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Gezkill said:
They can legit pay a prostitute for that much money multiple times and get better service then what DSP provides them.
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yeah thats what mystifies me. im not surprised that people arent making rational decisions with their cash because most everyone does that, its that they are choosing the least fun way to be irrational and then their leader reciprocates by doing the same thing on his phone game. its like a cult where the core tenets are to be as maladaptive as possible but not in a way where anyone might crack a smile.
 
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EmpGulcasa said:
Didn't he later turn around and call the game shit because he didn't like the Shadow Wars portion at the end?
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Yes. He rage quit the game after, surprise, calling other people whiney bitches because he needed da views, dood. He claimed it's NOT a rage quit because he completed the game up until the final act that required the grinding and lootboxes, but it's still a rage quit.

Edit: Tevin confirmed on his stream that Twitch paid him when he was banned in 2018, so Phil is 100% lying when begging on twitter saying he's not getting paid for sure.
 
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Tevin pointed out that, after he was banned from Twitch, they did pay him normally for his 'final month'.
The only difference between Tev and Phil was that Tev was only affiliate when he was banned, I believe, not a partner. But I can't see why they wouldn't pay out a full partner who was banned.

So as of right now, that stacks evidence in favor that Phil will still be paid by Twitch and is looking at a double payday on Friday.
 
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Tevin pointed out that, after he was banned from Twitch, they did pay him normally for his 'final month'.
The only difference between Tev and Phil was that Tev was only affiliate when he was banned, I believe, not a partner. But I can't see why they wouldn't pay out a full partner who was banned.

So as of right now, that stacks evidence in favor that Phil will still be paid by Twitch and is looking at a double payday on Friday.
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Pretty solid scam all things considered. An outsider can't really check if he gets paid or not.
 
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So I checked my paypal to see if I can change my name like Dave said. You can change it due to a marriage, changing it from a nickname to a real name, or if you have minor changes like up to 2 characters. You then need to legally show you changed your name via ID and have a document with your name on it. Like a bank statement with the account number connected to your paypal showing on the statement or a utility bill with your address and name on it. So technically you cannot go from your real name to a fake since they need to verify it.

Another thing I noticed is that if you make a PayPal account with a fake name then you cannot change it to your real name. This is because you need to provide an ID with the fake name plus the other documents I mentioned above with that fake name on it. Plus if you want to take money out (like if someone sends you a tip) you need a bank account and most likely your bank statements doesn't have that fake name. I even saw from various forums people saying that they had to delete those fake name accounts because they couldn't change it since it was a fake name.

So basically, you can't change your real name to a fake name and you can't change a fake name to a real name. What he has been saying about changing names is false, and he is basically telling his audience to commit fraud. I put a screenshot of what PayPal has to say about changing names and it further tells that you can't use fake names period. Now I don't think PayPal will do anything but this is a warning to paypigs that your pig cult leader lied to you, shocking I know (sarcasm). So if any of those idiots of his are reading this, you won't be able to change your name to a fake, and you could get your account banned if you attempt to do this.
TL;DR - YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR NAME ON PAYPAL TO A FAKE NAME
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Piece of Peace said:
For you guys following the tips spreadsheet, I have added new tracking that some of you may find useful: I'm labeling it as the % whaled.

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TL;DR : This will show the percent of total tips per stream that were received from any single entity that tipped at least $20 that stream (i.e. the threshold to become a whale on any particular stream is $20 cumulatively).

I know that the community frequently asks for ways to determine how much of his tips received are from whales vs normal viewers -- I have attempted to provide this in a manner that hopefully makes sense. I have defined a whale as a single entity that has donated at least $20 cumulatively on a particular stream. While completely subjective, I believe that 10% of the requested tips goal is sufficient to meet the definition.

Using Pivot tables in Google Spreadsheets, each tip received will be summed up according to the donator, and any some below the $20 minimum will be filtered out. The remaining amount will then be divided against the total tips for that stream to give us our % whaled. Remember that this is on a PER STREAM basis, meaning that the defined whale only lasts from that stream until the next, I believe that this allows us to judge each stream in it's own isolated environment and creates a more useful data set

Some examples:
1. OIC tips exactly $19 dollars on the first stream. This is not calculated into the % whaled for that stream (despite OIC being a known whale in general).
2. snowkarl makes twenty $1 tips. snowkarl is now considered a "whale" for this stream and that amount + any further amount given will further add to the overall %.
3. Jaxx_Raxor tips $1,000 on the SF stream, then later tips another $2. The final calculation will include $1,002 for his portion of the % whaled calculation.
4. Anonymous tips are filtered out UNLESS there was at least a SINGLE $20+ tip, in which case a separate "Anonymous Whale" entity is temporarily created for that stream. Only large $20+ tips will fall under this entity, $1.30 tips and such will remain filtered out in the whale calculation.

The way I've set this up I believe is as conservative as reasonably possible (i.e. looser definitions of whales will likely have larger percentages). BTW, his average % whaled for the last two weeks was ~67%.

Any suggestions or recommendations appreciated, cheers.
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@actually @Surly Muppet @Agent Proper petition to get this lovely data tracking added to the OP on the L&S thread.

PS: @Agent Proper thanks for changing your username asshole, I know you did it a while ago but I've been knowing you as Proper Pangolin forever and I'm old and don't like change *sigh*
 
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Pargon said:
@actually @Surly Muppet @Agent Proper petition to get this lovely data tracking added to the OP on the L&S thread.

PS: @Agent Proper thanks for changing your username asshole, I know you did it a while ago but I've been knowing you as Proper Pangolin forever and I'm old and don't like change
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@actually did that just the other day! There's a link under "Updated as of 5/8/21." I'll maybe increase the size for visibility for a little while.
 
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Pargon said:
@actually @Surly Muppet @Agent Proper petition to get this lovely data tracking added to the OP on the L&S thread.

PS: @Agent Proper thanks for changing your username asshole, I know you did it a while ago but I've been knowing you as Proper Pangolin forever and I'm old and don't like change *sigh*
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I am sure we can get it added in, might just add it to the Partnership thread since it is tracking after he got the boot.

I changed the name here to make it clear that the asshole here is the same asshole on YouTube.
 
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Piece of Peace said:
For you guys following the tips spreadsheet, I have added new tracking that some of you may find useful: I'm labeling it as the % whaled.

View attachment 2159424

TL;DR : This will show the percent of total tips per stream that were received from any single entity that tipped at least $20 that stream (i.e. the threshold to become a whale on any particular stream is $20 cumulatively).

I know that the community frequently asks for ways to determine how much of his tips received are from whales vs normal viewers -- I have attempted to provide this in a manner that hopefully makes sense. I have defined a whale as a single entity that has donated at least $20 cumulatively on a particular stream. While completely subjective, I believe that 10% of the requested tips goal is sufficient to meet the definition.

Using Pivot tables in Google Spreadsheets, each tip received will be summed up according to the donator, and any some below the $20 minimum will be filtered out. The remaining amount will then be divided against the total tips for that stream to give us our % whaled. Remember that this is on a PER STREAM basis, meaning that the defined whale only lasts from that stream until the next, I believe that this allows us to judge each stream in it's own isolated environment and creates a more useful data set

Some examples:
1. OIC tips exactly $19 dollars on the first stream. This is not calculated into the % whaled for that stream (despite OIC being a known whale in general).
2. snowkarl makes twenty $1 tips. snowkarl is now considered a "whale" for this stream and that amount + any further amount given will further add to the overall %.
3. Jaxx_Raxor tips $1,000 on the SF stream, then later tips another $2. The final calculation will include $1,002 for his portion of the % whaled calculation.
4. Anonymous tips are filtered out UNLESS there was at least a SINGLE $20+ tip, in which case a separate "Anonymous Whale" entity is temporarily created for that stream. Only large $20+ tips will fall under this entity, $1.30 tips and such will remain filtered out in the whale calculation.

The way I've set this up I believe is as conservative as reasonably possible (i.e. looser definitions of whales will likely have larger percentages). BTW, his average % whaled for the last two weeks was ~67%.

Any suggestions or recommendations appreciated, cheers.
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Don't you think $20 is too low for a whale? The threshold should be $50 in my opinion.
 
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gettingthatgrooveback said:
Don't you think $20 is too low for a whale? The threshold should be $50 in my opinion.
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There's a dude on Reddit using a different calculation who has it set at $10, and I don't even know if it's cumulative so it was clear to me that a "whale" means different things to different people.

My thoughts:
1. Personally, I consider $20 to be a lot to give to some guy for a single stream. The only time I've ever donated that much was if it was going to charity (Scopely is not a charity).
2. Sometimes a "whale" may donate less than $20 for a particular stream, those aren't counted as whaling (even though it came from a usual whale), I feel like this may balance it out a bit.
3. Phil made it clear that "crowdfunding" is lots of people who donate like $1 to $2. I think $20 is enough comparatively to highlight his hypocrisy, which is kind of the ultimate goal here.

But anyway if I hear a lot of feedback that requests changes to the whale parameters I'll implement them -- at the end of the day I consider this a community project so majority rules IMO.
 
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Piece of Peace said:
There's a dude on Reddit using a different calculation who has it set at $10, and I don't even know if it's cumulative so it was clear to me that a "whale" means different things to different people.

My thoughts:
1. Personally, I consider $20 to be a lot to give to some guy for a single stream. The only time I've ever donated that much was if it was going to charity (Scopely is not a charity).
2. Sometimes a "whale" may donate less than $20 for a particular stream, those aren't counted as whaling (even though it came from a usual whale), I feel like this may balance it out a bit.
3. Phil made it clear that "crowdfunding" is lots of people who donate like $1 to $2. I think $20 is enough comparatively to highlight his hypocrisy, which is kind of the ultimate goal here.

But anyway if I hear a lot of feedback that requests changes to the whale parameters I'll implement them -- at the end of the day I consider this a community project so majority rules IMO.
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Yeah, $20 are objectively a lot, but not in the pigsphere. They're only 10% of the tips goal.
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Perhaps $20+ in a single tip or $50 cumulative total?
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Cumulative is more important than a single tip to me.
Or we could meet somewhere in the middle? Like, make the threshold $35 or $40.
Or $50 cumulative for the entire day, not just one stream. That's what I prefer but I don't know if that's doable.
 
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gettingthatgrooveback said:
Yeah, $20 are objectively a lot, but not in the pigsphere. They're only 10% of the tips goal.

Cumulative is more important than a single tip to me.
Or we could meet somewhere in the middle? Like, make the threshold $35 or $40.
Or $50 cumulative for the entire day, not just one stream. That's what I prefer but I don't know if that's doable.
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Under this definition, OIC wouldn't be deemed as a whale anymore (as least when he tips as OIC).

If somebody (OIC) donates $20 everyday, are they no longer a whale? Even if they did it twice per stream to make $40 cumulative for the day, he's barely at the threshold.
 
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