Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Tombigbee]

I’m not sure if this was posted, it’s from Olly’s tumblr:

lmao
so I’ve very deliberately done this thing where I haven’t (and won’t) disclose any of my actual trans-related physical insecurities on the show, and the result is this very funny situation where transphobes keep trying to insult me on the basis of physical features that I’m actually really happy with, cause they’re just rummaging through a random grab-bag of insults that they think apply to all trans women! They have no idea what transition steps I’ve already taken or whether I have further plans; in public I only ever talk about my body as something I enjoy and am proud of, so they’ve got nothing to hit me with!
they’re like, “Nice HAIR” and I’m like, “Thanks, I love my hair lmao, it’s great! A lot of my cis women friends have said they’re jealous of it too!”
On a related note, being in hiding for so long was tough but the advantage is I built up a bedrock of self-confidence before I was exposed to the Internet’s harsh gaze

 

[fistfulloffeathers]

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Also found a terrible voice reel where he struggles through a range of accents:

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I was just about to post the same Imagen yeah, he basically did that face the whole time.

I’m not sure if this was posted, it’s from Olly’s tumblr:

lmao
!
they’re like, “Nice HAIR” and I’m like, “Thanks, I love my hair lmao, it’s great! A lot of my cis women friends have said they’re jealous of it too!”

Obviously the real women are jealous of the troon. Why do these troons always think women are jealous of them, also take note when some women say they are jealous they are being catty mate. "Like I'm so jealous" smirk

 

[Luna Mothews]

You really can’t please troons. They complain when women tell them “oh my god you do makeup/hair better than me!” And they complain when women don’t compliment them.

 

[LemongrassLighthouse]

Obviously the real women are jealous of the troon. Why do these troons always think women are jealous of them, also take note when some women say they are jealous they are being catty mate. "Like I'm so jealous" smirk

Women who actually like each other don’t complement each other like that. They just give normal complements without putting themselves down. Unless it’s like “You went to Jamaica for spring break? That’s awesome! I’m jealous, lol.” But that’s not a complement.

And most women (and people in general, I think) hate the “I’m jealous” fake complements because everyone knows they’re almost never genuine and they’re just awkward. Why does Olly thinks this is something worth bragging about?

If Olly is so unbothered by “haterz” and so confident, why make that Tumblr post at all?

Also, hasn’t Contra talked about how “hard it was to transition online”? That last paragraph feels like a dig at Contra, but I’m probably reading too much into that.

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

Ok, I’m out the other side of this shit show:

Why Abigail Thorn’s Coming Out Moved Me Personally

Abigail Thorn, aka Philosophy Tube, has come out as transgender, and her beautiful video moved and inspired me. Let me share why. ✔ SUPPORT ✔Patreon: https:/...

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Times are approx, bits in brackets are my commentary.

start: I was going to make a video about JK Rowling, but NO! Instead I am making one about Philosophy Tube (trying to cash in on some of Olly’s audience while he’s topical, obvs).

2.00: PT is one of my favourite youtubers, this was deeply moving, so here’s my unscripted rambling in front of a plain back background featuring lots of politician speech style hand gestures (the reassuring double handed ghost grip, mostly)

There’s an ACTOR playing the role of Philosophy Tube, gush, gush. Actual Philosophy Tube NEVER EXISTED, gush gush, always PLAYING A ROLE!

4.45: Abigail’s big entrance, ‘beautiful smile’, the smile of recognising your trans face (???)
Abigail looks ‘freaking amazing’ (I’d say ‘amazingly freaky’ but go on...)
Looks at camera and ‘devilishly smiles’

(I’ve started thinking about devilled eggs now because this man is boring as)

No hurty story, just relaxed, happy, JOY

6.00: trans narratives are PAIN and VICTIMHOOD (I wonder who writes those narratives? Hmmm?)
6.45: some waffle about BEAUTY, starts talking about self rather than Olly, ‘I don’t hate what I look like’ ‘most beautiful moment of my life’ ‘sweater dresses’ ‘beautiful, beautiful’

8.20: fake tears! ‘We are NOT victims’ ‘well, actually victimhood IS part of the trans experience’
8.50: ‘especially for TRANS PEOPLE OF COLOUR!’ (EVERYBODY DRINK!)
Black lesbian/shared experiences, lots of shared experiences especially between black people in America and people like me and Olly (white European AGPs???)
9.40: ‘Abigail’s words aren’t new, *I* said them already’
9.50: MARSHA P JOHNSON! (EVERYBODY DRINK!)
‘Who died fighting to say being trans was a beautiful thing’
(um, does this dude think Johnson died at Stonewall? That it was an actual battle???)

And Abigail is just reminding us!
Truly beautiful
More tears
MANY OTHER PEOPLE ALREADY SAID IT
Just a reminder, beautiful,
Beautiful, Beautiful
Being human is beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

11.00: I’m so confident now! what I say resonates with people who watch my videos, even though I’m weird and I worry that I have nothing new to say!
but Abigail reminded me that THERE ARE NO NEW STORIES, only new STORY TELLERS.

13.00: Victim, victim, beauty. ‘My trans feelings are like your non trans feelings’
something about Star Trek ‘universality of the specific’ (not convinced)
‘we’re all the same’
14.00: ‘beauty cuts across identity’ ‘lives are a story’ ‘we all have the same beginnings and ends’ ‘my specifics are Star Trek and Lord of the Rings and I’m sure those specifics resonate with you in different ways’ (he reminds me of watching LOTR with a particularly boring ex boyfriend but that’s all that ‘resonates’ here)

15.20: ‘What makes us unique makes us whole’ (AM HOLE??)

Direct message to Abigail
‘Thank you for sharing the gift of who you are’
And ‘
Thank you for sharing the gift of who you are with yourself too’

Black screen
Patroon credits.

(I wish I had one of those little clicker things that bouncers at nightclubs use to count the number of times he said ‘beautiful’ because it was repeated so many times I’m wondering if he was trying to hypnotise us? He said it A LOT)

The whole thing seemed to me to be a plausibly deniable way to be bitchy to Olly for his lack of originality. No sincerity in any of it. The fake tears made me tap my foot impatiently.

 

[esmeggs]

they’re like, “Nice HAIR” and I’m like, “Thanks, I love my hair lmao, it’s great! A lot of my cis women friends have said they’re jealous of it too!”

Olly don't even bother, we've seen you reacting to negative comments on your livestreams. You clearly have a fragile ego.

 

[Tombigbee]

cause they’re just rummaging through a random grab-bag of insults that they think apply to all trans women!

I hope he doesn’t really believe this. Olly, comments about your insane wingspan, shoulders, hands, head, JAW, forehead, feet, etc are not “random insults.” They are the byproduct of looking at you and seeing your obviously male features. Not all of them apply to all trans women, but they all apply to you. Sorry, babe.

 

[Clem Fandango]

I hope he doesn’t really believe this.

He doesn't. It's what he tells himself so he can sleep at night.

 

[deso2y]

the result is this very funny situation where transphobes keep trying to insult me on the basis of physical features that I’m actually really happy with,

Cope

cause they’re just rummaging through a random grab-bag of insults that they think apply to all trans women!

Seethe

They have no idea what transition steps I’ve already taken or whether I have further plans;

Dilate

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

Women who actually like each other don’t complement each other like that. They just give normal complements without putting themselves down. Unless it’s like “You went to Jamaica for spring break? That’s awesome! I’m jealous, lol.” But that’s not a complement.

And most women (and people in general, I think) hate the “I’m jealous” fake complements because everyone knows they’re almost never genuine and they’re just awkward. Why does Olly thinks this is something worth bragging about?

If Olly is so unbothered by “haterz” and so confident, why make that Tumblr post at all?

Also, hasn’t Contra talked about how “hard it was to transition online”? That last paragraph feels like a dig at Contra, but I’m probably reading too much into that.

People don't disclose true jealousy, in fact it's more likely people will act the complete opposite in order to try and hide it.

Edit: I know some of this has been pointed out before on Ollie's acting profile, but lol.

 

[northstar747]

So this former fat weeb mentioned olly

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So fucking deep

 

[Scarmaiden]

I’m not sure if this was posted, it’s from Olly’s tumblr:

Spoiler: Screenshot

“Nice HAIR” and I’m like, “Thanks, I love my hair lmao, it’s great! A lot of my cis women friends have said they’re jealous of it too!”

He does realize that someone complimenting you doesn't mean they're jealous, right? Most of the time people do it just to say something nice, in his case mostly out of pity. It's like when people say "you've got beautiful eyes" to an ugly person - it's the most basic compliment, one you can use even if you can't say "you're beautiful" bc you know no one will buy it

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

Or ‘You look so happy’

meaning, ‘wow, you got tubby!’

 

[Rekkington]

Spoiler: Screenshot

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He does realize that someone complimenting you doesn't mean they're jealous, right? Most of the time people do it just to say something nice, in his case mostly out of pity. It's like when people say "you've got beautiful eyes" to an ugly person - it's the most basic compliment, one you can use even if you can't say "you're beautiful" bc you know no one will buy it

Most real women understand that if another woman compliments their big breasts, it's probably cause they're fat. The worst part is fat girls have bought into it, and now men have to put up with all this totally unearned self confidence about these absolute trainwreck titties. Just go ahead and tell them you're jealous of their huge bulbous necks cause it means they can suck dicks better or something.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

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He does realize that someone complimenting you doesn't mean they're jealous, right? Most of the time people do it just to say something nice, in his case mostly out of pity. It's like when people say "you've got beautiful eyes" to an ugly person - it's the most basic compliment, one you can use even if you can't say "you're beautiful" bc you know no one will buy it

I imagine it's more like a "wow your hair is SO gorgeous, can I take a picture of it so I can show my friend Becky?" kind of thing with Olly.

 

[TemptationDuck]

Did Olly ever give an actual reason for why he waited so long to "come out"? Like, if it was really hell and you were dying or whatever the fuck, couldn't he have just put out a short video / Twitter post like "Hey everyone I'm trans, here is my new name and pronouns" and then if he still needed to make his masturbatory coming out video tack on a like "in-depth video about my identity will be coming soon!" at the end?

 

[Troonwhisperer]

Ok, I’m out the other side of this shit show:

Why Abigail Thorn’s Coming Out Moved Me Personally

Abigail Thorn, aka Philosophy Tube, has come out as transgender, and her beautiful video moved and inspired me. Let me share why. ✔ SUPPORT ✔Patreon: https:/...

youtu.be

Times are approx, bits in brackets are my commentary.

start: I was going to make a video about JK Rowling, but NO! Instead I am making one about Philosophy Tube (trying to cash in on some of Olly’s audience while he’s topical, obvs).

2.00: PT is one of my favourite youtubers, this was deeply moving, so here’s my unscripted rambling in front of a plain back background featuring lots of politician speech style hand gestures (the reassuring double handed ghost grip, mostly)

There’s an ACTOR playing the role of Philosophy Tube, gush, gush. Actual Philosophy Tube NEVER EXISTED, gush gush, always PLAYING A ROLE!

4.45: Abigail’s big entrance, ‘beautiful smile’, the smile of recognising your trans face (???)
Abigail looks ‘freaking amazing’ (I’d say ‘amazingly freaky’ but go on...)
Looks at camera and ‘devilishly smiles’

(I’ve started thinking about devilled eggs now because this man is boring as)

No hurty story, just relaxed, happy, JOY

6.00: trans narratives are PAIN and VICTIMHOOD (I wonder who writes those narratives? Hmmm?)
6.45: some waffle about BEAUTY, starts talking about self rather than Olly, ‘I don’t hate what I look like’ ‘most beautiful moment of my life’ ‘sweater dresses’ ‘beautiful, beautiful’

8.20: fake tears! ‘We are NOT victims’ ‘well, actually victimhood IS part of the trans experience’
8.50: ‘especially for TRANS PEOPLE OF COLOUR!’ (EVERYBODY DRINK!)
Black lesbian/shared experiences, lots of shared experiences especially between black people in America and people like me and Olly (white European AGPs???)
9.40: ‘Abigail’s words aren’t new, *I* said them already’
9.50: MARSHA P JOHNSON! (EVERYBODY DRINK!)
‘Who died fighting to say being trans was a beautiful thing’
(um, does this dude think Johnson died at Stonewall? That it was an actual battle???)

And Abigail is just reminding us!
Truly beautiful
More tears
MANY OTHER PEOPLE ALREADY SAID IT
Just a reminder, beautiful,
Beautiful, Beautiful
Being human is beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

11.00: I’m so confident now! what I say resonates with people who watch my videos, even though I’m weird and I worry that I have nothing new to say!
but Abigail reminded me that THERE ARE NO NEW STORIES, only new STORY TELLERS.

13.00: Victim, victim, beauty. ‘My trans feelings are like your non trans feelings’
something about Star Trek ‘universality of the specific’ (not convinced)
‘we’re all the same’
14.00: ‘beauty cuts across identity’ ‘lives are a story’ ‘we all have the same beginnings and ends’ ‘my specifics are Star Trek and Lord of the Rings and I’m sure those specifics resonate with you in different ways’ (he reminds me of watching LOTR with a particularly boring ex boyfriend but that’s all that ‘resonates’ here)

15.20: ‘What makes us unique makes us whole’ (AM HOLE??)

Direct message to Abigail
‘Thank you for sharing the gift of who you are’
And ‘
Thank you for sharing the gift of who you are with yourself too’

Black screen
Patroon credits.

(I wish I had one of those little clicker things that bouncers at nightclubs use to count the number of times he said ‘beautiful’ because it was repeated so many times I’m wondering if he was trying to hypnotise us? He said it A LOT)

The whole thing seemed to me to be a plausibly deniable way to be bitchy to Olly for his lack of originality. No sincerity in any of it. The fake tears made me tap my foot impatiently.

Thanks a lot! So the video was exactly the crap I imagined it to be Woke shits are really broken clocks now. Just two days ago somebody tried to explain to me how sexist jokes lead to rape as if we were in 2013 again.

Did Olly ever give an actual reason for why he waited so long to "come out"? Like, if it was really hell and you were dying or whatever the fuck, couldn't he have just put out a short video / Twitter post like "Hey everyone I'm trans, here is my new name and pronouns" and then if he still needed to make his masturbatory coming out video tack on a like "in-depth video about my identity will be coming soon!" at the end?

Not really, no. He was even accused of transphobia somewhere in October/November and even this wasn't enough for him to get out of the closet.

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

Was that when he made a joke about the presidential transition?

 

[Troonwhisperer]

Was that when he made a joke about the presidential transition?

Yes, exactly. He definitely was rather quiet around that time Some very evil people might even say that his troon identity was actually only coined in the new year of 2021 and not almost a year as Abighoul originally claimed. He did say that some people actually knew that he was already trans before he came out, but I'm not aware of any proof for it. And no, professional narcissist Lindsay Ellis doesn't count.
We also still don't know why Nyk doesn't want to talk about Abighoul anymore. I would think they had a falling out when both of them didn't want to talk about each other. But Abighoul actually wanted the attention of Nyk when he came out but Nyk just didn't react to it. Hence their falling out is one-sided and I'm still wondering why Nyk doesn't want to associate with Abighoul anymore.

 

[Dr. Chicken George]

which