[2021 April 21] DSP kicked out of Twitch Partnership? Edit: Confirmed.

How soon will the partnership be back?

  • It's actually gone.

    Votes: 619 44.1%
  • 24 hours or less

    Votes: 181 12.9%
  • 1-3 days

    Votes: 345 24.6%
  • 3-7 days

    Votes: 136 9.7%
  • 7 days+

    Votes: 122 8.7%

  • Total voters
    1,403
I'm only an occasional Phil follower. Assuming this ban sticks, how screwed is Phil, realistically?

Also, what's the thing about not talking about bits in relation to money? They're not allowed to say how much of a cut Twitch gets compared to the streamer? Is this some "they're not funbux because Jeff Bezos says they're not" type of thing?
Begging will be turned up to 11. Possibly more crying on stream for sympathy tips. It wouldn't surprise me to see him go bipolar during his future streams until twitch caves. Moreso than usual.
 
That seems highly plausible. These are dangerous times for free thought and speech. Not a fan of DSP by any means, but it would suck for all of us if this was the reason he got shit canned.
A man who shrugged off the scorn of the internet and the IRS being defeated because he refused to bend a knee for George Floyd's death is a fresh, new kind of existential horror.
 
what the fuck are you talking about? his point was that Phil is intelligent and a *good* con artist. My point is that he is neither. The man is equating being successful at something as being good at it.

because i'm sure no one here can name anyone that they know personally who is successful while being shit at their job, right?
it's DSP, if anything being on the internet has taught me is that shit people can fail upwards from time to time, he's one example, his whales will try to sustain him however they can and since he lost his twitch income he will look for other ways and no doubt will recieve tips from his followers.
Begging will be turned up to 11. Possibly more crying on stream for sympathy tips. It wouldn't surprise me to see him go bipolar during his future streams until twitch caves. Moreso than usual.
he is already begging, lol.
A man who shrugged off the scorn of the internet and the IRS being defeated because he refused to bend a knee for George Floyd's death is a fresh, new kind of existential horror.
extremely possible however, can't "companies do what they want" sthick?
 
I'm only an occasional Phil follower. Assuming this ban sticks, how screwed is Phil, realistically?

Also, what's the thing about not talking about bits in relation to money? They're not allowed to say how much of a cut Twitch gets compared to the streamer? Is this some "they're not funbux because Jeff Bezos says they're not" type of thing?
About the bits, Twitch has a not insignificant amount of underage customers. Defining them as not-funbux would be troublesome. Encouraging cheer wars is fun and positive. Encouraging alternate twitch currency wars is scummy and greedy, not to mention a lot of 13 year olds trying to outbid each other in a battle for Thot Du Jour's attention is... Well, a little conflictive, to say the least. Cheers magically take away that problem, just like how lootboxes are totally absolutely most definitely NOT inducting children into gambling because we SAY THEY'RE NOT, THEY HAVE NO REAL MONETARY VALUE, AND PROVIDE NO POSSIBLE PAYOFF, so you can shut yer cakehole, lawmakers, thanks.

Tl;dr, bits are money converted at a loss. Lootboxes are gambling. But we need kids to spend on this shit so shhhhh. In short, a kid who starts gambling at a young age might actually get some returns, a kid who starts lootboxing/cheering at a young age is simply getting scammed and this somehow makes it better.

About how fucked Phil is, being real, this IS going to be a hit to his income no matter how you spin it. For starters OIC is primarily a funbux whale, not a real money whale. American wheelchairs could ocasionally get bits from ads or some publicity deals and funnel them to Phil. The bulk of his income was still tips, so he'll likely be fine, money wise.

Comfort wise, however, if Twitch ejects him, he is WELL and TRULY fucked. For potentially different reasons, depending on which platform he heads to after. On Youtube, you can have ten different tags active at any time. Switching between them is a one button click. Each tag can have up to 10, maybe more different channels. Each of these can give a dislike, and ban evade on chats. So, in short: Widely disliked streamer with a hatedom in the thousands+Very small cabal of trusted, thoroughly pignotized cucks to mod for him+Some detractors having a type rate of over 140 words per minute+Wide open, hard to moderate chat with super easy and convenient sock account mechanics= Paladin Swagginz swinging his autistic banhammer at full force, but gradually getting overtaken by a hundred little goblins, and figuratively eaten alive. His Twitch chat is already very lowkey detractory. His YT chat would be several times worse.

Phil couldn't even start a chill begment without ten or twenty guys immediately bringing up how he makes thousands a month, others asking where the money's gone, Angry Crows chanting how Khet is getting blacked in a yellow thong CAW, and another ten memeing on how it's WWE champions time and they love it.

If he chooses one of the more hipster platforms like Trovo or Bitwave, the problem is at the starting gate: Not a lot of people will follow. Quality and features will be lacking. His only real options are the big two: Twitch and Youtube. Staying on Twitch as a nothing, not even affiliate, would just spell a hit to his income that he'd have to make up for with increased begging. Staying on Youtube would probably break him mentally, since the trolling could really become unstoppable.
 
extremely possible however, can't "companies do what they want" sthick?
In a sense. Terms of Service and similar user contracts don't have a very good track record in court. I'm not sure how exactly Phil could sue Twitch, but considering we just saw a police officer convicted of voluntary and involuntary murder at the same time I wouldn't put my faith in the U.S. legal system in any way whatsoever.
 
considering we just saw a police officer convicted of voluntary and involuntary murder at the same time I wouldn't put my faith in the U.S. legal system in any way whatsoever.
i really wasn't paying attention to floyd's trial (not-murica) but it's interesting to see how fucked up the law system in borgarland is, shit, even russia is less retarded than that.
So, jumped in late, but has he said/lied about why he lost partnership?
wasn't disclosed yet but he has his mouth shut about it. only theorization from fans and /v/
 
No one knows the reason yet? I figured running a Jerry’s Kids sort of teleathon on twitch, only instead of for sick kids it’s for a grown man’s sweaty wrestler man pixels and taxes, finally made twitch dump him. Also, the “tips plz, no subs cheers, need money ASAP” seemed like a big no no too.
 
I'm not sure how exactly Phil could sue Twitch, but considering we just saw a police officer convicted of voluntary and involuntary murder at the same time I wouldn't put my faith in the U.S. legal system in any way whatsoever.
Not going to sidetrack this thread too far, but the long and short is that the charges were inclusive, meaning that the jury decided whether the legal criteria for each were met for each, starting from least severe (the manslaughter charge) to most severe (the 2nd degree murder charge). In most states, only the highest charge for which the criteria were met would be the "guilty" charge. For some reason, Minnesota has it set up such that all can be found as "guilty", but the person is only charged based on the most severe.
 
Black people have voodoo magic, Asians have chi magic, south americans have mystic aztec magic but the strongest magic is white people's DSP based magic which makes you impervious from the law and when someone does you wrong they get inflicted with a curse that causes them to fail.
 
i really wasn't paying attention to floyd's trial (not-murica) but it's interesting to see how fucked up the law system in borgarland is, shit, even russia is less retarded than that.

wasn't disclosed yet but he has his mouth shut about it. only theorization from fans and /v/
I'm expecting it to come back in 24-48 hours. Pigroach law dictates that Phil must always remain in limbo.
 
My impression is that there is an actual legal reason for it. Something like federal wire laws between states.

I don't think it's a pure Twitch decision.
I believe it would be considered selling a security.

"some people are speculating if i turn the stream off i'll be banned"

imagine if he just never fucking turned it off.
We know how that turned out last time

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The only reason Khet would be crying is if she just now realized what a loser she married.
Well, if she was still there.
 
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