Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Jarolleon]

I'm a healthy person under 40, why do I need this vaccine? If I take the vaccine, why do I need to wear a mask and maintain social distancing? This never happened with any vaccine I took as a kid almost 25 years ago, shit I remember my parents saying to me as a kid that because I had the chickenpox vaccine I would never, ever catch chickenpox and I was lucky because they caught it as a kid and even a few kids in my class in elementary school did because this was the 90s when the vaccine was first rolled out.

This is not a normal vaccine, so why am I supposed to treat it like one? If it is a good vaccine, then anyone who needs it like the elderly or other vulnerable people should and I can use my immune system. You know, like I do every year with the flu, since flu shots are a waste of time. If it's a bad vaccine, why should I take it?

The South has risen again thanks to the Chinese virus since Florida, Georgia, and to a lesser degree other Southern states like Tennessee have an approach that is somewhat closest to sanity in how they dealt with the "pandemic". Turns out when you don't/barely shutdown your state and even your dumb blue city mayors are lax in enforcing things, your state prospers and businesses relocate there. Red State America wins big here, and praise Red State American for the freedom they gave in a time of insanity. To be fair, they're facing invasion from California, New York, etc. because they have freedom and because the people from there almost never vote for sanity but it's still overall a Red State victory.

It makes environmental sense. The South is warmer and sometimes drier, which reduces the spread rate of the virus.

My employer has been going hard on incentivizing vaccinations with, wait for it, a one time four extra hours bonus on their paycheck! This is on top of the regular corporate brainwashing campaign encouraging employees to post I got vaccinated! style postcard social media style posts instead of work related shit.

And it's working, which is fucking disturbing as hell. It almost makes me want to go back to church regularly again because bah gawd at least that style of peer pressure brainwashing is easier to ignore in comparison.

Meanwhile Canada has a lineup for vaccinations so long that my 62 year old mother hasn't gotten hers yet (it's scheduled for this Saturday). People my age won't be allowed to sign up until the end of this month. I guess the free market really does do everything faster.

 

[Vecr]

It's not anything to do with the free market really, the US just funded/promised to buy all the vaccines pretty early last year, even the ones that failed.

 

[No. 7 cat]

this is clearly to entice fatty vaccine deniers.


prove it.


how do you make the leap from free processed food and shit beer to no taxes for 5 years

I personally don't think blood clots etc. are worth it. It doesn't seem positive to me.

Pat Sweeney who filmed Gardai entering Corpus Christi SSPX chapel to enforce COVID regs against Mass and other services, saw Gardaí come to his home at 3am, chase and take his two boys. They were placed with the horrible incompetents of TUSLA and are now with his estranged wife, with whom he shares custody. Ignored by the official media. Justin Barrett of the maligned, small National Party and his members were the only ones helping him.

http://overdeewall.com/2021/05/04/pat-sweeney-going-to-deliver-passports-for-his-children-to-keep-tusla-away/

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

It makes environmental sense. The South is warmer and sometimes drier, which reduces the spread rate of the virus.

Everyone goes inside in the summer in Florida, that's why Florida spiked in 2020 and will spike soon (await the news articles about Florida's scary "pandemic" and how Ron DeSantis is literally murdering thousands of people). To a lesser degree this is true elsewhere in the South since it's hellish in the summer. Diseases spread in the winter since people spend a lot of time inside and the air (and as we know about colds/SARS-esque diseases, the plumbing system!) recirculates pathogens. In the South this happens during warm weather. This isn't new either, tropical/subtropical areas have no seasonality to their disease outbreaks compared to temperate/arctic areas where disease is in the autumn/winter/early spring.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I have an eerie feeling then the tinfoil hat guys might be right with this one about the vaccine. https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/new-report-sheds-light-on-vaccine-doomsday-cult/ ( https://archive.ph/tqrZ8 )

“The risk-benefit calculus is therefore clear: the experimental vaccines are needless, ineffective and dangerous. Actors authorizing, coercing or administering experimental COVID-19 vaccination are exposing populations and patients to serious, unnecessary, and unjustified medical risks.” Doctors for Covid Ethics, April 29, 2021

An explosive new study by researchers at the prestigious Salk Institute casts doubt on the current crop of gene-based vaccines that may pose a grave risk to public health. The article, which is titled “The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness”, shows that SARS-CoV-2’s “distinctive ‘spike’ protein”..”damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease.” While the paper focuses strictly on Covid-related issues, it unavoidably raises questions about the new vaccines that contain billions of spike proteins that could greatly increase the chances of severe illness or death. Here’s an excerpt from the article dated April 30, 2021:

“In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls. (Note– “Vascular endothelial cells line the entire circulatory system, from the heart to the smallest capillaries.”)
The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented.
Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own.” (“The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness”, Salk.edu)

The new research paper is the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb. It changes everything by confirming what vaccine critics have been theorizing for months but were unable to prove.

Now there is solid evidence that:

1. Covid-19 is primarily a disease of the vascular system (The vascular system, also called the circulatory system, is made up of the vessels that carry blood and lymph through the body.) and not the respiratory system.
2. The main culprit is the spike protein. (Spike protein–“a glycoprotein that protrudes from the envelope of some viruses” Merriam-Webster “Like a key in a lock, these spike proteins fuse to receptors on the surface of cells, allowing the virus’s genetic code to invade the host cell, take over its machinery and replicate.” Bruce Lieberman)

Simply put, if Covid-19 is primarily a vascular disease and if the main instrument of physical damage is the spike protein, then why are we injecting people with billions of spike proteins?

Here’s how architect and author, Robin Monotti Graziadei, summed up these developments on you tube:

“So, we have been told for the last year, that the only role the spike protein was supposed to play was to enter the human cells. (But) It’s clear, that that is not what they do, (since) they give you illness, vascular illness. Vascular illness can have many manifestations. They can include sinus vein thrombosis, blood clots, bruising, and longer-term conditions. Do you think it’s a good idea to bypass the first (defenses) of your immune system, …and inject… trillions of spike proteins in your cells given the information that has just been released by the Salk Institute? Think about it….
Salk Institute researchers have told us –without any ambiguity– that the spike protein is a fundamental part of the Covid-19 disease. Yes, it’s true that the spike protein with the N-protein, will not replicate. However, trillions (of these proteins) induced by the vaccine injection have the capacity to create damage in your vascular system. This is what the study says and what has been published by an extremely important center for biological studies. This is not a conspiracy theory. I think, at this stage, there is enough information to consider whether we will be told the truth in the coming days, because such information should be on the cover of every newspaper and the top story on every news channel. And what they should say is this: “The fundamental and technological basis –on which all of the vaccines that were distributed in the West– is flawed. We thought that the spike protein would only enter the cells to create antibodies so if you faced the wild virus, it would not latch onto your cells, however, we were wrong. We were wrong because the spike protein in itself, creates disease, and if you inject trillions of them into a human body, there will be manifestations of disease in many cases.” It is not safe to inject trillions of spike proteins into a muscle, because it bypasses layers of your immune system which could have potentially neutralized the virus… By crossing the threshold of the human body through the injection of these compounds, you are not giving your immune system the chance to mount a strong enough response to the spike protein in order to neutralize it. (The vaccine) will have this disease-creating spike protein in it if you agree (to take) any of these vaccines. ….It is now up to us to try to fix the mistake they have made.” (Robin Monotti Graziadei on the new Salk Institute research paper, You Tube, –See it before it is removed)

Perfectly stated and right on the money. Graziadei extrapolates the hidden meaning of the Salk report and clarifies its significance. How are the public health officials, the politicians, the media and the rest of the pro-Covid Vaxx camp going to respond to these revelations especially with the imprimatur of the Salk Institute affixed to the front of the report? Will they try to sweep it under the rug or will they try to divert the public’s attention to the ‘variant’ hobgoblin? Or will they try something else entirely, like claim that one class of spike proteins are good for you while others lead to protracted illness and death? What will they do?

 

[Bosmadden]

I have an eerie feeling then the tinfoil hat guys might be right with this one about the vaccine. https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/new-report-sheds-light-on-vaccine-doomsday-cult/ ( https://archive.ph/tqrZ8 )

The fact that the spike protein, in of itself, is pathogenic, was conclusively proven last year. The vaccine makers claim that because the mRNA stimulates individual cells to manufacture the protein it remains cellularly bound, so there is no risk of micro clotting or other systemic responses. However, we know this isn't true as there are now thousands of confirmed examples of injury from systemic inflammation leading to clotting, including catastrophic embolitic and hemorrhagic strokes. Speaking of which

Patients Stricken By Vaccine Blood Clots Seek Payout From Government Fund - ZubuBrothers

Though they represent a tiny fraction of all patients who receive the various COVID-19 vaccines, those who have severe, even life-threatening, reactions

www.zububrothers.com

Though they represent a tiny fraction of all patients who receive the various COVID-19 vaccines, those who have severe, even life-threatening, reactions to the J&J COVID-19 jab face a difficult path to compensation since US law shields producers of the various COVID-19 vaccines from lawsuits.

As we all know if you end up a vaccine potato you will have no one to sue. This young girl has ended up a veg, but it's OK, a price worth paying to protect fat boomers from the coof

It starts with the story of Emma Burkey, who was hosptialized after having a seizure caused by blood clots in her brain. An ambulance took Burkey to the local southern Nevada hospital, where doctors realized her reaction was similar to others reported from the J&J shot

Emma's parents, along with hundreds of others, have been looking at getting some money from the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, a fund set up to pay off vaccine victims because they can't sue big pharma. But it's not looking good

However, the CDC insists that COVID-19 vaccinations aren’t eligible to be heard by the court

The CDC claims that the Covid shots cannot be heard in the vaccine court because they're not eligible. Let that percolate for a minute.

Definition of eligible

having the necessary qualities or satisfying the necessary conditions

So the CDC is stating that the Covid-19 vaccines do not have the qualities of and do not meet the conditions to be defined as vaccines, and they're right, they don't.

 

[Erich Raeder]

I have an eerie feeling then the tinfoil hat guys might be right with this one about the vaccine. https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/new-report-sheds-light-on-vaccine-doomsday-cult/ ( https://archive.ph/tqrZ8 )

Taking this at face value (and ignoring the fact that the spike proteins are not actually injected but created by the cells with the mRNA information, which may just be semantics) my question would be if it really does cause such pretty immediate damage, should this not already have caused a huge wave of people newly diagnosed with vascular diseases (or even excess death for that matter) in Israel?

Same argument for the "leaky vaccine" theory that more damage will ultimately be caused once most people are vaccinated because they are still infecting each other. Cases are also going down every day in Israel, you may make the point that there is always some fuckery involved in how these numbers are gathered but I would be very surprised if the trend wasn't real.

 

[Gehenna]

Taking this at face value (and ignoring the fact that the spike proteins are not actually injected but created by the cells with the mRNA information, which may just be semantics) my question would be if it really does cause such pretty immediate damage, should this not already have caused a huge wave of people newly diagnosed with vascular diseases (or even excess death for that matter) in Israel?

Same argument for the "leaky vaccine" theory that more damage will ultimately be caused once most people are vaccinated because they are still infecting each other. Cases are also going down every day in Israel, you may make the point that there is always some fuckery involved in how these numbers are gathered but I would be very surprised if the trend wasn't real.

It doesn't create vascular disease, it acts upon it and distresses the vascular system. Which would explain why the HIGHEST mortality group is those with existing heart conditions.

 

[Erich Raeder]

It doesn't create vascular disease, it acts upon it and distresses the vascular system. Which would explain why the HIGHEST mortality group is those with existing heart conditions.

Okay, but again I read from this that the negative effects of the vaccine have to at some point manifest as a measurable increase in deaths by these causes then, right? I’m aware of the deaths directly related to the vaccines but while I understand that it deters a lot of people from taking the risk it is also arguably so small that it may as well be statistical noise.

 

[Gehenna]

Okay, but again I read from this that the negative effects of the vaccine have to at some point manifest as a measurable increase in deaths by these causes then, right? I’m aware of the deaths directly related to the vaccines but while I understand that it deters a lot of people from taking the risk it is also arguably so small that it may as well be statistical noise.

Yes and no. Israel has one of the lowest rates of heart disease of every country, as in 180 out of 183. If the vaccine exacerbates heart disease leading to immediate issues... if the rates were already low then there isn't much to make worse. The rise in deaths or complications might be significant if compared year to year, but might also be masked by the rates being so low per capita it blends in with statistical noise.


So in the end, I WOULD like to see data from a country with higher heart disease, as Israel is uniquely bad to look at here.

 

[Bosmadden]

Taking this at face value (and ignoring the fact that the spike proteins are not actually injected but created by the cells with the mRNA information, which may just be semantics) my question would be if it really does cause such pretty immediate damage, should this not already have caused a huge wave of people newly diagnosed with vascular diseases (or even excess death for that matter) in Israel?

Same argument for the "leaky vaccine" theory that more damage will ultimately be caused once most people are vaccinated because they are still infecting each other. Cases are also going down every day in Israel, you may make the point that there is always some fuckery involved in how these numbers are gathered but I would be very surprised if the trend wasn't real.

Here's how it's supposed to work. You get the jab, whatever the carrier mechanism they all end up with the mRNA inducing your cells to produce the spike protein. The protein is degraded in the cytoplasm and the MCH1 expresses peptides on the surface of the cell that your immune system will recognize as foreign. There should be no unrestrained protein circulating that can cause systemic inflammation. In theory it's all perfectly safe.

In practice, we know that in susceptible individuals systemic inflammation is occurring leading to sometimes catastrophic injury. The mechanism that's causing this we don't know. It might be the immune system response is poorly understood and that apoptosis is causing the release of non-degraded spike protein. It might be something we haven't even thought of. If we'd spent more than say a few months researching and studying the effects....but not to be.

 

[NoReturn]

Guess who watched the entirety of Utopia 2013 S1 yesterday. That's right it was meeeee.

 

[ddw]

hollywood should go back and digitally put masks on all the faces in pre-2020 films and tv shows in all future releases

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Guess who watched the entirety of Utopia 2013 S1 yesterday. That's right it was meeeee.

Did you ever find out WHERE'S JESSICA HYDE?

 

[FatalTater]

Guess who watched the entirety of Utopia 2013 S1 yesterday. That's right it was meeeee.

Go watch 2014's reality show called Utopia. It would make a great teaching tool for why we don't want autonomous zones popping up.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

hollywood should go back and digitally put masks on all the faces in pre-2020 films and tv shows in all future releases

That will be 2022, when they declare it's a "permanent pandemic" and we must wear masks at all times lest our selfishness kill grandma. The face mask is quickly becoming the Western version of the Muslim hijab, where compliance to it is mandatory and anyone not wearing it is a dangerous wrongthinker. And just like the devout will spraypaint in hijabs for women on billboards and advertisements in Muslim countries like Pakistan (lest they give a bad example and teach that sexuality is okay), we must digitally alter crowds to be wearing facemasks lest they give a bad example that killing grandma is okay.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

Here's how it's supposed to work. You get the jab, whatever the carrier mechanism they all end up with the mRNA inducing your cells to produce the spike protein. The protein is degraded in the cytoplasm and the MCH1 expresses peptides on the surface of the cell that your immune system will recognize as foreign. There should be no unrestrained protein circulating that can cause systemic inflammation. In theory it's all perfectly safe.

In practice, we know that in susceptible individuals systemic inflammation is occurring leading to sometimes catastrophic injury. The mechanism that's causing this we don't know. It might be the immune system response is poorly understood and that apoptosis is causing the release of non-degraded spike protein. It might be something we haven't even thought of. If we'd spent more than say a few months researching and studying the effects....but not to be.

Good thing that Pfizer is pushing just be fully authorized by the FDA and given to kids as well. We wouldn't want any pesky caution or research slowing their $22 billion dollars in revenue on these "free" shots.

 

[knobslobbin]

Never forgive these companies that have zero respect for you. I will choose what PPE I need, I will not have it dictated to me by anyone.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

 

[ddw]

That will be 2022, when they declare it's a "permanent pandemic" and we must wear masks at all times lest our selfishness kill grandma. The face mask is quickly becoming the Western version of the Muslim hijab, where compliance to it is mandatory and anyone not wearing it is a dangerous wrongthinker. And just like the devout will spraypaint in hijabs for women on billboards and advertisements in Muslim countries like Pakistan (lest they give a bad example and teach that sexuality is okay), we must digitally alter crowds to be wearing facemasks lest they give a bad example that killing grandma is okay.

can't wait