US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Dark Edea]

The market doesn’t seem to think these war threats are credible. All time highs again today.

They are probably betting on the Biden Administration getting everyone all scared and then miraculously at the last minute averting conflict by suggesting that the involved parties uphold the Minsk Protocol and Minsk II.

Stunning and brave. And total kabuki theater. Wars have broken out over much less.

 

[potato fan]

The systematic effort of NATO to push Russia out of Europe by placing military bases and missile systems in former Soviet states.

it's not agression, it's those state's will to host NATO bases, its none of Russia's business. Russia has mil bases in other countries too, like in Belarus. Is that an act of agression as well?

NATO's backing of the 2014 coup in Ukraine.

how is that agression? it's Ukraine's business. Was Russia's backing of previous Ukrainian regime an agression?

Petty sanctions against Russia and attempts to push them out of the global community.

yeah after Russia annexed Ukrainian clay, eg. ACTUAL AGRESSION. Russian definition of "agression" is very assymetric it seems.

Russia's major mistake was to not get everything from the Americans in writing after the Cold War.

lol the treaties that were signed contained the smallest, most minute details, you must be silly thinking that they "forgot" or "overlooked" putting "no NATO expansion" in there if it was actually part of agreement.
Also in it's last days Soviet Union was on its knees, shitting it's pants. NATO (or rahter USA) could have had the place destabilised, balkanized and consumed by civil war with minimal effort, and then swoop in and take whatever it wanted, if it really intended to attack. Yet instead they helped stabilize it. So much for NATO just waiting to annex Russia's endless uninhabited permafrost.

 

[Salubrious]

It's not so much what he did as what he represents.
After 8 years of King Nigger and the rise of wokeism they were under the perception that all that stood in the way of realizing their grand dream of a new world order was formalities. It was assumed that the people who were pissed about the obama scandals etc were a small but vocal minority of tea party and old guard Republicans. The 2016 election showed them that while their efforts paid off in Democrat strongholds like california and New York, most of the country rejected it outright. And that notion, the notion that they had greater resistance to their schemes than they imagined, absolutely makes them seethe. And trump was happy to rub their noses in it.

I still think, perhaps with rainbows, that the pendulum ALWAYS swings back the other way (aka we went from the Religious Right to the Woke Left basically making the exact same arguments in a lot of cases), and the 2022 are going to shock a lot of the blue areas. Then we'll get more about how "the country is racist."

 

[Borscht]

Also in it's last days Soviet Union was on its knees, shitting it's pants. NATO (or rahter USA) could have had the place destabilised, balkanized and consumed by civil war with minimal effort, and then swoop in and take whatever it wanted, if it really intended to attack. Yet instead they helped stabilize it.

They did destabilize it (life expectancy plummeted for more than 10 years during the 90', people literally starved), balkanized it (farewell to Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltics and the rest of the Soviet republics) and encouraged a civil war (hello the first and second Chechen wars).

I do not recall any "help" towards "stabilizing" anything, only American "economic advisors" pushing for the most savage laissez-faire capitalist policies possible, the implementation of which spawned the current crop of oligarchs and shaped Russia's political landscape for decades to come, transitioning it to a cleptocratic oligarchy.

 

[jje100010001]

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Probably related to sanctions I bet. US chickened out of sending its navy to Ukraine, so they're doing the next best thing. The problem is that Russia is increasingly disconnected from the European economy beyond energy, and is likely currently pivoting towards China on the latter- hence yanking those chains too often results in their increasing lack of effectiveness.

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From where? Pakistan?

 

[Dark Edea]

it's not agression, it's those state's will to host NATO bases, its none of Russia's business. Russia has mil bases in other countries too, like in Belarus. Is that an act of agression as well?


how is that agression? it's Ukraine's business. Was Russia's backing of previous Ukrainian regime an agression?


yeah after Russia annexed Ukrainian clay, eg. ACTUAL AGRESSION. Russian definition of "agression" is very assymetric it seems.




lol the treaties that were signed contained the smallest, most minute details, you must be silly thinking that they "forgot" or "overlooked" putting "no NATO expansion" in there if it was actually part of agreement.
Also in it's last days Soviet Union was on its knees, shitting it's pants. NATO (or rahter USA) could have had the place destabilised, balkanized and consumed by civil war with minimal effort, and then swoop in and take whatever it wanted, if it really intended to attack. Yet instead they helped stabilize it. So much for NATO just waiting to annex Russia's endless uninhabited permafrost.

If a "nation's will" is the West bribing and corrupting the bureaucracy with the intent to make good on old threats against the Russians, then I guess it really was all their decision. Russia is the only player in its sphere that is capable of pushing back against NATO co-option and control and NATO's American handlers can't deal with it.

Instead of a viable partner in the East, NATO has turned Russia into an enemy and sucked the sovereignty out of the Europeans. Further, they (NATO) have tempted and swayed Ukraine into treating its ethnic Russian populations as second-class citizens and in their own homeland no less. Of course Russia annexed those regions because those regions wanted Russian citizenship. They were being crushed by a malevolent puppet in Kiev hellbent on removing what they percieved as an undesirable segment of the population.

And all for the pleasure of some foreign, warmonger power one continent and an entire ocean away. This is the United States' fault because after the Cold War instead of allowing the former Soviet satellites to forge their own path and instead of drawing down from mainland Europe, the hawks in Washington decoded it would be better to subjugate them all.

You absolute buttfucking nigger. <3

 

[Meat Target]

SHUT IT DOWN

 

[Sithis]

I still think, perhaps with rainbows, that the pendulum ALWAYS swings back the other way (aka we went from the Religious Right to the Woke Left basically making the exact same arguments in a lot of cases), and the 2022 are going to shock a lot of the blue areas. Then we'll get more about how "the country is racist."

It will most certainly swing back, the question is whether we will live to see it and whether America will be able to get back on footing by the time it does. I have had this discussion a lot and owe this realization to one of the only based university professors I ever had - people think that history follows a straight line and that politics does too. Really its more akin to a pendulum. Yes, the circumstances change and of course we make progress along the way in terms of the logistics of it. But really it all comes down to bouncing back and forth along the spectrum. These shifts can take generations to unfold or they can happen as quickly as what we watched when everyone shifted from hyperpatriotic to conspiracy theorist between 9/11 and the war in Iraq.

 

[potato fan]

They did destabilize it (life expectancy plummeted for more than 10 years during the 90', people literally starved), balkanized it (farewell to Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltics and the rest of the Soviet republics) and encouraged a civil war (hello the first and second Chechen wars).

literally none of that was done by USA, all was the side effect of soviet unions economy collapsing. Also I am talking about the worst times in 1992-ish- after balkanisation, with turmoil in economy. If USA wanted to attack Russia, they would have easy job at that time, they wouldn't have to shoot one bullet, they could bribe every serviceman in russian armed forces with a pair of jeans, bag of oranges and maybe some Marlboros

I do not recall any "help" towards "stabilizing" anything,

well for one thing US was giving Russia a billion $ a year so they can safely manage their nuclear stockpile, safely store the decomissioned warheads etc. For other they convinced Ukraine to stay in Russian sphere of influence, and paid to dismantle Ukrainian nuclear arsenal, so Russia can keep one buttbuddy who they can rule over. They also lifted all economic sanctions, immediately started mutual reduction of arms etc. Russia was on its knees and could have been decapitated, instead USA reached out and proposed to stop the fight

only American "economic advisors" pushing for the most savage laissez-faire capitalist policies possible, the implementation of which spawned the current crop of oligarchs and shaped Russia's political landscape for decades to come, transitioning it to a cleptocratic oligarchy.

they didn't have much choice, socialist planned economy they had was shitting the bed HARD, what was the alternative? the slowly changing mix of socialist and capitalist systems? Ukraine and Belarus both did this, both needed constant IV drip of money from Russia to stay afloat. Too bad there would be no-one to sponsor Russia in the same way.

 

[tehpope]

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I'm surprised this wasn't done sooner. Before the election even. They already banned Veritas' account. Now Google needs to ban him from youtube and it'll be complete.

 

[Salubrious]

It will most certainly swing back, the question is whether we will live to see it and whether America will be able to get back on footing by the time it does. I have had this discussion a lot and owe this realization to one of the only based university professors I ever had - people think that history follows a straight line and that politics does too. Really its more akin to a pendulum. Yes, the circumstances change and of course we make progress along the way in terms of the logistics of it. But really it all comes down to bouncing back and forth along the spectrum. These shifts can take generations to unfold or they can happen as quickly as what we watched when everyone shifted from hyperpatriotic to conspiracy theorist between 9/11 and the war in Iraq.

I think the pendulum swings pretty quickly.

The last time we had two different presidents of the same party where Reagan and Bush Sr., and Bush only got one term.

 

[HumanHive]

The systematic effort of NATO to push Russia out of Europe by placing military bases and missile systems in former Soviet states. NATO's backing of the 2014 coup in Ukraine. Petty sanctions against Russia and attempts to push them out of the global community. And now you've got American domestic politics dragging everyone toward conflict as the Russiagate conspiracy has backed Democrats into a corner where they have no choice but to continue the lie and punish Putin for something he never did.

Russia's major mistake was to not get everything from the Americans in writing after the Cold War.

Russia has no inherent right to Europe. Fuck off. “Oh boo hoo, we can’t invade the Baltic states or the Caucasus because mean old NATO is an anti-Russian organization. It’s no fair America and Europe won’t let us restore the Russian Empire.” Nobody likes you, you’re the niggers of Europe.

 

[Ruin]

Russia has no inherent right to Europe. Fuck off. “Oh boo hoo, we can’t invade the Baltic states or the Caucasus because mean old NATO is an anti-Russian organization. It’s no fair America and Europe won’t let us restore the Russian Empire.” Nobody likes you, you’re the niggers of Europe.

Former eastern block shitholes with no natural resources and GDPs of $500 are not even remotely worth starting WWIII over. This is mostly old ass boomers salty about the cold War and dickwaving than anything else.

 

[HumanHive]

Former eastern block shitholes with no natural resources and GDPs of $500 are not even remotely worth starting WWIII over. This is mostly old ass boomers salty about the cold War and dickwaving than anything else.

Oh, I’m sorry? What started WW2 again? Oh that’s right Poland. And what was it that started WW1? Serbia. WW3 might as well start over Ukraine. It’d be a break in the pattern if it didn’t.

But if you want my preferred solution, Ukraine nukes up and Russia fucks off.

 

[Ruin]

Oh, I’m sorry? What started WW2 again? Oh that’s right Poland. And what was it that started WW1? Serbia. WW3 might as well start over Ukraine. It’d be a break in the pattern if it didn’t.

But if you want my preferred solution, Ukraine nukes up and Russia fucks off.

An allied victory in WWII let directly to the dystopian, corporate, neoliberal hellscape we're currently living in. A third world war would make that so much fucking worse.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

An allied victory in WWII let directly to the dystopian, corporate, neoliberal hellscape we're currently living in. A third world war would make that so much fucking worse.

Broke: Allied victory.
Woke: Axis victory.
Bespoke: Both sides build up their nuclear armaments to large levels and then launch all of them at each other.

 

[CrippleThreat]

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[potato fan]

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hope some richfag with a hateboner for twitter will bankroll good lawyers for him, a'la hulkster vs gawker

 

[HumanHive]

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As expected. It’s going to get tossed, though.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Twitter's plan of just permabanning people who are over the target doesn't raise eyebrows to normies at all, nope.