Dr. Rachel McKinnon / Dr. Veronica Ivy / Rhys McKinnon / Rachel Veronica McKinnon / Foxy Moxy / SportIsARight - failed out of a tenured job,man who competes in womens sports, gained like 100 lbs in 2022 (page 813), comically fell off bike before a race (page 830)

[Kosher Dill]

[any cuddly small woodland-type animal]

Not just any, foxes are a particularly strong sign of "HERE BE FURRIES". (And if it's a fennec fox, the meter goes straight to 100%.)

why does Rees never account for the difference in male Q angle? This does not change over the course of "transition" and why doesn't women's cycling just use this to exclude males for the cheats they are?

It's been hard enough to get any sort of scientific studies done as it is. The reason frauds like our good ex-doctor have gotten away with cheating for so long is because transgenderism, especially in athletics, is such an uncommon and poorly-studied phenomenon. Opportunists like Rhys were able to hang their hats on the few junk-science papers out there that seemed to come to a convenient conclusion. It's only very recently that more rigorous studies have been performed and published on the effects of testosterone (or lack thereof).
If they start examining Q angle they'll be back to square one at this point.

 

[Cycleye]

I had to make an account to tell you how much i loved this post. I know I shouldn't post a content free post myself. So to make up for it I'll ask, why does Rees never account for the difference in male Q angle? This does not change over the course of "transition" and why doesn't women's cycling just use this to exclude males for the cheats they are?

Not sure what you are getting at here. Two humans could have the same stance width but one has wider pelvis than the other. Typically a woman will have the wider pelvis and have hips where men are generally straight up and down. With all of the different chainsets with differing offsets(Q), pedals with different axle lengths and extenders that go between pedal and crank(to adjust for stance width) it doesn't matter how wide the pelvis is. There are a million different saddle widths now and even 3D printed custom saddles so all that area is taken care of.

eta: My last comment. Fit is taken care of now better than it ever has been, for women, BUT the vulva takes a battering for alot of long distance women cyclists and can get so bad an operation may be required to repair the damage. Search around and you will find a few high profile women talking about it. More should but understandably there are problems with doing that.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

As a total outsider to sports performance, anatomy, and those kinds of formal studies, there's something I haven't seen anybody call Rhys out on that strikes me as important. From what I've seen, world records in sports have a substantial performance difference between men and women. I'm sure how much varies by sport, but men have some advantage in pretty much all cases.

So... why? Now there have been plenty of people giving possible reasons in this topic, but what I mean is, that's the question RHYS needs to answer. And I've never seen him even try. He always talks about the things that DON'T make a difference, or things that might account for PART of the difference which are reduced as part of a sex change (testosterone). But he's never said "here's the thing(s) that makes the difference, here's why, here's how we know, and here's how it doesn't apply to transwomen".

As much as I hate the say "the burden of proof is on [side I disagree with]", but in this case it seems to be true. If Rhys wants to prove that transwomen don't have an advantage in sports, he's going to have to have a thorough explanation of the performance differences between cis men and women, and then explain WHY transition removes those differences.

I'm guessing he hasn't done this because the answer is "it doesn't".

 

[ScouseGobshite]

Not sure what you are getting at here. Two humans could have the same stance width but one has wider pelvis than the other. Typically a woman will have the wider pelvis and have hips where men are generally straight up and down. With all of the different chainsets with differing offsets(Q), pedals with different axle lengths and extenders that go between pedal and crank(to adjust for stance width) it doesn't matter how wide the pelvis is. There are a million different saddle widths now and even 3D printed custom saddles so all that area is taken care of.

eta: My last comment. Fit is taken care of now better than it ever has been, for women, BUT the vulva takes a battering for alot of long distance women cyclists and can get so bad an operation may be required to repair the damage. Search around and you will find a few high profile women talking about it. More should but understandably there are problems with doing that.

Sorry if this is a squirmy question, but if bio female ‘external’ genitals can get battered to the point of needing surgery as a result of long-distance cycling (which I’m absolutely sure you’re right about, also AAAAARGH) - how in the hell does a troon, with a stinkditch and a gristly mash-up of fake clit & labia made out of recovered man-meat, ever manage to stay on a competitive bike for more than five minutes? At least the genitals you’re born with are generally sturdy, no scar tissue or stitch seams etc. We all know what a squalid, infected, suppurating mess fake female bits are. I just can’t grok how troon cyclists don’t reduce all that high-end Thai surgery to a gusset full of mincemeat after the first three laps.

 

[Positron]

why does Rees never account for the difference in male Q angle?

Biology don't real. Everything is a spectrum because you can find a rare man with a larger Q-angle than most women, or a rare woman with a smaller Q than the average men. In disorders that affect connective tissues, like Marfan's syndrome, the Q-angle can change. Where's my PhD in Troonology?

Rhys's interview is boring, except the opening bit about "the non-existent rights of cis women and girls", very spergy and very scripted.

Nancy Hogshead-Makar just dismissed Rhys's assertion that endogenous T has absolutely no effect on sports performance -- yet her assertion that there is no overlap between T-level between the sex is just not true. And, in pointing out Michael Phelps has but a minuscule higher T-level than his peers, she seems to infer that T is all it takes for sports excellence -- and that is, again, just not true. She also thinks males who had underwent a certain period of cross-sex hormones should be eligible for female events.


His green card, driving license, etc say "F", and that is exactly what makes him female. Step up your game transphobe!

 

[Kosher Dill]

there's something I haven't seen anybody call Rhys out on that strikes me as important. From what I've seen, world records in sports have a substantial performance difference between men and women. I'm sure how much varies by sport, but men have some advantage in pretty much all cases.

So... why?

Oh, but someone did call him out on that: the nefarious Dr. Krasnoff said just that in his scathing performance review.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Oh, but someone did call him out on that: the nefarious Dr. Krasnoff said just that in his scathing performance review.

Ah, I probably should've actually read it then. Rhys generates a lot of milk and I missed that one.

 

[DemonicMustache]

Biology don't real. Everything is a spectrum because you can find a rare man with a larger Q-angle than most women, or a rare woman with a smaller Q than the average men. In disorders that affect connective tissues, like Marfan's syndrome, the Q-angle can change. Where's my PhD in Troonology?

Rhys's interview is boring, except the opening bit about "the non-existent rights of cis women and girls", very spergy and very scripted.

Nancy Hogshead-Makar just dismissed Rhys's assertion that endogenous T has absolutely no effect on sports performance -- yet her assertion that there is no overlap between T-level between the sex is just not true. And, in pointing out Michael Phelps has but a minuscule higher T-level than his peers, she seems to infer that T is all it takes for sports excellence -- and that is, again, just not true. She also thinks males who had underwent a certain period of cross-sex hormones should be eligible for female events.

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His green card, driving license, etc say "F", and that is exactly what makes him female. Step up your game transphobe!

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rant on/

Who in "society" denied you the abilityt o be a girl, Rhys? Who? I will tell you who - no one. No human-being, denied you the ability to be a girl. In fact, you've been privileged thus far to have been granted, by "society", the ability to live a nice middle-class existence. Despite being a fairly mediocre man, you were able to land a highly coveted tenure position as a PHILOSOPHER. Those jobs are as rare as diamonds, you nut.

You've been granted, again by "society," a surgery to remove your male testicles. And you survived. And you aren't living in some emperors court and guarding his sex slaves, you fool.

You've been allowed, yet AGAIN by "society," the ability to compete in woman's races in cycling.

You shameless furry! You were born with a pretty good hand, Rhys. You know why? You were born into an upper middle class family, raised by two parents, given a first-rate education, allowed to immigrate to the U.S. for a good job, and given the gift of having enough free time and spare cash to compete in a very expensive sport.

Rhys, society has denied you ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Society has absolutely, without a doubt, coddled you.

Now biology, however, has shortchanged you. Instead of tilting at the windmill of society, maybe you go about BIOLOGY. BIOLOGY obviously doesn't care about you enough to pretend your feelings matter.

/rant over

 

[Adult Female Athlete]

As a total outsider to sports performance, anatomy, and those kinds of formal studies, there's something I haven't seen anybody call Rhys out on that strikes me as important. From what I've seen, world records in sports have a substantial performance difference between men and women. I'm sure how much varies by sport, but men have some advantage in pretty much all cases.

So... why? Now there have been plenty of people giving possible reasons in this topic, but what I mean is, that's the question RHYS needs to answer. And I've never seen him even try. He always talks about the things that DON'T make a difference, or things that might account for PART of the difference which are reduced as part of a sex change (testosterone). But he's never said "here's the thing(s) that makes the difference, here's why, here's how we know, and here's how it doesn't apply to transwomen".

As much as I hate the say "the burden of proof is on [side I disagree with]", but in this case it seems to be true. If Rhys wants to prove that transwomen don't have an advantage in sports, he's going to have to have a thorough explanation of the performance differences between cis men and women, and then explain WHY transition removes those differences.

I'm guessing he hasn't done this because the answer is "it doesn't".

He has been asked varieties of this question and his usual answer is to blather something about socialization and female sports having less resources.

On the whole, female sports may have less support, but this disgustingly idiotic take is a slap in the face to elite female athletes who train just as hard as their male counterparts, in the same facilities, with elite-level coaches, who still cannot perform at the male level.

 

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!]

Oh, but someone did call him out on that: the nefarious Dr. Krasnoff said just that in his scathing performance review.

Krasnoff's job is to keep his department functional. He let a single bad apple turn it into a dumpster fire. What could have been done to prevent this mess is frankly irrelevant. It was his responsibility as department chair to make sure that didn't happen. By the end, he let a newly tenured professor (whose tenure he did not object to when given the opportunity) take a full paid year off with nothing to show for it but a Twitter fight with a teenage girl who now may well have grounds to sue the college. I recognize that he gave Rhys a bad review but that clearly wasn't enough. I don't know how his time as department chair can be seen as anything other than a colossal failure.

 

[Kosher Salt]

So... why? Now there have been plenty of people giving possible reasons in this topic, but what I mean is, that's the question RHYS needs to answer. And I've never seen him even try. He always talks about the things that DON'T make a difference, or things that might account for PART of the difference which are reduced as part of a sex change (testosterone). But he's never said "here's the thing(s) that makes the difference, here's why, here's how we know, and here's how it doesn't apply to transwomen".

He's answered it, it's that female athletes need to "try harder."

 

[Next Task]

Rhys just gets to add "former" to the front of all that bullshit so he can continue getting asspats from the troon friendly state-run Canadian media every time they need to dig up some vaguely intelligent sounding (on paper) tranny to defend men sliding into women's sports for some cheap thrillz. He'll fade away after he commits one embarrassment too many but how many is too many is the question because God knows he's got long (fat) history of them.

Like Brianna Wu, who is always referred to as having run for congress rather than what she actually did, which was not even really try to unseat a solid Democratic incumbent in one primary, Rhys is going to have that 'former' forgotten just as much as he'll have it remembered, and it's in his benefit to never correct them. He'll certainly be the sort to demand to be referred to as a Dr. - that's a given. But there's something about troons that make the media allow them to embellish their accomplishments and pretend they are both all real and all current, rather than the truth.

Almost as if there's benefits to being a troon rather than them being the most oppressed people on earth. Also, almost as if you start referring to an MtF troon as a 'former' something, you won't remember to stop before 'man'.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Edit: LMAO the interviewer makes sure to reference Rhys' ~world championship~ in the sign-off but not Nancy's fucking Olympic medals. Hmmmmmmm

They hate women

 

[Surfin Terf]

Radio show with Rhys. Starts at 47 minutes.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-april-27-2021-1.6003437

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Nancy Hogshead-Makar has 3 gold and 1 silver medals in swimming from the 84 olympics.

But Veronica, I seem to recall from your CNN segment that you said that endogenous testosterone had no impact whatsoever on athletic performance. You made no distinction between cis or trans men or women.

But you did argue that the reason that cis men are typically out competing cis women is because male children are encouraged to be sporty and athletic in a way that female children aren't. But wouldn't that mean that trans women who didn't come out as children would still have the exact same advantage as those cis men? Veronica? Can you please explain this?

 

[artilleryfroth]

But Veronica, I seem to recall from your CNN segment that you said that endogenous testosterone had no impact whatsoever on athletic performance. You made no distinction between cis or trans men or women.

But you did argue that the reason that cis men are typically out competing cis women is because male children are encouraged to be sporty and athletic in a way that female children aren't. But wouldn't that mean that trans women who didn't come out as children would still have the exact same advantage as those cis men? Veronica? Can you please explain this?

I have no doubt he’d say “blah blah the socialisation didn’t work on me because I deep down knew I was female” or something equally dense. He’s not very bright.

 

[Mr Snoid]

 

[Cycleye]

Sorry if this is a squirmy question, but if bio female ‘external’ genitals can get battered to the point of needing surgery as a result of long-distance cycling (which I’m absolutely sure you’re right about, also AAAAARGH) - how in the hell does a troon, with a stinkditch and a gristly mash-up of fake clit & labia made out of recovered man-meat, ever manage to stay on a competitive bike for more than five minutes? At least the genitals you’re born with are generally sturdy, no scar tissue or stitch seams etc. We all know what a squalid, infected, suppurating mess fake female bits are. I just can’t grok how troon cyclists don’t reduce all that high-end Thai surgery to a gusset full of mincemeat after the first three laps.

The ditch is not in the same place so wouldn't get as much of a battering, so a few laps or an hours crit would not be much of an issue(if everything is healed up!) BUT there is no way on gods earth will you find a MtF with ditch competing in elite womens cycling with a full calendar of classics, semi-classics and tours.
Keeping infection, pubic hair, saddle sores etc under control is a mission in itself( a bit for men and ALOT for women) so a ditch would be totally unmanageable. Like i say; as long as things have healed up and there isn't a rampant infection a thin line could be cycled upon and doing a bit of track cycling(short events), crits, and cyclocross could be manageable. Just.

 

[JP's_Canadian_Cider]

The ditch is not in the same place so wouldn't get as much of a battering, so a few laps or an hours crit would not be much of an issue(if everything is healed up!) BUT there is no way on gods earth will you find a MtF with ditch competing in elite womens cycling with a full calendar of classics, semi-classics and tours.
Keeping infection, pubic hair, saddle sores etc under control is a mission in itself( a bit for men and ALOT for women) so a ditch would be totally unmanageable. Like i say; as long as things have healed up and there isn't a rampant infection a thin line could be cycled upon and doing a bit of track cycling(short events), crits, and cyclocross could be manageable. Just.

Cobblestone. Imagine having an open wound in your crotch while competing in Ronde van Vlaanderen.

 

[Cycleye]

Cobblestone. Imagine having an open wound in your crotch while competing in Ronde van Vlaanderen.

De Ronde is going to be a walk in the park compared to Roubaix. Cancelled last year and postponed till autumn this year and will be damn hard for the women. There are plenty of female specific saddles out there, which almost help, but if the women get thier Sunday in Hell(great film- watch if you are interested in cycling) each year I can see way more development going into suspension seatposts and saddles.

 

[JP's_Canadian_Cider]

De Ronde is going to be a walk in the park compared to Roubaix. Cancelled last year and postponed till autumn this year and will be damn hard for the women. There are plenty of female specific saddles out there, which almost help, but if the women get thier Sunday in Hell(great film- watch if you are interested in cycling) each year I can see way more development going into suspension seatposts and saddles.

Anything is a walk in the park compared to the hell in the north. Imagine the good doctor joining up. It would be absolutely spectacular to see him getting a nice fat serving of reality. As you have pointed out earlier, track is much more comfortable than road cycling. And Roubaix is maybe the least forgiving out of all the large races.

Hell, just the fact that you are on a hard surface means a lot. Just listen to Tom Pidcock. He mentioned after unregistering from Liege - Bastogne - Liege that he was taken aback after his fall in, was it Amstel or Fleche Wallonne? Even a cyclocross rider, which is not for the faint hearted, don't really expect just how painful it is to hit the pavement going 50 km/h. The doc wouldn't survive. Not even his hate for women would be enough to motivate him.