Plagued COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.

I want off this reddit simulator! Why wasn't I warned! What does plagued mean!?

oh
Look, I found this gay little nugget.

"Cellular hypoxia has strong mechanistic feature in promoting cancer initiation, progression, metastasis, predicting clinical outcomes and usually presents a poorer survival in patients with cancer. Most solid tumors present some degree of hypoxia, which is independent predictor of more aggressive disease, resistance to cancer therapies and poorer clinical outcomes."

Talking about facemasks. The conflagration here is amazing. What the fuck. So now, wearing a mask a couple of hours is going to cause me cellular cancer?

Jesus, what a gay little author "Baruch Vainshelboim". He cited a study showing that Aerobic excercise can increase a cancer patient outcome. No shit. But going from "running a bit can help with cancer" to "A small lack of O2 can increase your cancer risk" is so silly, it gives the expert witnesses at Chauvin's trial a run for their money.
 
Look, I found this gay little nugget.

"Cellular hypoxia has strong mechanistic feature in promoting cancer initiation, progression, metastasis, predicting clinical outcomes and usually presents a poorer survival in patients with cancer. Most solid tumors present some degree of hypoxia, which is independent predictor of more aggressive disease, resistance to cancer therapies and poorer clinical outcomes."

Talking about facemasks. The conflagration here is amazing. What the fuck. So now, wearing a mask a couple of hours is going to cause me cellular cancer?

Jesus, what a gay little author "Baruch Vainshelboim". He cited a study showing that Aerobic excercise can increase a cancer patient outcome. No shit. But going from "running a bit can help with cancer" to "A small lack of O2 can increase your cancer risk" is so silly, it gives the expert witnesses at Chauvin's trial a run for their money.
I know breaking the conditioning is hard. Be patient, we are here for you! Go slow, read that part again. Let your hate boner subside a few degrees. I bet on the third or fourth try some reading comprehension might just seep through.

We're rooting for you champ! Hypoxia good! Very bad good! (keep going you're so close!)
 
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I know breaking the conditioning is hard. Be patient, we are here for you! Go slow, read that part again. Let your hate boner subside a few degrees. I bet on the third or fourth try some reading comprehension might just seep through.

We're rooting for you champ!
Look, I'm not anti-semitic, but I'm not the one who cited a study from (((Baruch Vainshelboim))). So I don't know. Perhaps the masters at the top are not the jews after all, if they are the ones who want us to be free.
 
I've avoided commenting on this in large part because [PL] I work in the biopharmaceutical industry for a company that manufactures Vaccine components and APIs[/PL] so I've enough to stress out about re:vaccination without getting into slapfights with /pol/'s armchair experts. Thus, Imma drop this post here, and fuck off from this again, if you want to reply to spew whatever the fuck it is you want, have a ball, I don't care anymore.

because of a little, tiny designation this virus was given when shit hit the fan and public health policymakers realised this was a global problem: novel
"Novel" is how epidimielogists, biochemists, doctors, and the rest of the scientific community functionally indicate to the world the following: "We have exactly no fucking clue what this is, how it works, its short term effects, its long-term effects, how to treat infected patients, or how to prevent its transmission." all implied and wrapped up from saying: this is brand new, we haven't seen this before.

So, what do you do when a virus you really don't understand starts spreading worldwide in an effectively uncontrolled measure? You take action to stop transmission along the vectors you know. Thus the masks, quarantine, social distancing, and hand sanitizer literally fucking everywhere. Do the masks work perfectly? No. Does Social Distancing work perfectly? Pretty close, but also no. Does the Sanitizer work perfectly? No. Are they about as good as we've got at this stage? Yup.

What do you do about already infected patients? Thoughts and prayers they survive and then study the survivors and the dead as the situation allows. This is the step that takes years because there is literally no other way to study the long-term effects than to wait and see what develops. Thus the attempted measures to stop transmission occur. (At this point, don't come at me with "well that didn't work" especially if you're one of the lot that decided not to follow such procedures because the world gubbamint trying to oppress you, snowflake.)

"But it's so mild!" We didn't know that at the start and we still have no idea about the long-term effects of infection, so we can't say that accurately. The point was and remains, that the policymakers are going to err on the side of caution such that they can't be held accountable for doing nothing, which in their estimation, is better than being screeched autistically at for trying to do something.

Then we get to the government. Why did they crackdown trying to enforce these meadures so much? From a policymaking perspective: fucked if you do, fucked if you don't. If you do, segments of the population get big mad, an economic hit is taken, and you risk some unrest. If you don't, and especially if you don't and this is a cripplingly devastating virus, you've got blood on your hands and a much MUCH larger swathe of the population is big mad to the point of possible, serious political destabilization. So what do? Enforce the measures, risk some people getting pissed off, but at least a destructive virus didn't run completely rampant through the population on your watch. Cost v. benefits enforcement is the prudent choice and once the eggheads catch-up with something you can administer and then wash your hands of the situation with *coof coof* vaccine *coof coof* you can at least say "I tried" and for the most part, deflect a lot of the possible anger that would lead to the serious instability.

Here's what mRNA does.
TL;I'm too retarded to read: It teaches the cell to make the proteins that actually carry out the biochemical functions the cell needs to survive. That's it. All actual biochemical properties occurring thereafter are functions of the protein. Fun facts about the protein: they can be made incorrectly, they can perform their functions incorrectly, and we have next to no idea whether they can be perfected or how to do so, because we just started figuring out the basics of their folding.

But Papa Adolfo, you totalitarian, murderous pizza maestro, what does thst imply about the function of the mRNA vaccines? They won't alter your genome, as is commonly claimed in these conspiracies. For reasons explained herein. Read that and then ask yourself something: what's a simpler task to achieve? Modifying the genome such that people don't die of faulty cytoskeletal signatures en masse as a result of a fuckup along the incredibly delicate lines of genomic science? Or making a basic protein that simply works as a structural impediment to a virus with conspicuous spike proteins from accessing the cell such that such an antigen can then be eliminated from the body? Further along this line of thinking, given that we don't really understand enough about protein engineering to make the magical gene editors, what, then of the antibody formulation from mRNA? Well, there we have an actual capacity to do it. By examining immune responses to an antigen such as covid, the mRNA used in the process of the cell's translation can be isolated, examined, and then used to produce a vaccine.

"Muh Microchips!" There is no microchip on the market or otherwise capable of being an active RFID tracking device. The microchips in your dogs and likewise available on the market are passive RFID devices that store a few kbytes of info that tell the reading party who the owner of the dog is and their contact info. A maicrochip to communicate with a GPS service requires an onboard power supply. Currently available technology would make this an implant. Not a chip. You'd either have to re-charge it or invent a way for it to power itself similarly to a cell by means of processing chemical fuel. Then you need an antenna, which no microchip available is capable of hosting or processing outside of MovieBlob's precious cinema dreamscape. Finally, needed for tracking is an onboard memory system, which again, is all the microchips we have available actually comprise of with an rfid transmitter (which is decidedly different from an antenna.) In short, there is absolutely no capability for a microchip to track you to be injected because one does not exist. What microchip technology we have would pretty much accomplish the same purpose of shllchipping someone to leave an RFID signal in them permanently stating "LOL, u r ghey."

There you go. Have fun, I hope you get sent to the pastadome, but I am done replying on this. Sure, there's other crazy shit floating about but I said what I wanted to.
 

Please read this study, it confirms what many experts have been saying all along about masks and asymptomatic transmission.

They gave it to millions of old, sick and high risk people and nothing happened. So unless you really think it's full of 5G remote controlled nanobots that turn you into Satan's minion, there's really no good reason not to get it.
Because vaccines take several weeks to kick in. Then a
They gave it to millions of old, sick and high risk people and nothing happened. So unless you really think it's full of 5G remote controlled nanobots that turn you into Satan's minion, there's really no good reason not to get it.
Because vaccines take several weeks to kick in plus not everyone has had it. How fucking hard is that to understand. Once people my age have had it then we'll see the end of facemasks/social distancing
 
This kind of talk is kind of scary. I mean, interpret this how you will, but it sounds like if you let the medical profession set policy, we'd all be wearing masks forever, social distancing, and obsessively washing our hands. I mean I'd be okay with this, since other than the masks shit, that was how I already lived, but the economy kind of depends on other idiots not doing that.
I want government-issued power armor. It's the only way to be sure no one spreads the coof.
 
I want government-issued power armor. It's the only way to be sure no one spreads the coof.
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"CITIZEN, WHY ARE YOU NOT WEARING YOUR COVID MASK!? DOUBLE-TIME IT BACK HOME AND PUT ON YOUR N95 CERTIFIED MASK! DISMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSED!"

NGL, having an Enclave Officer in power armor at the entrance to every grocery store would be hilarious. Try watching the Karens and SovCits talk back to him.
 
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"CITIZEN, WHY ARE YOU NOT WEARING YOUR COVID MASK!? DOUBLE-TIME IT BACK HOME AND PUT ON YOUR N95 CERTIFIED MASK! DISMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSED!"

NGL, having an Enclave Officer in power armor at the entrance to every grocery store would be hilarious. Try watching the Karens and SovCits talk back to him.
.....Can I call you Sarge?
 
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"CITIZEN, WHY ARE YOU NOT WEARING YOUR COVID MASK!? DOUBLE-TIME IT BACK HOME AND PUT ON YOUR N95 CERTIFIED MASK! DISMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSED!"

NGL, having an Enclave Officer in power armor at the entrance to every grocery store would be hilarious. Try watching the Karens and SovCits talk back to him.
You've gotta love the American mindset. They didn't even buy or like AR-15's that much until the assault weapons ban in 1994. Created the foundation for the modern AR market.

I bet if masks weren't mandatory in some places, almost everyone would use it because they can't utilize the issue as an insane metaphor for freedom against the MAN.
 
They gave it to millions of old, sick and high risk people and nothing happened. So unless you really think it's full of 5G remote controlled nanobots that turn you into Satan's minion, there's really no good reason not to get it.
I'm still worried about the prion thing, which can take many years to develop in an afflicted subject.
 
quietly slipping in something nasty in vaccines further down the road once we become comfortable with the constant vaccines.

Vaccines already are a constant thing. The flu, small pox, tetanus, yellow fever, if you live in a half civilized country you have already been vaccined a dozen times, you should already be used to getting vaccines.

Why would "the elites" sneak 5G nanobots on the covid vaccine now when there's already been opportunities for decades already? Are you not going to take any vaccine ever again? In fact wouldn't be better to sneak something on the vaccines people are used to getting?
 
Why is this forum filled with anti vaxxers who honestly think a vaccine will cause more death than a pandemic? Did le orange man spawn them?
This entire site is full of right-wing conspiracy believing retards.

For example, people on this site have no idea what herd immunity is and how it's important to stop a pandemic, which is why getting vaccinated is important even if you're low risk. It also is full of retards who don't realize that yes, a mask's holes are smaller than the virus particles, but that the virus doesn't just fly out of your mouth by itself, but travels in spit and mucus, which the mask keeps in.

It's always funny when people who barely passed their slow-learner high school science class act like they know more than scientists and doctors about a pandemic.

I know breaking the conditioning is hard. Be patient, we are here for you! Go slow, read that part again. Let your hate boner subside a few degrees. I bet on the third or fourth try some reading comprehension might just seep through.

We're rooting for you champ! Hypoxia good! Very bad good! (keep going you're so close!)
Masks don't decrease oxygen, either. I can't believe you retards still keep claiming it does. I recommend you go back to A&N with the other spazes who think getting a D in their high school remedial science class makes them know more about a pandemic than scientists and doctors instead of tardraging in a thread made to mock retards like you

I've avoided commenting on this in large part because [PL] I work in the biopharmaceutical industry for a company that manufactures Vaccine components and APIs[/PL] so I've enough to stress out about re:vaccination without getting into slapfights with /pol/'s armchair experts. Thus, Imma drop this post here, and fuck off from this again, if you want to reply to spew whatever the fuck it is you want, have a ball, I don't care anymore.

because of a little, tiny designation this virus was given when shit hit the fan and public health policymakers realised this was a global problem: novel
"Novel" is how epidimielogists, biochemists, doctors, and the rest of the scientific community functionally indicate to the world the following: "We have exactly no fucking clue what this is, how it works, its short term effects, its long-term effects, how to treat infected patients, or how to prevent its transmission." all implied and wrapped up from saying: this is brand new, we haven't seen this before.

So, what do you do when a virus you really don't understand starts spreading worldwide in an effectively uncontrolled measure? You take action to stop transmission along the vectors you know. Thus the masks, quarantine, social distancing, and hand sanitizer literally fucking everywhere. Do the masks work perfectly? No. Does Social Distancing work perfectly? Pretty close, but also no. Does the Sanitizer work perfectly? No. Are they about as good as we've got at this stage? Yup.

What do you do about already infected patients? Thoughts and prayers they survive and then study the survivors and the dead as the situation allows. This is the step that takes years because there is literally no other way to study the long-term effects than to wait and see what develops. Thus the attempted measures to stop transmission occur. (At this point, don't come at me with "well that didn't work" especially if you're one of the lot that decided not to follow such procedures because the world gubbamint trying to oppress you, snowflake.)

"But it's so mild!" We didn't know that at the start and we still have no idea about the long-term effects of infection, so we can't say that accurately. The point was and remains, that the policymakers are going to err on the side of caution such that they can't be held accountable for doing nothing, which in their estimation, is better than being screeched autistically at for trying to do something.

Then we get to the government. Why did they crackdown trying to enforce these meadures so much? From a policymaking perspective: fucked if you do, fucked if you don't. If you do, segments of the population get big mad, an economic hit is taken, and you risk some unrest. If you don't, and especially if you don't and this is a cripplingly devastating virus, you've got blood on your hands and a much MUCH larger swathe of the population is big mad to the point of possible, serious political destabilization. So what do? Enforce the measures, risk some people getting pissed off, but at least a destructive virus didn't run completely rampant through the population on your watch. Cost v. benefits enforcement is the prudent choice and once the eggheads catch-up with something you can administer and then wash your hands of the situation with *coof coof* vaccine *coof coof* you can at least say "I tried" and for the most part, deflect a lot of the possible anger that would lead to the serious instability.

Here's what mRNA does.
TL;I'm too retarded to read: It teaches the cell to make the proteins that actually carry out the biochemical functions the cell needs to survive. That's it. All actual biochemical properties occurring thereafter are functions of the protein. Fun facts about the protein: they can be made incorrectly, they can perform their functions incorrectly, and we have next to no idea whether they can be perfected or how to do so, because we just started figuring out the basics of their folding.

But Papa Adolfo, you totalitarian, murderous pizza maestro, what does thst imply about the function of the mRNA vaccines? They won't alter your genome, as is commonly claimed in these conspiracies. For reasons explained herein. Read that and then ask yourself something: what's a simpler task to achieve? Modifying the genome such that people don't die of faulty cytoskeletal signatures en masse as a result of a fuckup along the incredibly delicate lines of genomic science? Or making a basic protein that simply works as a structural impediment to a virus with conspicuous spike proteins from accessing the cell such that such an antigen can then be eliminated from the body? Further along this line of thinking, given that we don't really understand enough about protein engineering to make the magical gene editors, what, then of the antibody formulation from mRNA? Well, there we have an actual capacity to do it. By examining immune responses to an antigen such as covid, the mRNA used in the process of the cell's translation can be isolated, examined, and then used to produce a vaccine.

"Muh Microchips!" There is no microchip on the market or otherwise capable of being an active RFID tracking device. The microchips in your dogs and likewise available on the market are passive RFID devices that store a few kbytes of info that tell the reading party who the owner of the dog is and their contact info. A maicrochip to communicate with a GPS service requires an onboard power supply. Currently available technology would make this an implant. Not a chip. You'd either have to re-charge it or invent a way for it to power itself similarly to a cell by means of processing chemical fuel. Then you need an antenna, which no microchip available is capable of hosting or processing outside of MovieBlob's precious cinema dreamscape. Finally, needed for tracking is an onboard memory system, which again, is all the microchips we have available actually comprise of with an rfid transmitter (which is decidedly different from an antenna.) In short, there is absolutely no capability for a microchip to track you to be injected because one does not exist. What microchip technology we have would pretty much accomplish the same purpose of shllchipping someone to leave an RFID signal in them permanently stating "LOL, u r ghey."

There you go. Have fun, I hope you get sent to the pastadome, but I am done replying on this. Sure, there's other crazy shit floating about but I said what I wanted to.
Finally, someone who knows what the fuck they're talking about.
 
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Obviously they're sneaking them into the COVID vaccines because the 2009 pandemic flu vaccine nanobots were all on 3G. You think that would be enough for the fairly simple commands you need to control a nanobot, but CGI Federal's code is bloated all to hell and a simple mass shoot instruction now requires a few megabytes of data.

As for "constant vaccines," since the US is a half-civilized country, all my fellow burgers should have gotten these as children:

* Hep B (3 doses)
* Rotavirus (2 doses)
* Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (4 doses with ten year boosters)
* Hib (3-4 doses)
* Pneumococcal (4 doses)
* Polio (3 doses)
* Influenza (every year)
* Measles, mumps, rubella
* Varicella (2 doses)
* Hep A (2 doses)

There's a few more that are sort of recommended, but there's some leeway on age and risk factors, like HPV. I was too old when they finally approved it for males, but I'm an incel anyway so unless I am raped I should be fine. Then there is another schedule for adults including meningococcal, pneumococcal, herpes zoster, and the usual annual vaccines and boosters. And some people get special vaccines because they travel to less-civilized countries, or because Uncle Sam loves them and doesn't want them catching smallpox or anthrax. But the point is, "a dozen times" is an understatement.
 
I've avoided commenting on this in large part because [PL] I work in the biopharmaceutical industry for a company that manufactures Vaccine components and APIs[/PL] so I've enough to stress out about re:vaccination without getting into slapfights with /pol/'s armchair experts. Thus, Imma drop this post here, and fuck off from this again, if you want to reply to spew whatever the fuck it is you want, have a ball, I don't care anymore.

because of a little, tiny designation this virus was given when shit hit the fan and public health policymakers realised this was a global problem: novel
"Novel" is how epidimielogists, biochemists, doctors, and the rest of the scientific community functionally indicate to the world the following: "We have exactly no fucking clue what this is, how it works, its short term effects, its long-term effects, how to treat infected patients, or how to prevent its transmission." all implied and wrapped up from saying: this is brand new, we haven't seen this before.

So, what do you do when a virus you really don't understand starts spreading worldwide in an effectively uncontrolled measure? You take action to stop transmission along the vectors you know. Thus the masks, quarantine, social distancing, and hand sanitizer literally fucking everywhere. Do the masks work perfectly? No. Does Social Distancing work perfectly? Pretty close, but also no. Does the Sanitizer work perfectly? No. Are they about as good as we've got at this stage? Yup.

What do you do about already infected patients? Thoughts and prayers they survive and then study the survivors and the dead as the situation allows. This is the step that takes years because there is literally no other way to study the long-term effects than to wait and see what develops. Thus the attempted measures to stop transmission occur. (At this point, don't come at me with "well that didn't work" especially if you're one of the lot that decided not to follow such procedures because the world gubbamint trying to oppress you, snowflake.)

"But it's so mild!" We didn't know that at the start and we still have no idea about the long-term effects of infection, so we can't say that accurately. The point was and remains, that the policymakers are going to err on the side of caution such that they can't be held accountable for doing nothing, which in their estimation, is better than being screeched autistically at for trying to do something.

Then we get to the government. Why did they crackdown trying to enforce these meadures so much? From a policymaking perspective: fucked if you do, fucked if you don't. If you do, segments of the population get big mad, an economic hit is taken, and you risk some unrest. If you don't, and especially if you don't and this is a cripplingly devastating virus, you've got blood on your hands and a much MUCH larger swathe of the population is big mad to the point of possible, serious political destabilization. So what do? Enforce the measures, risk some people getting pissed off, but at least a destructive virus didn't run completely rampant through the population on your watch. Cost v. benefits enforcement is the prudent choice and once the eggheads catch-up with something you can administer and then wash your hands of the situation with *coof coof* vaccine *coof coof* you can at least say "I tried" and for the most part, deflect a lot of the possible anger that would lead to the serious instability.

Here's what mRNA does.
TL;I'm too retarded to read: It teaches the cell to make the proteins that actually carry out the biochemical functions the cell needs to survive. That's it. All actual biochemical properties occurring thereafter are functions of the protein. Fun facts about the protein: they can be made incorrectly, they can perform their functions incorrectly, and we have next to no idea whether they can be perfected or how to do so, because we just started figuring out the basics of their folding.

But Papa Adolfo, you totalitarian, murderous pizza maestro, what does thst imply about the function of the mRNA vaccines? They won't alter your genome, as is commonly claimed in these conspiracies. For reasons explained herein. Read that and then ask yourself something: what's a simpler task to achieve? Modifying the genome such that people don't die of faulty cytoskeletal signatures en masse as a result of a fuckup along the incredibly delicate lines of genomic science? Or making a basic protein that simply works as a structural impediment to a virus with conspicuous spike proteins from accessing the cell such that such an antigen can then be eliminated from the body? Further along this line of thinking, given that we don't really understand enough about protein engineering to make the magical gene editors, what, then of the antibody formulation from mRNA? Well, there we have an actual capacity to do it. By examining immune responses to an antigen such as covid, the mRNA used in the process of the cell's translation can be isolated, examined, and then used to produce a vaccine.

"Muh Microchips!" There is no microchip on the market or otherwise capable of being an active RFID tracking device. The microchips in your dogs and likewise available on the market are passive RFID devices that store a few kbytes of info that tell the reading party who the owner of the dog is and their contact info. A maicrochip to communicate with a GPS service requires an onboard power supply. Currently available technology would make this an implant. Not a chip. You'd either have to re-charge it or invent a way for it to power itself similarly to a cell by means of processing chemical fuel. Then you need an antenna, which no microchip available is capable of hosting or processing outside of MovieBlob's precious cinema dreamscape. Finally, needed for tracking is an onboard memory system, which again, is all the microchips we have available actually comprise of with an rfid transmitter (which is decidedly different from an antenna.) In short, there is absolutely no capability for a microchip to track you to be injected because one does not exist. What microchip technology we have would pretty much accomplish the same purpose of shllchipping someone to leave an RFID signal in them permanently stating "LOL, u r ghey."

There you go. Have fun, I hope you get sent to the pastadome, but I am done replying on this. Sure, there's other crazy shit floating about but I said what I wanted to.

It's at least reassuring they can't put in any microchips or do malicious gene editing using the vaccine. Though I'm not 100% sold on the vaccines, I can at least see they aren't traps like conspiracists are stating they are. I'd even show my folks this if it wasn't from KiwiFarms.
 
Look, I'm not anti-semitic, but I'm not the one who cited a study from (((Baruch Vainshelboim))). So I don't know. Perhaps the masters at the top are not the jews after all, if they are the ones who want us to be free.
Id argue they are Satanists and use that "jew" crap as a cover.

It's at least reassuring they can't put in any microchips or do malicious gene editing using the vaccine. Though I'm not 100% sold on the vaccines, I can at least see they aren't traps like conspiracists are stating they are. I'd even show my folks this if it wasn't from KiwiFarms.
Malicious gene editing is done through manipulating mRNA. it instructs how cells reproduce and what their function is, much like how your skin heals up looking identically how it was before an injury.

Its also how CRISPR is able to edit genes.
 
Then there is another schedule for adults including meningococcal, pneumococcal, herpes zoster, and the usual annual vaccines and boosters.
I had to get meningitis for undergrad. This can burn through a campus and is super deadly. It's also super rare, largely thanks to vaccines. I also had to take a course of antibiotics for TB, because I tested positive for having been exposed to it at some point, although I never actually had it.
 
Man, it’s hilarious that there’s all this anger against masks when I’ve learned that I’m going to start wearing masks a hell of a lot more. My kids haven’t been sick in almost a year, despite schools being reopened. Not even a cold or anything, and all they’re doing is wearing masks and washing their hands more. This is literally the longest my family has gone without someone getting some sort of cold or flu or whatever.
 
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