General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[RiverBear]

Wait why is this blowing up now? I thought it was a newer stream but this was last Christmas.

Fuck me for being confused about what to feel about an undead girl though.

4chan tourists is my best bet

4chan has been talking about this one for months now.

 

[SparklingWaves]

Alright, start placing bets for the zombiedoomposting. Will the zombie get hit with a streaming ban, no ban but loss of revenue as punishment, ultimatum that whatever relationship she has has to end, a forced graduation, or nothing will happen.

I got 5 on streaming ban

Nothing will happen. ID are mainly watched by Indogs and Westerners and neither of those care about yabs as much as JP schizos.
I don't personally mind the fact she has a boyfriend, I am just annoyed by how unprofessional and frankly stupid it is of her to do something like that on stream. She is one of the rare vtubers I enjoy watching and it'd suck to have her retire or go on hiatus because of purityfags.

I really don't get it either. Are people bitching about a 4 month old stream suddenly? Or are the virgins mad because they think someone is fingerblasting Ollie and it isn't them.

Probably the latter.

Oh so she does have a previous career as a VTuber? TIL. I thought only Reine was doxxed out of the ID Gen 2

Yeah:

Spoiler: Links to Akuma Momo / Jaret streams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku5jjYlByM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVE8DoL8io

 

[augment]

I can't wait for this. In her last singing stream she sung some spanish songs, someone posted "el sueno de Yagoo es muerte!" or something and it was freaking funny as hell. If Nene GTR can get along with the spain bros I'm sure Coco, who's survived the chinkocalipse, will do just fine.

 

[AkioDayo]

4chan tourists is my best bet

4chan has been talking about this one for months now.

Good thing I've stopped visiting 4chan. It feels like I'm having a schizo just from reading the threads

Nothing will happen. ID are mainly watched by Indogs and Westerners and neither of those care about yabs as much as JP schizos.
I don't personally mind the fact she has a boyfriend, I am just annoyed by how unprofessional and frankly stupid it is of her to do something like that on stream. She is one of the rare vtubers I enjoy watching and it'd suck to have her retire or go on hiatus because of purityfags.



Probably the latter.



Yeah:

Spoiler: Links to Akuma Momo / Jaret streams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku5jjYlByM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVE8DoL8io

I do not really care either way, even if she has a boyfriend or not, or if she did it on stream or not (would be pretty entertaining if she did), but as it stands I don't buy it. As I said before, if that's what happened she would've nuked that stream pretty quick.

 

[SparklingWaves]

I can't wait for this. In her last singing stream she sung some spanish songs, someone posted "el sueno de Yagoo es muerte!" or something and it was freaking funny as hell. If Nene GTR can get along with the spain bros I'm sure Coco, who's survided the chinkocalipse, will do just fine.

Wasn't there another holo with a Spanish learning stream coming this week? Interesting.

 

[Airless]

Alright, start placing bets for the zombiedoomposting. Will the zombie get hit with a streaming ban, no ban but loss of revenue as punishment, ultimatum that whatever relationship she has has to end, a forced graduation, or nothing will happen.

I got 5 on streaming ban

I'll put 5 on nothing happening. As long as she doesn't try and throw Cover under the bus and continues to just ignore it there's still going to be at least a little plausible deniability to work with. And that's assuming the rrat is even real.

I really don't get it either. Are people bitching about a 4 month old stream suddenly? Or are the virgins mad because they think someone is fingerblasting Ollie and it isn't them.

What do you think?

I can't wait for this. In her last singing stream she sung some spanish songs, someone posted "el sueno de Yagoo es muerte!" or something and it was freaking funny as hell. If Nene GTR can get along with the spain bros I'm sure Coco, who's survided the chinkocalipse, will do just fine.

Maybe this will be the beginning of an international "Fuck China" coalition

 

[Biobreak]

And here I thought Ollie's pretty doom-proof considering a lot of her antics have pretty much handwaved away as "endearing" or ignored as far as her fans are concerned. Seems a bit of the initial goodwill is eroding if this rrat is being pushed real hard. Just wondering why it took this long if it's from a stream a few months back.

I'll put 5 on nothing happening. As long as she doesn't try and throw Cover under the bus and continues to just ignore it there's still going to be at least a little plausible deniability to work with. And that's assuming the rrat is even real.

Her best plan of action is to just ignore the rrat and let it die. Even the slightest bit of acknowledgement is just gonna draw more attention to it. Right now it's all just easily written off as one of her followers having an autistic sperg-out over a nothingburger.

 

[Avokado]

Alright, start placing bets for the zombiedoomposting. Will the zombie get hit with a streaming ban, no ban but loss of revenue as punishment, ultimatum that whatever relationship she has has to end, a forced graduation, or nothing will happen.

I got 5 on streaming ban

Nothing will happen. ID are mainly watched by Indogs and Westerners and neither of those care about yabs as much as JP schizos.
I don't personally mind the fact she has a boyfriend, I am just annoyed by how unprofessional and frankly stupid it is of her to do something like that on stream. She is one of the rare vtubers I enjoy watching and it'd suck to have her retire or go on hiatus because of purityfags.

If the rrat gain traction in the local community, I doubt she will be cancelled over "idol culture" reason there. If she'd be cancelled there in ID, it will be over decency or religious reason.

 

[ZMOT]

Her best plan of action is to just ignore the rrat and let it die. Even the slightest bit of acknowledgement is just gonna draw more attention to it. Right now it's all just easily written off as one of her followers having an autistic sperg-out over a nothingburger.

if hair removal and ring fit adventure doesn't trigger people, who cares if she flicks her bean on stream (or gets flicked).

She is surprisingly not that black for Netflix. (Am I late on this?)

they're pandering to japanese, that pozzed shit doesn't fly there.
turns out money still reigns supreme.

/vt/ is a gold mine of autism mixed with dedication and horniness for semi real 2d waifus

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close and yet so far

 

[Banfrau]

I remember people mostly ignored the Ollie moans when it happened and just thought she was being weird. Ollie being Ollie etc. But when that Apex stream male voice (Jaret?) yab happened 2-3 months later, everyone connected the dots to the moans and the rratposting began. She can't really delete the phasmophobia stream either, it'll just fuel the antis by confirming it was yab enough to be deleted.

Jaret fondling her while she was live is currently probably the only rrat I believe in. The sounds, the reactions of her gen mates, the unrelated comments and kisses. There's no way something wasn't going on.

She was together with Jaret during her Akuma Momo vtubing days so it's not unexpected she'd still be together with the lad. What's unexpected is doing that stuff on stream, did they really think people wouldn't notice?

what's the deal with that jaret guy anyway? i've seen him and the ID girls interacting a lot on twitter. Is he a ringleader of some sort? because i can't see any beneficial gain the girls would have by involving themselves that much with a guy with lesser following than them, so there's gotta be some catch to it.

 

[GerryBerry]

First time posting in here with a very clear burn account so take this with the fucking colossal pile of salt if you need to, but the recent doomposting about the zombie made me want to give a bit more info as a part of her Memberships. Use or disregard at your own leisure.

Every one of her members-only streams have devolved into a cry session (SC guilt session, depends on how cynical you wanna be, all her regular whales are there), about virtually fucking everything.

Wanted to be a VA so bad she seriously considered doing hentai if it meant she got a gig (she never elaborated if she did end up doing it).

She doesn't trust the regular chat/is emotionally driving a wedge between her members and them "you guys are the real ones I trust". She doesn't feel like she fits into Hololive. Has sited only Moona, Calli and Ame are those she feel she can reach - yes, I'm not forgetting Astel there either. Implies the rest of ID are distant (sounds more like they're just work colleagues and she's too retarded to see the difference between professionalism or personal, but again could just be emotionally charged). Cant really open up to them.

Feels like Matsuri and a lot of the JP girls are distant to her too, Matsuri only gives her short replies. Astel is too busy with his own work.

She tried for ID Gen 1, got ghosted. Came back, management surprised but gave her the time of day this time. Says she is suffering from insomnia, doesn't like 'streaming' Apex as it's hard to keep herself positive.

She explicitly referenced a rumour (didn't specify but I think we can all put two and two together given this past week). As of the latest Member stream, she said that it was distressing her, Moona and their manager, and she all but pointed to /vt/ by name. Moona has read the board recently. Both she and the manager advised Ollie don't.

Ollie has, as of that stream, told members she will be taking a break from all internet related activities, and is seeking some professional help in May. She said she was contractually obligated to a stream the end of the month, that seems like the World of Tanks promo. Whether she is actually going off because of her own health, or, as I'm sure the rrats going nuts rn will believe, it's because there is fire with this smoke, read into that what you will.

Part of me wants to believe she is legitimately overwhelmed with how things in s more professional setting are, she sounds genuinely sad that the whole agency isn't a big anime friend simulator, but who the fuck knows.

Again, no prior posting other than long lurking here, just you all don't seem to be in her membership so felt it'd be good for thought.

 

[AkioDayo]

what's the deal with that jaret guy anyway? i've seen him and the ID girls interacting a lot on twitter. Is he a ringleader of some sort? because i can't see any beneficial gain the girls would have by involving themselves that much with a guy with lesser following than them, so there's gotta be some catch to it.

Or you know, they're just friends. Not all relationships have to be romantic or for clout

 

[I am not here]

First time posting in here with a very clear burn account so take this with the fucking colossal pile of salt if you need to, but the recent doomposting about the zombie made me want to give a bit more info as a part of her Memberships. Use or disregard at your own leisure.

Every one of her members-only streams have devolved into a cry session (SC guilt session, depends on how cynical you wanna be, all her regular whales are there), about virtually fucking everything.

Wanted to be a VA so bad she seriously considered doing hentai if it meant she got a gig (she never elaborated if she did end up doing it).

She doesn't trust the regular chat/is emotionally driving a wedge between her members and them "you guys are the real ones I trust". She doesn't feel like she fits into Hololive. Has sited only Moona, Calli and Ame are those she feel she can reach - yes, I'm not forgetting Astel there either. Implies the rest of ID are distant (sounds more like they're just work colleagues and she's too retarded to see the difference between professionalism or personal, but again could just be emotionally charged). Cant really open up to them.

Feels like Matsuri and a lot of the JP girls are distant to her too, Matsuri only gives her short replies. Astel is too busy with his own work.

She tried for ID Gen 1, got ghosted. Came back, management surprised but gave her the time of day this time. Says she is suffering from insomnia, doesn't like 'streaming' Apex as it's hard to keep herself positive.

She explicitly referenced a rumour (didn't specify but I think we can all put two and two together given this past week). As of the latest Member stream, she said that it was distressing her, Moona and their manager, and she all but pointed to /vt/ by name. Moona has read the board recently. Both she and the manager advised Ollie don't.

Ollie has, as of that stream, told members she will be taking a break from all internet related activities, and is seeking some professional help in May. She said she was contractually obligated to a stream the end of the month, that seems like the World of Tanks promo. Whether she is actually going off because of her own health, or, as I'm sure the rrats going nuts rn will believe, it's because there is fire with this smoke, read into that what you will.

Part of me wants to believe she is legitimately overwhelmed with how things in s more professional setting are, she sounds genuinely sad that the whole agency isn't a big anime friend simulator, but who the fuck knows.

Again, no prior posting other than long lurking here, just you all don't seem to be in her membership so felt it'd be good for thought.

this was very informative. Actually, what's everyone's stance on talking about membership stuff? I know we've had some shares of Gura's, Ina's etc etc and I also know some sperg out because wE dIDnT PaY fOr iT.

EDIT: super retarded trash rrat: what if Jaret is the one controlling her, gaslighting etc etc hence why she feels like that?

 

[Pinot Pierrot]

First time posting in here with a very clear burn account so take this with the fucking colossal pile of salt if you need to, but the recent doomposting about the zombie made me want to give a bit more info as a part of her Memberships. Use or disregard at your own leisure.

Every one of her members-only streams have devolved into a cry session (SC guilt session, depends on how cynical you wanna be, all her regular whales are there), about virtually fucking everything.

Wanted to be a VA so bad she seriously considered doing hentai if it meant she got a gig (she never elaborated if she did end up doing it).

She doesn't trust the regular chat/is emotionally driving a wedge between her members and them "you guys are the real ones I trust". She doesn't feel like she fits into Hololive. Has sited only Moona, Calli and Ame are those she feel she can reach - yes, I'm not forgetting Astel there either. Implies the rest of ID are distant (sounds more like they're just work colleagues and she's too retarded to see the difference between professionalism or personal, but again could just be emotionally charged). Cant really open up to them.

Feels like Matsuri and a lot of the JP girls are distant to her too, Matsuri only gives her short replies. Astel is too busy with his own work.

She tried for ID Gen 1, got ghosted. Came back, management surprised but gave her the time of day this time. Says she is suffering from insomnia, doesn't like 'streaming' Apex as it's hard to keep herself positive.

She explicitly referenced a rumour (didn't specify but I think we can all put two and two together given this past week). As of the latest Member stream, she said that it was distressing her, Moona and their manager, and she all but pointed to /vt/ by name. Moona has read the board recently. Both she and the manager advised Ollie don't.

Ollie has, as of that stream, told members she will be taking a break from all internet related activities, and is seeking some professional help in May. She said she was contractually obligated to a stream the end of the month, that seems like the World of Tanks promo. Whether she is actually going off because of her own health, or, as I'm sure the rrats going nuts rn will believe, it's because there is fire with this smoke, read into that what you will.

Part of me wants to believe she is legitimately overwhelmed with how things in s more professional setting are, she sounds genuinely sad that the whole agency isn't a big anime friend simulator, but who the fuck knows.

Again, no prior posting other than long lurking here, just you all don't seem to be in her membership so felt it'd be good for thought.

A bubbly, hyperactive personality as a front for some emotional hang-ups, never heard of that one before.

Joking aside, if what you say is true, some time off the internet and a break from work will probably do her a lot of good. The energy for her high-volume persona had to run out eventually, needs some time to recharge. Maybe she also needs to start reaching out to the other IDs with off-collabs as a form of exercising trust.

this was very informative. Actually, what's everyone's stance on talking about membership stuff? I know we've had some shares of Gura's, Ina's etc etc and I also know some sperg out because wE dIDnT PaY fOr iT.

We talk about past lives and private details on a regular basis. And @Cubanodun (miss that dude, where is he?) was the one giving us updates of Gura's. Discussing membership streams is comparatively low on that particular totem pole.

 

[AkioDayo]

A bubbly, hyperactive personality as a front for some emotional hang-ups, never heard of that one before.

Joking aside, if what you say is true, some time off the internet and a break from work will probably do her a lot of good. The energy for her high-volume persona had to run out eventually, needs some time to recharge. Maybe she also needs to start reaching out to the other IDs with off-collabs as a form of exercising trust.

We talk about past lives and private details on a regular basis. And @Cubanodun (miss that dude, where is he?) was the one giving us updates of Gura's. Discussing membership streams is comparatively low on that particular totem pole.

The only problem with your last point is outside of the JP branch, managers seems to be more tight about who they can collab outside of Hololive. That, or non-JP talents are too scared of defying management for now.

 

[Pinot Pierrot]

The only problem with your last point is outside of the JP branch, managers seems to be more tight about who they can collab outside of Hololive. That, or non-JP talents are too scared of defying management for now.

I think just meeting up with the other Holo ID members in-person will be a good start. If Ollie lives with her family this whole time, then she probably didn't have the same experience living under the same roof as when Gen 1 did starting out, so she would naturally feel more distant in comparison to the relationship shared between Moona, Risu, and Iofi.

 

[SparklingWaves]

Seems a bit of the initial goodwill is eroding if this rrat is being pushed real hard. Just wondering why it took this long if it's from a stream a few months back.

It's not really being pushed outside of the chans. I would only worry if she started getting thousands of dislikes from rabid muslims.

A bubbly, hyperactive personality as a front for some emotional hang-ups, never heard of that one before.

I've heard Polka is/was similarly emotional in her member streams, is this true I wonder?

 

[GerryBerry]

this was very informative. Actually, what's everyone's stance on talking about membership stuff? I know we've had some shares of Gura's, Ina's etc etc and I also know some sperg out because wE dIDnT PaY fOr iT.

EDIT: super retarded trash rrat: what if Jaret is the one controlling her, gaslighting etc etc hence why she feels like that?

Yeah, she has mentioned Jaret in them, not surprising given they do have a history but she's never hinted at anything more than what you all know from this thread.

A bubbly, hyperactive personality as a front for some emotional hang-ups, never heard of that one before.

Joking aside, if what you say is true, some time off the internet and a break from work will probably do her a lot of good. Maybe she needs to start reaching out to the other IDs with off-collabs as a form of exercising trust.

We talk about past lives and private details on a regular basis. And @Cubanodun (miss that dude, where is he?) was the one giving us updates of Gura's. Discussing membership streams is comparatively low on that particular totem pole.

Same, and I do think it is more due to her cracking under the pressure - otherwise, the member streams have been a five week foreplay for the shitstorm people are trying to kick up, and I don't think she plans that far ahead. One of the main reasons I posted all that is because when she does go on break, the fingerbanging becomes legit in a lot of eyes - I know I'd buy it if I wasn't already aware she's falling apart and needed the break.

Edit:
FWIW I'm in a few memberships, can tell you all more if anything interesting ever gets said in them. Suisei's, Risu's, Ollie's, Ina's, Gura's, Calli's, Ame's, Nene's and Flare's. Ollie is by far the most open I've seen (tho tbf I know relatively fuck all moonspeak so who knows with the JPs, they never sound like their crying during watchalongs).

 

[Biobreak]

this was very informative. Actually, what's everyone's stance on talking about membership stuff? I know we've had some shares of Gura's, Ina's etc etc and I also know some sperg out because wE dIDnT PaY fOr iT.

It's fine. Other than the occasional doomposting and harmless slapfights & name-calling, this thread has served as a popular info dump on the highs and lows of vtubing scene with a lot of lurkers and refugees who just want to be able to talk about the scene/corpos/talents minus the everything-is-rainbows-hugbox of reddit or the weapons-grade autism of the chans. A lot of the info dropped here across the 1000+ pages also came from behind paywalls, so if you're gonna participate in the discussion, just give the goods and don't be coy about it (less you enjoy being called a faggot).

Re: Ollie's apparent breakdown, sounds like she just needs to disconnect and try to have a bit more of a normal non-online routine outside of vtubing. It's an all-too common occurrence with people who constantly live their life online with most of their interactions just being with other online personalities through discord/chat and the toxic-waste-dump-known-as-twitter.

She also being a former-fan-turned-online-personality is just having a rough awakening to the fact that Youtube and streaming in general can serve as an elaborate friendship simulator - ya gotta keep it professional right at the start and hey, if you eventually develop close friendship ties with your co-workers & collaborators eventually, that's well and good - but never mistake the fact that just because you're all under the same corpo badge means you're automatically friends. It's a rough jolt from being just a small-time indie who just collabs with her other online friends and now having to work with corpo talents who are happy-happy-joy-joy during the stream and then normally keep distant out of it.

 

[RiverBear]

She also being a former-fan-turned-online-personality is just having a rough awakening to the fact that Youtube and streaming in general can serve as an elaborate friendship simulator - ya gotta keep it professional right at the start and hey, if you eventually develop close friendship ties with your co-workers & collaborators eventually, that's well and good - but never mistake the fact that just because you're all under the same corpo badge means you're automatically friends. It's a rough jolt from being just a small-time indie who just collabs with her other online friends and now having to work with corpo talents who are happy-happy-joy-joy during the stream and then normally keep distant out of it.

Subaru's been in the same company for almost 2 years and even now, some of her actual genmates are still put off by her genki nature.

Ollie probably forgot most of the people who in Hololive are autistic introverts, and her personality doesn't exactly mesh well with them. She probably thought she'd be invited to groups and collabs just by nature of being in the same company, but real life doesn't work that way. I should know ):