Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Übertroon]

Naw, I'm pretty sure that title goes to Rhodesia, all things considered.


Seriously though, it's interesting where I live as there's a fairly big Indian community, and a lot of the older people, those who originally came over here and settled, say that they wanted to leave India after the British withdrew because things became far worse. That's not to say it was "better" under the Brits, but it was worse after Independence. India is a failure all round, and that's a culmination of many factors. Partly the British occupation, but partly because of the culture of bribery, corruption, abysmal infrastructure and the caste system to name a very few.

I would say that what happened is the gap between the west and India widened considerably after independence. Sure, British Raj was never a industrialized power house, it was primarily a agrarian society where most of the population had no electricity or running water. But so goes for large parts of Europe.

But after the war development in even rural Europe skyrocketed, while India got a way slower development, with a culture of corruption and neglect where disasters became commonplace as infrastructure and industry began to deteriorate

 

[Autopsy]

Wasn't someone in this thread just the other day reassuring us plebes that despite the surge in VAERS data no *real* doctor is blaming any deaths or complications on the vaccines **scoffs in highbrow**

I guess this doctor isn't a real one

Yeah don't trust your gut on this one, the smart people will tell you if it's safe or not. There's a video going around on vidmax and leakedreality of service members answering if they are getting the vaccine, it's refreshing to watch

Heard you talking shit. Way to lie twice in one sentence thinking you wouldn't get caught, lol.
VAERS didn't catch HIT-like clotting, docs did. This is the reason J&J was paused and now has a warning, and why AZ was paused in Europe (which doesn't have VAERS or any VAERS like system AFAIK).
This has been known for weeks now and I discussed it multiple times, including @ you:

No, this will likely cause doctors to recommend vaccines other than JnJ (and probably AZ too obviously) out of abundance of caution. As it should, if these concerns are further verified.

Those are some good question, actually!

1. There is no purpose to doing so if the vaccines are more likely to cause harm than good. You need to define was "demonstrably" is, because the numbers have already run and there is no such thing for Pfizer/Moderna. It is the case that JNJ/AZ had a very rare HIT-like side effect currently being studied however, which is why the current medical topic of the day is not recommending/disallowing AZ/JNJ administration to the young (<40 years of age) based on these concerns. This is the system working as intended.

The only links to the CDC are on that page are:

1. the COVID vaccine tracker which merely provides the total number of people vaccinated,
2. the CDC reiterating that as of today zero causal link has been established between deaths and vaccines barring potentially JnJ/AZ

VAERS data is alarming when something unusual or above population norms is found. It hasn't, with exception to the HIT-like effects of AZ/JnJ, which weren't caught by VAERS (because no one in the US has had AZ/JnJ outside of trials)* but instead clinical investigations in Europe. HCP and researchers use it to investigate trends, not draw immediate conclusions.

*I didn't realize dosing with JnJ had already started is many states because everyone I know prefers and carries the mRNA alternatives, it's more accurate to say "fewer people," with the 8 million US doses of JnJ resulting in the 15 cases of HIT-like clotting discussed in that Fox video. Doesn't contradict my main point, which is that if you think "someone in this thread" was saying "no *real* doctor is blaming any deaths or complications on the vaccines," you are illiterate and/or a faggot.

I'll stop at 4 to keep it short for you.
The idea that JnJ may cause these HIT-like clotting events is not fringe science, and the video you linked is literally nothing but a validation that healthcare is doing its job. You have a doctor IN THE VIDEO establishing that, despite how rare it is, he views it as a tragic loss of life and demands further scrutiny. That is the normal thing to do. Medicine is pathologically life-obsessed, one avoidable patient death is too many, so if doctors have their way effective vaccines will be paused to save a dozen people out of a million, every single time. That's a good thing.
I'm sure everyone in this thread knows that, since they're watching vaccine side effects so closely.

Oh, and no documented case of HIT-like clotting has yet been observed with Pfizer/Moderna despite millions of doses out.
It'd be nice if you had the decency to be embarrassed.

 

[General Disarray]

Getting kinda creepy how hard they're pushing the jab. As I suspected, they are now paying people to get the vaccine.

West Virginia to give $100 savings bonds to residents under 35 who get vaccine​

West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice (R) announced on Monday that any West Virginian aged 16 to 35 who gets vaccinated will receive a $100 savings bond, in an effort to get more young residents inoculated.

The state, according to Justice, will use the money it received from the CARES Act, the COVID-19 relief package passed by Congress last March, to pay for the savings bonds.

Young West Virginia residents, according to Justice, are not being vaccinated “as fast as we’d like them to take them,” which is why he is spearheading the savings bond plan.

“If we really want to move the needle, we’ve got to get our younger people vaccinated,” he continued at a press briefing.

According to Justice, West Virginia has 380,000 residents ages 16 to 35.

West Virginia to give $100 savings bonds to residents under 35 who get vaccine

West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice (R) announced on Monday that any West Virginian age 16 to 35 who gets vaccinated will receive a $100 savings bond, in an effort to get more young residents inoculated.

thehill.com

https://archive.vn/wip/lq2VA

eta: didn't see the vaccine thread, will crosspost.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Also, it's a big fuck you to everybody who did their best to not catch the virus (= stuck to the rules) and now you're left with "well, should've been an idiot and got da coof. Enjoy your lockdown, motherfucker!"

I wish I caught the virus by now. I had a cold a few weeks ago and hoped I had a mild form of COVID-19, but I think it was just bad allergies caused by the arrival of spring. The United States is free enough that "he caught the virus, he doesn't need the vaccine" will be enough for some organizations and governments in the days to come.

Anyone with a healthy BMI under 40 and no pre-existing conditions should catch the virus rather than take the vaccine. Vaccine side effects are very rare, about the same as really bad cases of the virus, but long-term effects of the vaccine remain unknown while we know exactly what the disease does. It's just a nasty cold, the most recent emergence of a new coronavirus.

i remember hearing a story about how the indians tried to jew the brits. you see their was a cobra problem in india. the british decided to pay the indians money for any cobras they find and kill. simple enough. then the motherfuckin indians decided to jew the brits and started cobra farms. once they found out about it, they cancelled the program.

Gujaratis are the Jews of India, they're a fascinating culture. If you've ever heard the name "Patel" (they own hotels, fast food like Subway, etc.), that's a surname of a merchant caste (or a few IIRC) which are mostly Gujarati. They also immigrated to Africa and nowadays run most of Kenya. Idi Amin mass murdered them in Uganda though.

India is full of these weird castes, like one caste fled India because they were so hated and became the became the Gypsies, and another family from a merchant caste nowadays runs South Africa (Gupta family).

I would say that what happened is the gap between the west and India widened considerably after independence. Sure, British Raj was never a industrialized power house, it was primarily a agrarian society where most of the population had no electricity or running water. But so goes for large parts of Europe.

But after the war development in even rural Europe skyrocketed, while India got a way slower development, with a culture of corruption and neglect where disasters became commonplace as infrastructure and industry began to deteriorate

India followed a sort of socialism that hindered development for ages, but did allow India to fight diseases like smallpox and gain literacy. At least in theory. Some parts of India like Kerala excelled at this sort of socialism, like you'll see the "Kerala model" mentioned a lot, but other parts stagnated and ended up, well, India.

Kerala model is among the best for the Third World right now and how socialism can work, since modern Kerala trains a lot of doctors, has very high literacy, has low malnutrition, and has almost no population growth. Kerala was only outstripped by the best performing Indian states under a more capitalist model (like China) in the past 15-20 years.

 

[knobslobbin]

Heard you talking shit. Way to lie twice in one sentence thinking you wouldn't get caught, lol.
VAERS didn't catch HIT-like clotting, docs did. This is the reason J&J was paused and now has a warning, and why AZ was paused in Europe (which doesn't have VAERS or any VAERS like system AFAIK).
This has been known for weeks now and I discussed it multiple times, including @ you:

Jeebuz christ you can't see the forest for the trees. Never claimed that VAERS caught this instance. You need to chill the fuck out. Or keep pointing out unrelated minutia, I like to imagine you dress in a labcoat while furiously typing LOL

Are you going to have a tizzy every time someone explodes from a vaccine? Better buckle up there buttercup, you're in for a ride and now that you've decided to become the vaxxDefender on here don't be surprised if you get tagged in every vaxx oopsy from here on out.

Can we get at least 3 more paragraphs about how they don't have VAERS in the UK? LMAO

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Jeebuz christ you can't see the forest for the trees. Never claimed that VAERS caught this instance. You need to chill the fuck out. Or keep pointing out unrelated minutia, I like to imagine you dress in a labcoat while furiously typing LOL

Are you going to have a tizzy every time someone explodes from a vaccine? Better buckle up there buttercup, you're in for a ride and now that you've decided to become the vaxxDefender on here don't be surprised if you get tagged in every vaxx oopsy from here on out.

Can we get at least 3 more paragraphs about how they don't have VAERS in the UK? LMAO

Well no the UK doesn't have that, they have the MHRA Yellow Card Scheme, where patients, relatives of patients or clinical staff can report adverse effects to all medications, vaccines and so on. Autopsy is talking shite about something they know fuck all about on this issue, and just because the UK doesn't specifically have VAERS, doesn't mean there's not an alternative. If they put their cock down and stopped cooming over the vaccine for half an hour and looked into jack shit, they'd know that.


Edited to say: Given the UK only recently left the EU, I'd be willing to bet EU countries have an equivalent, as far as I'm aware, it was an EU mandate that meant we have the yellow card scheme. Just because it's not called exactly the same thing as the US version, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, cos quelle surprise, the USA isn't the world and things are done different in different places. Imagine my shock.

 

[knobslobbin]

Well no the UK doesn't have that, they have the MHRA Yellow Card Scheme, where patients, relatives of patients or clinical staff can report adverse effects to all medications, vaccines and so on. @Autopsy is talking shite about something they know fuck all about on this issue, and just because the UK doesn't specifically have VAERS, doesn't mean there's not an alternative. If they put their cock down and stopped cooming over the vaccine for half an hour and looked into jack shit, they'd know that.

My favorite part of the video was when the news woman reminded us that the vaccines are safe and they are still recommended for women to get while they pan over a fresh vaxxPotato. And then immediately followed by the doctor saying maybe women should get a different one, lol

Trust your betters people, only the doctors saying the right things count!

Remember, the same authorities & corporate media that have tripled down on masks (LOL) also are 100% for vaccines. https://twitter.com/milli_vanillii/status/1386867617508429825?s=20

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

My favorite part of the video was when the news woman reminded us that the vaccines are safe and they are still recommended for women to get while they pan over a fresh vaxxPotato. And then immediately followed by the doctor saying maybe women should get a different one, lol

Trust your betters people, only the doctors saying the right things count!

Journalists are basically doctors and scientists.
I know this because Journalists told me so.

 

[Hippopatumus]

Subscriber growth for r/covidvaccinated, a subreddit for people with side effects.

 

[Meriasek]

I guess the next trick to keep the incidence values up throughout the summer is to consider the increasing number of vaccinated people, or rather, the declining number of unvaccinated people. Because if 50% of the people are vaccinated, an incidence of 100 is actually an incidence of 200!!11
It will not be over until the skies are blackened by the soot of the pyres and the gasps of politicians as they're choking on the entrails of journalists fill every hour of the day. In Minecraft, of course.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

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Subscriber growth for r/covidvaccinated, a subreddit for people with side effects.

To be fair, I wouldn't use reddit as a source for much anything.
I mean shit, don't forget that this subreddit exists: https://www.reddit.com/r/covidlonghaulers/

Spoiler: Screenshot, because even I was surprised at just how retarded 2/3 top threads are

Additionally, how many of these redditmunchies are subscribing because they are having serious side effects (blood clots, miscarriage, excessive periods, severe skin blisters) and how many are just "oowwie my harm sore from shot plus I'm tired, halp its covid all over again!"

Don't get me wrong, I understand (and believe) that there are legitimate health side effects with these vaccines, the speed they were rushed out, and in the case of mRNA the novel methodology. But using reddit as a source of info is tenuous at best, and outright self-defeating at worst.

 

[Autopsy]

now that you've decided to become the vaxxDefender on here don't be surprised if you get tagged in every vaxx oopsy from here on out.

Can we get at least 3 more paragraphs about how they don't have VAERS in the UK? LMAO

You're delusional.

Autopsy is talking shite about something they know fuck all about on this issue, and just because the UK doesn't specifically have VAERS, doesn't mean there's not an alternative. If they put their cock down and stopped cooming over the vaccine for half an hour and looked into jack shit, they'd know that.

Edited to say: Given the UK only recently left the EU, I'd be willing to bet EU countries have an equivalent, as far as I'm aware, it was an EU mandate that meant we have the yellow card scheme. Just because it's not called exactly the same thing as the US version, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, cos quelle surprise, the USA isn't the world and things are done different in different places.

You didn't read my post, you are taking that lad's interpretation of it as gospel. Neither the UK nor the US used civilian-based adverse effect reporting or retrospective databases (like VAERS or MHRA Yellow Card) to catch the HIT-like adverse effects. They were dramatic and unusual enough to be reported to governing bodies directly. Them's the facts. I was poking fun at @knobslobbin's ongoing total ignorance on VAERS and assumption it was some worldwide vaccine reporting scheme.
Glad he thought your post was informational though, maybe we're getting somewhere after all

e: also, contrasting the UK and Europe (where the HIT-like adverse effects were first detected in AZ), EudraVigilance is not civilian reported as far as I'm aware. The charter says it collects data from clinical trials and hospitals. "AFAIK" in my last post being "as far as I know," because I don't speak German/French/etc. to check in depth.

 

[4AMPudding]

You're delusional.


You didn't read my post, you are taking that lad's interpretation of it as gospel. Neither the UK nor the US used civilian-based adverse effect reporting or retrospective databases (like VAERS or MHRA Yellow Card) to catch the HIT-like adverse effects. They were dramatic and unusual enough to be reported to governing bodies directly. Them's the facts. I was poking fun at @knobslobbin's ongoing total ignorance on VAERS and assumption it was some worldwide vaccine reporting scheme.
Glad he thought your post was informational though, maybe we're getting somewhere after all

I hope you realize you are making me want to not get the vaccine all that much more

 

[Autopsy]

I hope you realize you are making me want to not get the vaccine all that much more

If you make personal health decisions based on how buttfrustrated you are, then more power to you. People have the right to do whatever they want with their body.

 

[FatalTater]

I was out doing some yard work the other day and got winded pretty quickly. I guess I could blame damage from the virus or even the dreaded "Long Covid" but I decided that more realistically it's because I let myself get out of shape over the last 6-8 months.

In the future I wonder how many gym teachers are going to have to deal with parents telling them that their special snowflake can't do any activities because the kid was exposed to Covid and now can only sit, eat take out, and watch videos on the internet.

 

[Salubrious]

Getting kinda creepy how hard they're pushing the jab. As I suspected, they are now paying people to get the vaccine.

West Virginia to give $100 savings bonds to residents under 35 who get vaccine​

West Virginia to give $100 savings bonds to residents under 35 who get vaccine

West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice (R) announced on Monday that any West Virginian age 16 to 35 who gets vaccinated will receive a $100 savings bond, in an effort to get more young residents inoculated.

thehill.com

https://archive.vn/wip/lq2VA

eta: didn't see the vaccine thread, will crosspost.

Ok, if you need to PAY people to get the vaccine for a supposed deadly illness, something has gone horribly wrong somewhere.

 

[Hippopatumus]

To be fair, I wouldn't use reddit as a source for much anything.
I mean shit, don't forget that this subreddit exists: https://www.reddit.com/r/covidlonghaulers/

Additionally, how many of these redditmunchies are subscribing because they are having serious side effects (blood clots, miscarriage, excessive periods, severe skin blisters) and how many are just "oowwie my harm sore from shot plus I'm tired, halp its covid all over again!"

Don't get me wrong, I understand (and believe) that there are legitimate health side effects with these vaccines, the speed they were rushed out, and in the case of mRNA the novel methodology. But using reddit as a source of info is tenuous at best, and outright self-defeating at worst.

The subreddit has been on my radar for the last few weeks and what has surprised me is that alarming volume of severe, ongoing reactions.

I also note that visiting it on mobile gives me a 'THIS CONTENT IS NOT APPROVED BY REDDIT' warning on every page which I don't see on other subreddits of the same size, which makes for a pretty clear indicator that it's on reddit corp's radar and they intend to... deal with it.

The existence of the subreddit and post volume by themselves are not clear proof of anything but they are indicators trouble may be brewing.

Let's just say if r/joebiden had the same volume of posts before the election I never would have doubted his win.

 

[Autopsy]

I was out doing some yard work the other day and got winded pretty quickly. I guess I could blame damage from the virus or even the dreaded "Long Covid" but I decided that more realistically it's because I let myself get out of shape over the last 6-8 months.

In the future I wonder how many gym teachers are going to have to deal with parents telling them that their special snowflake can't do any activities because the kid was exposed to Covid and now can only sit, eat take out, and watch videos on the internet.

Mandatory PE has been the only exercise most children have gotten for ages now. Quarantine or not, the heat death of in-person schooling is pretty horrifying from a health perspective, you don't need to worry about the gym teachers if there's no gym. I anticipate this chronic inactivity killing more people than COVID directly in the decades to come, as they grow up fat and stupid and cardiovascularly deficient.
Educating parents on the need to exercise hasn't worked, and the school system is a shitty band-aid in the first place, what's even a good solution? Japan made waistline limits, Korea has mandatory armed service, and Vietnam doesn't have enough food to get fat, I don't see any of those approaches going over well in the US, the UK, or Europe.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

A coroner is calling bullshit on the way deaths are being reported.

Mayo coroner and solicitor Patrick O’Connor believes the recorded death figures for the illness “do not have a scientific basis”.

As of last Thursday, a total of 4,820 deaths related to Covid-19 have been recorded in Ireland.

But cases where Covid is recorded as the principal cause of death when a person is already terminally ill raise questions about the accuracy of the method of recording, said Mr O’Connor, who is public information officer for the Coroners Society of Ireland.

Mayo coroner questions Nphet’s figures for Covid deaths

Death figures reported by the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) at Covid-19 briefings “may be inaccurate”, a coroner has said.

www.independent.ie

 

[clusterfuckk]

250 fucking pounds at 5,3 at age 13 means her idiot parents killed her not Covid.

not that I doubt she was clearly obese, did it give her weight and height in the article? I didn’t see it and because the doctor didn’t want to reveal any existing health issues, I am pretty sure this is a ploy for money. I was just curious where you found the info on her weight/height