DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[TheGoutburglar]

Oh, he hates his viewers. He hates them more than he hates the detractors, because he doesn't expect money from us. But when a fan doesn't meet his monetary expections? Whew. That's when you'll see the real Phil Burnell.

Or rather he has even less respect because he's used to getting money from his retards. And technically, the real Phil appears in both circumstances, the pissy one is just him being what he is when he doesn't get his way, which is being a dick and getting away with it. When he does get his way, he just smugly enjoys it by continuing to be a dick, albeit in a slightly different way because he's comfortable.

Boy am I glad that comfort isn't feeling so good anymore thanks to those Twitch checks being gone. Despite the big money coming in right now, the pigroach is still sweating like crazy.

 

[gettingthatgrooveback]

Phil is literally the only streamer I have ever come across who doesn't mute their mic out of courtesy whenever they need to make even the slightest bodily noise.

What are you talking about? He turns off the mic and camera when he needs to blow his nose. That's very courteous of him. Stop being an idiot detractor.

 

[Very Honest Content]

The ONLY reason DSP is still around is the autistic hate community we are part of. You're in denial if you think you contribute less than ironic viewers in his chat.

Anyone posting here, reddit, watching troll vids, restreams etc contribute to his popularity.

You have notoriety confused with fame when you claim that represents popularity, I can see.

Just a reminder that from the point Phil announced his yeeting from the Twitch Partnership program until now, he has made $8,200 (rounded down) in that sweet sweet cash. After PayPal fees and transactions that's between $7,830 and $7,920 (with the total number of tips received between 200 and 500, what I consider to be the most conservative reasonable estimate vs the most liberal reasonable estimate).

For this I'm assuming he thinks his work day consists of 7 hours a day, 6 days a week, meaning 313 working days a year and his current average tard milking of 66 dollars an hour puts him on pace to make $144,540 AFTER PayPal fees and transactions.

This same guy who says he needs to hit the tips goal every stream of every day between now and Friday to even determine how much he needs to charge for the begathon has already made enough "immediate funds" in the past two weeks to pay his mortgage 4 times over.

Don't worry when he can't pay his bills he can live in the locker room with the other Sons of Smackdown...

 

[Flavius Anthemius]

What are you talking about? He turns off the mic and camera when he needs to blow his nose. That's very courteous of him. Stop being an idiot detractor.

Or how do you expect me to anticipate every single time I need to sniffle, cough, burp or whatever and immediately turn off the mic like light speed. Who cares? Seriously, such a stoopid reason to pointsly complain and stir up drama.

 

[KD6-3.7]

This retard expects $400 a day for this shit.

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He’s been doing shit like this for a while now, but he doesn’t do it often. It’s usually when he has a bad “frahg” in his throat, and he’ll start doing the exaggerated choking sounds after trying to clear his throat a few times. There is a clip that Dark Dave uses where he does that choking sound for about twenty seconds. I was actually watching the prestream in which he actually did that, though. I remember very well.

It is, without a doubt, the most revolting thing he does, even though it’s exaggerated. The fact that he thinks he’s being funny when he does it makes it even worse. You just want to grab him by his stupid vest and shake him when he does it.

 

[Sugar Puppet]

Sorry if this is derailing the discussion but there was something that Phil said during his MLB stream on May6th or 7th that kind of irked me as I wasn't sure if he was being sincere or retconning as usual and I didn't actually see if anyone posted any proof debunking him here. I could have missed it though because the thread was moving very fast at that time.

For context: This was the day he was sperging out about paypal because the e-thot on twitter caught him in a lie about what information is revealed during a tip.

Anyways, during the stream Phil went on a rant to his audience saying he NEVER told anyone to falsify information or make up a name for paypal to tip him. He said he only told his audience to make up a burner email to use to tip him. He said falsifying information on paypal is an insanely stupid thing to do and he would never tell anyone to do that.

I could of sworn that multiple times in the past, very recently, he specifically said to falsify paypal information (including giving a fake name) in every way, shape, and form if people were concerned about him doxing them in order to get people to tip him.

Am I misremembering things or is Phil actually telling the truth here?

 

[PieceofShet]

Sorry if this is derailing the discussion but there was something that Phil said during his MLB stream on May6th or 7th that kind of irked me as I wasn't sure if he was being sincere or retconning as usual and I didn't actually see if anyone posted any proof debunking him here. I could have missed it though because the thread was moving very fast at that time.

For context: This was the day he was sperging out about paypal because the e-thot on twitter caught him in a lie about what information is revealed during a tip.

Anyways, during the stream Phil went on a rant to his audience saying he NEVER told anyone to falsify information or make up a name for paypal to tip him. He said he only told his audience to make up a burner email to use to tip him. He said falsifying information on paypal is an insanely stupid thing to do and he would never tell anyone to do that.

I could of sworn that multiple times in the past, very recently, he specifically said to falsify paypal information (including giving a fake name) in every way, shape, and form if people were concerned about him doxing them in order to get people to tip him.

Am I misremembering things or is Phil actually telling the truth here?

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Nah im pretty sure he said name and everything.

 

[No Context DSP Chat]

Nah im pretty sure he said name and everything.

Anony gave us the moneyshot regarding the paypal dox issue, because DSP told his mods he sees LOTS of info:

https://twitter.com/no_kahntext_dsp/status/1372992047494356999

Fyi i see more info and its the exact same account info so im good

its not like he sent me $66 with a stolen CC and then $1 from his real bank account, they were from the same name and same source

We all know he sees name/email, but what exactly are we to infer from `same source`? Something like last 4 digits? It would HAVE TO BE last 4 because that's how he knows the $66 and the $1 he mentions didn't come from different cards/accounts.

 

[Forbidden Math]

Sorry if this is derailing the discussion but there was something that Phil said during his MLB stream on May6th or 7th that kind of irked me as I wasn't sure if he was being sincere or retconning as usual and I didn't actually see if anyone posted any proof debunking him here. I could have missed it though because the thread was moving very fast at that time.

For context: This was the day he was sperging out about paypal because the e-thot on twitter caught him in a lie about what information is revealed during a tip.

Anyways, during the stream Phil went on a rant to his audience saying he NEVER told anyone to falsify information or make up a name for paypal to tip him. He said he only told his audience to make up a burner email to use to tip him. He said falsifying information on paypal is an insanely stupid thing to do and he would never tell anyone to do that.

I could of sworn that multiple times in the past, very recently, he specifically said to falsify paypal information (including giving a fake name) in every way, shape, and form if people were concerned about him doxing them in order to get people to tip him.

Am I misremembering things or is Phil actually telling the truth here?

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You're remembering correctly, he 100% told his audience to give a fake name to paypal. Clip:

Other fun tidbits in this video are him insisting paypal doesn't dox you and that he doesn't see your real name or real address:

and his description of a cultish mentality (listening to someone and just believing it, like say someone lying about how paypal works and then a week later telling them they're the idiots if they get doxed because of course it gives your info):

Honestly retroactively this video is a gold mine. And this was just 2 weeks ago. Time moves fast in the DSPverse.

Edit: Notice Phil's specific manipulation on that clip you posted, "No, I didn't say this thing (that I totally said), what I did say was this other thing (that I did say as well)." DSP loves doing this, "nugget of truth" as he says, spun into a defensive lie.

 

[Michael Richards]

Sorry if this is derailing the discussion but there was something that Phil said during his MLB stream on May6th or 7th that kind of irked me as I wasn't sure if he was being sincere or retconning as usual and I didn't actually see if anyone posted any proof debunking him here. I could have missed it though because the thread was moving very fast at that time.

For context: This was the day he was sperging out about paypal because the e-thot on twitter caught him in a lie about what information is revealed during a tip.

Anyways, during the stream Phil went on a rant to his audience saying he NEVER told anyone to falsify information or make up a name for paypal to tip him. He said he only told his audience to make up a burner email to use to tip him. He said falsifying information on paypal is an insanely stupid thing to do and he would never tell anyone to do that.

I could of sworn that multiple times in the past, very recently, he specifically said to falsify paypal information (including giving a fake name) in every way, shape, and form if people were concerned about him doxing them in order to get people to tip him.

Am I misremembering things or is Phil actually telling the truth here?

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he has been telling people to break the TOS and not use their real information for 2 weeks and that if he ends up with your personal info then whatever happens next is 100% on you and that you're stupid for trusting him. its been nonstop and very jarring that there has not been a single reassurance from him that if youre a fan and DSP ends up with your info while doing business with you that you will not be fucked with- just that it will be your own fucking fault if it happens dumbass.

 

[PieceofShet]

 

[DZoomer]

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That can't be the actual oroturtle that is giving him money. Probably a shitty gayops trying to make Phil afraid of oroturtle charging back his positive contributions.

 

[actually]

That can't be the actual oroturtle that is giving him money. Probably a shitty gayops trying to make Phil afraid of oroturtle charging back his positive contributions.

The whale avatar is a little too on the nose.

Edit: Joined May2021 and follows a scam prevention account.

 

[blahblahblah678]

That can't be the actual oroturtle that is giving him money. Probably a shitty gayops trying to make Phil afraid of oroturtle charging back his positive contributions.

Especially since that twitter Oroturtle avatar is a whale

Ninja'd by @actually

 

[Hogan of the South]

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What trickery is this?

 

[No Context DSP Chat]

Especially since that twitter Oroturtle avatar is a whale

Ninja'd by @actually

Calling KG an autist in the first tweet wasn't the giveaway?

 

[Colloid]

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As funny as it would be for a whale to unwittingly have a whale for an avatar, this stinks like a fake ween.

 

[Shirō Ishii]

Gonna have to disagree, he actually handled his panels pretty well. Don't confuse being shit at dealing with people who are his equals with being shit at public speaking, where he has the microphone, podium and is above the crowd. Just go watch those panels, he's fully in his element pontificating about himself to a crowd.

Yes, panels from over 10 years ago..... when he still had friends, didn't have an army of detractors, and wasn't a permanent hermit. Current Phil? I have a hard time believing that he can do that in front of an audience again

 

[Serf 'n' TERF]

Am I misremembering things or is Phil actually telling the truth here?

You're not misremembering it. He's advised it plenty of times, as evidenced by TheKatIsNowGone.

From what I understand of creating a verified PayPal account:
- You need to register an address with the account initially because "PayPal needs your postal address because [they] use it as your default billing address." To use an address that isn't your own would be against PayPal TOS and risks your account being frozen. You simply can't make a PayPal account without an address, and nor can you remove the address once the account has been made without replacing it with a new primary address.
- To become verified with PayPal you need to "add and confirm your bank account or, if you prefer, add and confirm your debit or credit card." Both options would need your registered PayPal address to match with your registered (real) address associated with either the bank account or debit/credit card. Now there are services that enable you to create a pseudo card/virtual payment card that uses different numbers to your real card in order to protect info. PayPal have their own version of this called PayPal Key. To use an address that does not match the one linked to your bank account or credit/debit card simply wouldn't allow you to verify your account.

So what Phil is asking people to do, in essence, is one of two things:
To either create a PayPal account and verify it with your real info, and then change it to false info once it's verified which is against PayPal TOS.
Or to create a PayPal account and verify it with false info, which would mean using a bank account/card/address that is not your own which is fraud and against PayPal TOS.

There's really no way that he can spin it.

Edit: I've done a bit more reading around. Really surface level stuff. The kind of stuff Phil would be able to find if he simply Googled the exact question his viewers are asking him.

It seems like a bit of a mixed bag. Maybe you would be able to create and verify a PayPal account and then change the confirmed address to a bogus one and change your name - and that's all Phil would be able to see seeing as he isn't processing the transaction, PayPal is. But either way, to do that is still against PayPal TOS.

 

[Vic Viper T301]

Speaking of the great Paypal info debacle, and playing a little Devils advocate, Phil has claimed something about being able to set the visibility of the various identity info on Paypal, as in "If you put your real info on there and don't set it to not be shown, you're a stupid idiot!" Is there any truth to this?