. He will have his own thread eventually, but I was convinced his aesthetic sensibilities were on point. I was wrong. I dislike him even more now that I've read this comment.

EDIT: in case you wonder how does this have something to do with philosophy troon; the comment is from the monstrosity Olly posted recently.

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Huh - I was wondering if he was going to show up on KF at some point but never would have expected it to be on this thread. I used to like him a lot (he did some non-commentary videos that were pretty smart and mature considering he's like 20 or something) but lately he seems to have been getting in with the breadtube crowd and drifting more and more into bland political stuff that's just not interesting. Think he said something very recently about wanting to lay off the drama content and go back to making videos about random shit, so I hope he does.
 
Peterson is still very good for algorithm, lots of people watch his stuff to date. His last upload on Jordy is his 3d most popular video, so I'm pretty sure Abighoul just saw that Peterson's new book coming out and saw an opportunity for easy bucks. He didn't even have anything of substance to say on the book itself. Having watched it I have 0 idea what that book was even about - he spent good part of the first half rambling about gender... which is ok, I get it you're troon now Ollie.

His "womanhood" is pretty hilarious tho. People already mentioned the voice, my favorite part of the video was watching him try to not fall while walking on high heels (around 1 minute in). He clearly can't do it so he has to hold his hands outstretched to balance, but he tries to make it seem elegant which is of course a clown show with those manhands


They probably call their hormones induced gynecomastia boobs. If you ever saw mantits that's what Ollie most definitely has

Also someone's developing megalomania of sorts:
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There's something distinctly british about that poor excuse for dry smarmy humour in Thorne's tweets. That's coming from a bong too.

Also Prince Philip's death, yeah it's over blown and for the majority of people it's not a big deal. For some reason though Thorn makes me feel defensive towards Philip because of how much of a prick she comes across.
 
Also someone's developing megalomania of sorts
I'm genuinely mystified by PT's popularity at this point, and that's not just snark, I mean it literally. I found his voice and delivery grating even when I liked breadtube, but I figured that was just a matter of preference. But he's so nakedly self-centred - I'm sure most big youtubers are at least a bit narcissistic, because you have to be to want to make a living out of performing for millions of fans, but most of them have at least enough self-awareness to make it less... obvious. Isn't the whole draw of this type of 'celebrity' supposed to be that they're relatable and seem like someone you might want to hang out with IRL? Whereas his opinion of himself is so inflated that tweets like this give me second hand embarrassment, and I'm honestly surprised that more people aren't put off by it.

He actually reminds me less of a low-rent Contrapoints than a low-rent Milo Yiannopoulos, but without the humour or subversiveness that Milo had going for him in 2016. When breadtube inevitably fades out over the next few years, I could see him going the same way - continuing to rant into the void about how he's done the world a favour by existing, while a few diehards carry on simping and the rest of his embarrassed ex-fans wonder what they ever saw in him.
 
This guy is a weasel and an opportunist. He will have his own thread eventually, but I was convinced his aesthetic sensibilities were on point. I was wrong. I dislike him even more now that I've read this comment.

EDIT: in case you wonder how does this have something to do with philosophy troon; the comment is from the monstrosity Olly posted recently.

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D'Angelo is one fuck up away from getting eaten alive because he's the big daddy of today's moral fagging commentary community.
Ever since he got big he has been insufferable and his audience is the kind of people that expect commentators to take the right position about flavor of the week drama. I will be honest with you even tho this is going to sound MATI, I can't wait for it to happen.
 
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Yes Abigail, your 'Knickers' definitely not your testes.
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This woman passes less than Mo Salah
contra is like labelled items and olly is like the aldi fake version, the wrapping looks mildly the same but you know its just a cheap knock off.

Also its clear olly has a warped idea of what a woman is or wears, its all just sexualisation. At least contra dresses normal sometimes, you know like women do in everyday life, baggy jumpers, jeans ect women arent always in dress, heals and stockings and they definitely dont wear cheap plastic wigs
 
oh my god just tried to watch the video and laughed the whole time. It made me think of the movie wong foo thanks for everything. At least Patrick Swayze and Wesley Snipes actually tried
Sorry olly no amount of fetishization of femininity is going to hide those man feet and hands or that terrible attempt to walk in heels, at best hes a really bad drag queen

god he even stole Swazyes white feather look who wore it better?
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I'm genuinely mystified by PT's popularity at this point, and that's not just snark, I mean it literally. I found his voice and delivery grating even when I liked breadtube, but I figured that was just a matter of preference. But he's so nakedly self-centred - I'm sure most big youtubers are at least a bit narcissistic, because you have to be to want to make a living out of performing for millions of fans, but most of them have at least enough self-awareness to make it less... obvious. Isn't the whole draw of this type of 'celebrity' supposed to be that they're relatable and seem like someone you might want to hang out with IRL? Whereas his opinion of himself is so inflated that tweets like this give me second hand embarrassment, and I'm honestly surprised that more people aren't put off by it.
Narcissism and self-centredness is completely acceptable nowadays if you call it body-positivity. That's why people aren't put off by it - they see it as a positive.
 
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