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influenza jab efficacity fluctue between 30% and 60%. 0% efficacity rate do happen. I knew it the coronovirus jab is just a glorified influneza jab and may even be less effective
When they announced of a pfizer booster shot my sis said what the point of vaccine now?
That sounds plausible. Flu jabs can result in minor infections, although allegedly not with these fancy new mrNA jabs, and while imperfect, the flu jab is good, as a serious strain of flu is not an experience I ever want to repeat. All of this soul destroying lockdown and all we have for it is a second rate flu jab. Politicians need to burn in hell.
 
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the lowdown on these mutations? I keep hearing about them and how scary they are but what's their impact on infections/deaths? Can they even attribute variants to rising cases or is this just an informed guess by medical experts? I've heard around that viruses tend to mutate to be more infectious but less lethal over time, would Covid be any different?
The media is freaking out about this for ratings and the government for control. These viruses do mutate, but they mutate to be less lethal over time.
 
Weird situation: Buddy went to get his second vaccine, and was sitting down, waiting to be injected, when he looked at the paperwork and realized he was getting the opposite vaccine from his first doze. Aka first was Moderna, second was about to be Pfizer. He freaked out on the nurse, who told him it was fine and not to worry about it, but he did, and left the test site. He called all around town but is having trouble now getting anyone to promise him a second dose of the one he started with.

Some research papers discuss if it's okay or not to mix vaccines: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/can-we-mix-and-match-covid-19-vaccines-experts-say-not-yet
TLDR: We don't know.


Funnily enough, a couple of drunks who I know who live around the corner and sometimes drink 'on the street', well, outside their houses anyway, they both asked me if I had the vaccine. They had both just had it. They were both vulnerable for some reason. One guy I know had Kidney cancer (he told me before) and only had 1 kidney left, so I get him being in this class - other guy - don't know. Anyway, the big Scottish drunk who is built like the proverbial shithouse (this is the one that didn't have cancer) told me the same thing: that he had gone in to have his second shot as he was classed as 'vulnerable' and they wanted to mix vaccines.

Now he's not the brightest bulb in the box, but he's got street smarts enough, and even this sent alarm bells ringing for him. Thing is, like most NPC's he told me: I asked the nurse if it was safe and she said 'oh yeah of course', so I trusted her and got my second shot. It sounded like he wasn't totally convinced and might have been pressured a bit, in a very nice way, and he was seeking some kind of assurance.

I instantly thought WTF! to be honest, but I didn't say that to him. I just said, oh well I'm sure it's alright then. In the absolute miniscule amount of research I've done on these vax (as in almost fuck all) I did glean that at least 2 of the big 3 vary from each other in their application. That's 'application' as in 'mechanism of action' not 'application' as in 'you found some other way to take it other than a needle'.

I do remember that one of the vax he told me about was definitely the Astra Zeneca one as that rung a bell for me as that was what my folks had (asked about it quite a few pages ago in this thread). So if you are saying that they are mixing Moderna and Pfizer, then that means they are not just mixing two vax together, but three, ergo, at least one works by a different 'application', compared to whatever other one, so would end up conflicting with at least one of the other ones, if not two? Something to do with mRNA? Or not. Fuck.

No fucking idea how that fucking works. Count me out though. Whilst I remain a moron on the subject I'll wait until I get better informed.

I'm sure I got something wrong, because that just can't be right can it? Happy to be put right on this one. I'd not heard of this happening elsewhere before, and what really got me is that I only know of a handful of people that have got the vax (don't get out much), yet I run in to this with one of the few people I know.

Double WTF!

Statistically this runs against the probability that this is a low-occurrence. Then again I'm one of those dumb asses (alluded to earlier) who has never been taught about how to 'read' these things properly, so I may be wrong on that again. It's not that I wasn't not taught (I wasn't) but I'm just a bit of a 'himbo' anyway'. LOL.

At this point I have no idea what the fuck is going on any more. Just that there's a sinister game afoot, and even the best and most astute (and paranoid) among us only know half the story.

That Chinese Curse came true!

In more ways than one!


Never mind abour race-mixing, what about vax-mixing!

Is this really a thing?

And among 3 discrete different vaccines, two of which have very different mechanisms of action?

This is probably why I'm not a doctor. Lol.


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The second vaccine that the drunk Scottish guy told me about that was being mixed with his original AZ one was definitely Moderna or Pfizer. I've heard of both of those but not any others. Anyway, I'll ask him next time I see him just to confirm. Also he felt as if he should have been told about this before hand rather than LOL CALM DOWN!
 
At this point, I'm 100% convinced that anything Fauci says about the vaccines isn't because he's stupid (well, not entirely because he's stupid because he is stupid), it's Big Pharma pulling the strings. What better way to ensure continued gigantic profits than by making everyone come back in for a third dose? Or a fourth, or fifth? Hell, let's recommend infinite booster shots, be sure to get topped off every week! You don't want to kill Grandma, do you?

And yes, I'm aware that this is the Pfizer CEO talking, but it still applies to the rat fuck. I'd love to know how much of his stock portfolio is in Big Pharma, and/or how many kickbacks he's gotten since this shit began.

The gamer within me is reminded of this

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To those that need some context, in the Dead Rising series after the original, there has been this drug created to stop (not cure) the zombie parasite for 12 hours. If you have been bitten in the suspicious and obviously-caused-by-terrorists zombie outbreaks, you have three options.

Death, undeath or Zombrex...constantly. There is no cure and you are stuck having to buy Zombrex since your life DEPENDS on it. It forces several infectees and their loved ones to do everything to get a life saving dose on whatever means necessary, legal or otherwise.

And spoilers for those that didnt play Dead Rising 2 and 3, thats your warning.
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Anyway, turns out that the mega pharma corporation responsible for Zombrex is obviously setting up these zombie outbreaks that the media will just hand waved as terrorist attacks. Each outbreak will produce more queen wasps (the required ingredient for Zombrex) and more infectees to keep paying and paying while implying they are withholding a cure all along. And recently they are making a big deal of their BRAND NEW 24 hour version! Most likely double the price too but hey, its your ass on the line, what choice you have? ;)💵💵💵💵 Pay up, motherfucker...:jaceknife:

In 3, turns out they somehow (its kept rather vague in the plot) got along with the government to have the infectees with chips implanted under their skins that pumps Zombrex into their bodies daily and serves to track them if they somehow turn due to a fault of the chip.

Man, Dead Rising 2 and 3 have aged frighteningly well.

But somehow its less pathetic in Dead Rising because you are in legit threat to turn into a mindless killing machine, in the pesky real world...its a cold...:suffering:
 
Thank god I built up my immune system for decades, unlike these young pussies with hand sanitizer, and anti-microbial soap every day of their lives.
Fast tracked different versions of vaccines, mixing and matching boosters with no research, what a shitshow.
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Cloth masks likely don't have asbestos in them, just looking at it cynically it would be very expensive.
But look at it this way, the official claim is that cloth masks consist of normal textile fibers and polypropylene fibers.
Now polypropylene fibers are not considered to be harmful, at least not in safe doses. They don't shred your lungs like asbestos, but studies do show that as the amount of polypropylene increases the amount of cells needed to clear cellular debris increases
My take in it is that cloth masks are not harmful if used for a store trip now and then, but wearing it for hours every day, reusing the same mask and wearing it down is probably not good
Looks like most skitzo posts, got information and their brain is a BlendTec special.
Some masks the government of Quebec distributed to schools, and forced children to wear, were leaking a carbon fiber inner layer into the mouths/noses of people who were using them.
Government types, seeing carbon fibers, and remembering asbestos have classified them as "potentially hazardous".
 
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In the UK, the Government have dialled it back massively too.

Yes they have. They know a good thing when they see it and a bad thing when they fear it. They monitor us 24/7. We all have personal tracking devices, which all of the data that is scraped from them, is collected for later retrieval after storage. Hard drive prices never going down baby! Buy Buy Buy (stocks that is - not Hard Disks themselves).

Public sentiment is turning against them, and while I've no real faith in Britbongs locating their baws and using them, it's really nice to see so many people cottoning on to the complete never ending stream of BS the last few months.

In aggregate, we aren't a stupid people. For a small island of fucking porridge wogs, potato niggers, pugnacious little trolls (R.I.P. AA Gill.) and of course the arrogant fucking English who no one likes and that is why they don't even have a fucking nick-name - because they are such cunts, but lol I better calm down. English are alright. Gave us Penicillins *, then again I grow a new variety of them every fucking week in my lab kitchen, when I forget to eat, because I'm drinking so much beer and all my bread goes moldy. Easy fucking peelers too! And I really like Easy Peelers. Great substrata for new yet to be discovered strains of antibiotics when all the TB drug-resistent shit hits the fan after Corona. And probably because of Corona too fam tbh! We're getting vaxxed up to the eyballs and that can't be good.

* That man's name?

Sir Alexander Floyd.

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Talking of antibiotic resistant TB. Saw a program on real heavy stuff in Africa. Heartbreaking. Poor little teenage black girl. TFW> being told you are going to die because all of the drugs don't work, and you are gonna drown in your own liquids. At the same time, not being able to get even a fucking BANANA. Outside, tropical conditions, great earth. Lots of fruit being grown in some parts of the country, but hey, they got stolen and sold off to the rich who were the only ones able to afford them. Supply and demand don't mean a thing motherfuckers, when you control the supply and can eliminate the demand. Like that poor black girl dying from TB. Poor little niggger bitch died in her own fluids after not even being able to get a SINGLE FUCKING BANANA in a country of plenty, because, well, the nurses were siphoning them off and selling them on.

Ah well.

Interesting what you say about the 77th as well Flid. It's kinda well known in military circles that you are always fighting the last war. Not a military man, remember? I'm a 'himbo'! And that the next war will be fought for hearts and minds in the information age, never mind sabotaging nuclear centrifugal devices in Iran via that old chesnut of ooh let's leave a usb stick on the floor in the parking lot so as to see if some nigga picks it up to to see if there's any p[r]on on there. Which of course there isn't but there is multi-nation 5th generational warfare malware on that makes yer ol' washing machine go: KABOOM!

dOH!

I mean, Doh!

We got a few posters from arrse on here and that site is great. I love the boys and girls there, but it's been compromised, increasingly so for the last few years. They can't chuck out the old die hard war veterans who voice displeasure at having gays and fucking trannies in the military, but they can sideline them, slide threads. It's an essay in itself.

And the slow march to freedom carries on. Inexorably. Indubitably.

At some point, hands do need to be revealed though, and we've seen a few of them brought out over the last year or two after [CURRENT YEAR]. But us fucking spastics are so busy arguing about what any of it means, that probably none of us really knows what it all fucking means. I don't anyway.

But something is rotten in the state of Denmark, anyway. And it's probably not a BANANA. **

Ah well, never mind.

Ask Sir Alexander Floyd. He would know!




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Did you hear the one about the little girl who knew how to spell 'Banana', but didn't know when to stop?
 
[Dead Rising zombrex]
You stop that before I start wondering if the Dead Rising outbreak would be an improvement over the 'Rona. At least then, it'd be genuinely dangerous, which means I'd either be dead or a mindless husk that may or may not be able to feel pain. Either way, I wouldn't have to think about what to do tomorrow in this awful Terraria world or care about what my Terrarian government does.
 
In my department every single person who believes in the vaccines safety (unquestioningly) and the efficacy of lockdowns/mask ordinances doesn't wear their masks. They are worse about than me, because I take more care with it just so I don't get into trouble.

Fuck these hypocrites. Fuck off and die of vaccine tumors.
 
2 things
1st yes , your are in a database everywhere when you get the vaccine.
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2. again reason why company names are deleted off reports
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A mother has claimed her legs erupted into painful blood-filled blisters that 'merged together' after receiving AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine.
Sarah Beuckmann, from Glasgow, said she suffered flu-like symptoms after getting her first dose in mid-March — a very common side-effect. But the 34-year-old began to feel a tingling sensation in her legs just a week later and noticed a rash flaring up around her ankles.
She called the GP to arrange an appointment that morning, but by the afternoon her skin was already breaking out into blisters.
The mother-of-one was rushed to Queen Elizabeth University Hospital, and claimed at one point she feared her legs might have to be amputated.
Ms Beuckmann spent 16 days in hospital, with blisters also appearing on her hands, face, arms and bottom. She was discharged to recover at home but is wheelchair-bound because she struggles to walk due to the bandages on her legs and blisters on the soles of her feet.
British skin experts told MailOnline it appeared she had suffered an extremely rare reaction to the vaccine.
Ms Beuckmann urged Britons to come forward to get the vaccine, revealing she told her story to raise awareness — 'not to scare people'. Her doctor has advised that she shouldn't get her second dose because of her reaction.
It is not clear why Ms Beuckmann, who works in retail, was invited for a vaccine as Scotland's roll-out is still mopping up over-50s.
But jabs are available to those who are considered at risk from the virus, or live with someone classed as vulnerable.
More than 33million Britons — or three in five adults — have already received at least one dose of a vaccine.
At least 20million have had AstraZeneca's jab — which drug regulators say causes a rash in 1 per cent of cases. Rashes tend to go away on their own within a week.
Ms Beuckmann told the Daily Record that her rash started just around her ankles — prompting her to ring her GP, who asked to see her.
As the day progressed, her rash became worse and she asked her husband to take her to A&E. Doctors flagged that she had a high heart rate and carried out further tests.
In an attempt to work out what triggered the rash, medics also carried out tests for HIV, herpes and other skin conditions — but the results all came back negative.
Doctors eventually decided the vaccine caused her rare reaction after carrying out two biopsies, the Scottish newspaper reported.
Ms Beuckmann was then given steroids to calm her immune system down and stop the reaction. She said the drugs — which weren't named — are 'helping'.
Speaking about her concern when she was admitted, she said: 'At one point I was sitting there thinking "Am I going to have my legs amputated?" because I didn't know what was going on and obviously this is new to the hospital staff as well.
'For the first eight or nine days I was on quite a bit of morphine but I started to gradually come off the stronger stuff.
'They are starting to heal and they're looking a lot better than they were but as the blisters started to get worse, they all sort of merged together.
'I'm currently using a wheelchair as well just because I can't walk with my legs getting bandaged up every day and the blisters on the soles of my feet.'
Ms Beuckmann also praised the doctors and nurses at the hospital for their efforts, and said despite her condition she thinks everyone should get the jab.
'I'm still not an anti-vaxxer or anything, even now, but I'm not allowed to get the second dose to be on the safe side,' she said.
'I just want people to be aware that there are some reactions that can occur and not to ignore any rashes.
'It's not to scare people but just in case this does happen to anybody else, it means they're going to get the treatment straight away.'
Dr Emma Wedgeworth, a consultant dermatologist and spokeswoman at the British Skin Foundation, said Ms Beuckmann had likely suffered a reaction to the jab.
'Vaccines are designed to activate the immune system,' she told MailOnline.
'Occasionally people will have quite dramatic activation of their immune systems which, as happened in this case, can manifest in their skin.
'This poor lady had a very severe reaction, which thankfully is extremely rare.'
She added: 'While vaccines can cause, usually mild reactions, we know that Covid-19 can fairly commonly cause significant changes in the skin and throughout the body and can be life threatening.
'I would therefore urge people to continue to have the Covid vaccine and to be vigilant about any side effects.'
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My dad had a health scare today, 3 days after his first round of Moderna. He drove to the ER with severe flu-like symptoms and a migraine so bad he could barely function. He got released a few hours ago and got sent home with meds and an iv. His CAT scan turned up nothing and he tested negative for COVID so I'm absolutely positive it's the jab.

Nothing has reinforced my decision not to get it more than that. I was genuinely afraid I'd lose my father today and spent the whole day praying. I was on the fence before and considered Moderna the safest one. Nah, fuck that.
 
I heard some reports of people "catching" vaccine from being around the vaccinated. I dismissed that as impossible at first, but then I did have a thought. So, the mRNA they say degrades quickly, after producing spike proteins, but how long would the spike proteins themselves last? You don't have antibodies to destroy them for about two weeks. Do they stick around for that time, or would they be prone to degradation? Do they have any mechanism to replicate? I know prions can make other proteins take their defective shape on...what if they could make more of themselves out of other protein.

They are how covid connects to cells to inject its DNA... RNA, what have you. Just imagine a world where nature found a way and the spike proteins are self-replicating micro viruses that then escape via coughing, vomiting and diarrhea. I'm not saying they did that, I just want you to envision that world; Where science creates an airborne prion disease to stop flu 2.0.

I mean, even if they aren't reproducing, they are probably out binding to your ACE2 receptors like they would if they were on a coronavirus. Probably does mess up those cells too, which is why the shot symptoms replicate the worst of covid ones.
 
thinking about it, I assume it's a coincidence, but I popped shingles around when the vax started going around even though I still haven't gotten the shot
I was pretty surprised because I don't recall ever having chickenpox
 
Covid: Government scientist warns of summer surge in cases
The UK is likely to see a "summer surge" in Covid cases as lockdown is relaxed, a government scientist says.
Prof Adam Finn, of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, says modelling points to a rise in cases, as many adults are not immunised.
He said the UK was still "vulnerable" and the dates for easing restrictions may need adjusting.
The PM has said there is nothing in the data to suggest the next step in easing lockdown cannot go ahead as planned.
But Boris Johnson said that most scientists were "firmly of the view" that there would be a third wave of the virus at some point this year.
For the first time since September, UK government figures showed fewer than 2,000 Covid patients in hospital on Tuesday. There are 2,004 people in hospital according to Wednesday's figures.
More than 10.7 million people in the UK have had two doses of the vaccine. It means that one in five UK adults are fully vaccinated.

Prof Finn, from the University of Bristol, told BBC Breakfast the prime minister was right that the UK will see a further wave of Covid-19 cases.
"The models that we've seen on JCVI clearly point to a summer surge in cases as the lockdown is relaxed, because there are still many people in the adult population who've not been immunised," he said.
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Talk of a new wave is alarming given what the UK has been through this winter - and what other countries are facing now.
A rise in infections is sadly inevitable, but that does not mean it will be as devastating as it was in January.
The vaccination programme should see to that.
But that does not mean we should be complacent. Significant numbers remain unvaccinated and despite how good the vaccines are, they will not work for everyone. There is also the impact of new variants to contend with - although the significance of these is still unknown.
Some models suggest there could be in excess of 100,000 deaths over the coming year or so. But others say it may be no worse than a bad flu season with around 30,000 deaths.
When the next wave will come is also not clear. Eventually it is expected the virus will become seasonal like flu. But that cannot be a given for this year - hence the summer warnings.
It's why government scientists are insisting we move forward carefully.
But why in the long-run we can learn to live with Covid.
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Prof Finn said there was "quite a wide range of uncertainty" over how big the wave would be "because it depends on how quickly the vaccine rollout continues" as well as how many people come forward for vaccination.
It also depends on how people behave as the lockdown is gradually relaxed, he said.
"If people move too far forward with that too fast, we'll see things start to come up earlier," Prof Finn said.
"The sense that the problem is all over, I'm afraid is a flawed one, we're still in a vulnerable situation, and there are still significant numbers of people who potentially could be harmed by this infection if this happens."
Chart shows number of patients in hospital is falling

In England, the next relaxation of lockdown restrictions is due no earlier than 17 May, when it's hoped people can meet in groups of up to 30 outdoors and six people or two households can meet indoors.
Further steps to relax rules in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are taking place this month.
When asked if dates for easing lockdown may need to be adjusted, Prof Finn said it was a "balancing act".
"I think if we do start to see significant rises in cases in some parts of the country, they may need to adjust back those dates in order to avoid the situation coming into effect," he said.
On Wednesday, a further 2,396 coronavirus cases were reported in the UK and another 22 people have died within 28 days of a positive test, according to government figures.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said the government is "on track" to offer a first dose of a coronavirus vaccine to all adults in the UK by the end of July.
People aged 45 and over are now being offered the vaccine in England and Scotland. In some areas of Wales 40 to 49-year-olds are being invited, while in Northern Ireland vaccine appointments are now being made available to a limited number of 35-39 year olds.

You would think after 1 year of this shit people would stop acting like tards but nope, good news vaxes are helping but will it stop a 3rd lockdown in UK, really depends how many people have a irrationally fear getting a jab/ wants to make this shit the new normal.

On a other note love the protests right now, people acting like they are not a hot spot of spreading any virus, like the fuckers who go to comic con and shocked they are ill after. They care about lives, but spread covid like it's nothing likely killing more people than the cops do in a year, really funny.
 
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