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I wonder how ree's reading if this "self defence" (chasing down someone while brandishing a weapon after the initial threat is over) vs say Kyle. Yeah something tells me they have very different opinions of the validity of that being self defence.
 
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Spirelord said:
"If you are carrying a firearm, why not just fire a warning shot?"

I only got basic safety training with firearms and never fired one or trained to be a cop, but isn't there a chance that the 'warning shot' may hit one of the other people at the scene? Wouldn't that be a VERY BAD thing especially if you probably have to shoot the threat anyway, meaning that the injury was avoidable? The reason why I say this is because I'm assuming by 'warning shot' they mean a shot aimed at nearby dirt or the ground which may ricochet or bounce or something. But they may be implying that bullets shot into the air disappear instead of injuring someone far away, meaning any EMS showing up would have to find and treat them as well.

Typing it out makes it sound like any warning shot seems unnecessary compared to just shooting and neutralizing the threat but SURELY ResetERA wouldn't talk about things they don't understand fully like me, right?
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It creates legal issues and liability for the shooter. As said before, you're responsible for wherever the bullet goes regardless of what your target is. If you fire a warning shot an take someone out, you're looking at manslaughter. The cop in the Brianna Taylor case got in trouble because he accidently shot into the wrong apartment while being pinned down by rifle fire from Brianna's lover.

Secondly, it hurts your case for self defense/defending another. To pull a gun and fire it, you have to believe your life or someone else's life is in immanent danger. If you pull the gun, purposely miss your target, or wave it around and jabber about how you're gonna use it, the prosecution will make the argument that you didn't believe your life was in danger because you did a lot of shit with your gun besides dropping the threat with it. They will win, and you will go to jail and surendor your right to ever own a gun again.

It's fucked, but the government has been trying to regulate away weapons for decades. That's why you're not allowed to carry a knife, mace, bat, etc. in most places in the US. Almost everything besides a gun is banned for self defense, and the only reason guns aren't is because of 2A.

TLDR: while warning shots aren't specifically illegal, it destroys your argument for self defense and you will go to jail. Shoot to kill or don't pull the gun at all.
 
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ForTheHoard said:
It's fucked, but the government has been trying to regulate away weapons for decades. That's why you're not allowed to carry a knife, mace, bat, etc. in most places in the US. Almost everything besides a gun is banned for self defense, and the only reason guns aren't is because of 2A.
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Knives and other weapons certainly are covered by the 2nd Amendment. Not many knives are actually illegal in the US. You may not be able to do concealed carry of them, but there aren't too many limits on open carry in most public places. Secutiy limits are otherwise like firearms or even more lenient. If you want to walk the streets with a saber on your belt, you can walk the streets with a saber on your belt most places.
 
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kcbbq said:
Knives and other weapons certainly are covered by the 2nd Amendment. Not many knives are actually illegal in the US. You may not be able to do concealed carry of them, but there aren't too many limits on open carry in most public places. Secutiy limits are otherwise like firearms or even more lenient. If you want to walk the streets with a saber on your belt, you can walk the streets with a saber on your belt most places.
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3 or 4 places I've lived heavily regulated the carrying of a knife, blade length, opening method, number of edges, etc. I was under the impression that those restrictions were pretty universal, especially considering major knife manufacturers have departments that handle models only sold to military and law enforcement.
 
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ForTheHoard said:
TLDR: while warning shots aren't specifically illegal, it destroys your argument for self defense and you will go to jail. Shoot to kill or don't pull the gun at all.
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Never pull a gun unless you think you are going to die otherwise, and if you do, make sure you are the only one alive to tell the story.
kcbbq said:
Not many knives are actually illegal in the US.
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There are some. So-called "push daggers" or "punch knives" are illegal in some places, especially where they were often used in riots. It's easier to post a picture than explain so I'll do that.
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DocMorbis said:
What the fuck is "Interphobic"
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Two seconds on Google:
"Interphobia describes prejudice, discrimination or hatred towards people who are intersex (this includes people with variations in sex characteristics and differences in sexual development who may not use the term 'intersex' to describe themself)"

Two more seconds looking up this Kaine character brings up this. I spoilered it just in case, since I don't know jack shit about the game:

Female (As human)
Female (Intersex) (As replicant)
 
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ForTheHoard said:
3 or 4 places I've lived heavily regulated the carrying of a knife, blade length, opening method, number of edges, etc. I was under the impression that those restrictions were pretty universal, especially considering major knife manufacturers have departments that handle models only sold to military and law enforcement.
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Usually only in your shittier states and usually only for carrying, not owning. Massachusetts severely restricts what types of knives may be carried, but all of those restricted classes, switchblades, double-edged daggers, novelty knives that don't look like a knife, are legal to own. In Florida you can open carry any fixed blade knife without a permit up to and including a machete with a two foot blade. With a Florida state Concealed Weapons Permit (they don't call them pistol permits here) you can carry concealed any legal knife including automatics (switchblades). The only knives that I know of that are almost universally illegal to own in the US are ballistic knives, which are the Spetznatz-style knife that lauches a spring-loaded blade at a distant target.
 
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