Clashes between Jews and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Israel now invading Gaza according to (Questionable) Reports - If your thoughts are "I don't like either" you don't need to fucking post because it's been said 100 times you fucking dullard

[Lovecraft's Cat]

My brother, being the cringe-ass gay retard he is, suggested that instead of sending the Jews to Israel, the allies should've set up the Jewish state in the center of Germany just to mess with the remaining nazis.

 

[murdered meat bag]

What does the holy spirit showing up in Acts (I assume that's to what you are referring) have to do with the paraclete, which again is not stated to be the holy spirit? I'm willing to concede on the assumption that you can just throw together John and Acts, even though it's an unscholarly thing to conclude, but not on the equation of the paraclete with the holy spirit. At least, not without supporting arguments from John.

Paraclete means helper and youre the only one saying it doesnt refer to the holy spirit. Through spirit all things are possible, like speaking in tongues.

For a reference in john, ch 20 has christ sending the holy spirit to the disciples to allow them to remit or retain sin. To help them if you will.

The church in jerusalem was headed by james the brother of Jesus.

 

[mate]

We can say with some certainty Mohammed existed though. At the very least people like his nephew Ali did and there’s no disputing that Uthman and Umar (both horrible men) did, so why not think Mohammed existed? People like to do these hot takes like “Heh I bet Jesus didn’t even exist” or in this case Mohammed. I’m fairly confident Mohammed did in fact exist. What I also believe is a Nestorian Monk from Mesopotamia probably met him, told him idolatry was bad and then went on his merry way and Mohammed agreed, had trouble with the concept of the trinity (very common) so he abandoned it altogether, then just started applying his own OCD to a belief system. To me that’s far more probable than “he never even existed”.

There’s people who always question the existence of historical figures for the same reasons Ancient Aliens is still on after all this time. It sells books or gets you a documentary. I study Mongol History pretty vigorously and I remember there was once some hot take that Genghis Khan never existed. I actually laughed really hard at that one. Same as I also once heard there was an episode of Ancient Aliens saying Genghis Khan was a fucking alien. Everyone and everything is an alien, human beings aren’t capable of doing anything by themselves. Conversely if they weren’t an alien, maybe they just never existed in the first place. It’s all mythology. Until someone can prove that fucking Zoroaster never existed, conclusively - I’m going to believe he really did exist. Same with Jesus, Mohammed, Siddartha Buddha, Kongzi, hell even Krishna. There may be stories about their lives that are heavily embellished and people probably helped on a lot of the theology that went into their systems but I think to some degree or another these people existed and have changed the world.

This thread is getting derailed enough so I will spoiler...

Spoiler: Mohammed (probably) didn't exist

The book 'In the Shadow of the Sword' by Tom Holland makes a very solid case for, on the balance of the evidence, both Muhammad and Jesus not existing. I don't know if the author is correct in his assessment, I wasn't present during those historical events, but I think he is probably right. It isn't a hot take and comparing it to ancient aliens or one sperg denying Genghis Khan existed is silly. If you want to know why some people think those people didn't exist, go check out the book I mentioned instead of strawmaning everyone and derailing a thread on current events.

 

[Lovecraft's Cat]

This thread rn:

 

[JustSomeDong]

I have trouble giving a shit outside of my monkeysphere, these days. I just wanna see some 'splosions.

 

[Kikemaster]

I don't like how the kikes are trying to orchestrate the events.
They whined about lack of negotiation and that shit cannot be done peacefully, yet refuse Egyptian and Lebanese peace arbiters.
They boasted about having "tons of missiles for Iron dome" yet they're trying to kvetch the US for even more money.

Typical Jewish tricks, can't say I'm surprised

 

[vulg]

My brother, being the cringe-ass gay retard he is, suggested that instead of sending the Jews to Israel, the allies should've set up the Jewish state in the center of Germany just to mess with the remaining nazis.

my great grandfather, being the Nazi that he was, suggested sending the Jews to Madagascar, just because it sounded like a cool idea.

The book 'In the Shadow of the Sword' by Tom Holland makes a very solid case for, on the balance of the evidence, both Muhammad and Jesus not existing. I don't know if the author is correct in his assessment, I wasn't present during those historical events, but I think he is probably right. It isn't a hot take and comparing it to ancient aliens or one sperg denying Genghis Khan existed is silly. If you want to know why some people think those people didn't exist, go check out the book I mentioned instead of strawmaning everyone and derailing a thread on current events.

Tom Holland didn't suggest that Muhammad and Jesus didn't literally exist, his book is about how their successors (Abu Bakr and Paul respectively) were the real architects in shaping their religions. That is to say, both Abu Bakr and Paul removed the Jewishness of the religion and transformed it into something a lot more international and palpable.

 

[Jarolleon]

Six day war part 2:
Revenge of the Goyim

That's called the Yom Kippur War IIRC.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

my great grandfather, being the Nazi that he was, suggested sending the Jews to Madagascar, just because it sounded like a cool idea.

Could you imagine a jew on Madascagar?
The allergies alone would have finished half of them off, not even factoring in the humidity, or all the weird food they wouldn't be able to eat. It'd have a higher bodycount than any genocide attempt would.

 

[MugolEx]

Jewish Mob just wailing on this guy, you can even hear the punches. Seems like a lot of pent up rage being unleashed. I don't think anyone wants the attacks to stop. Both sides want each other killed and one side is about to start an actual war.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1392551091968040964

 

[Terrorist]

He should as soon as possible. Trump didn't listen to the wisdom from Sargoy of Applebees. Now he is no longer president.

I’m just so glad that we now have Joe, Kamala, Chuck Schumer, AIPAC, and the military-industrial complex as allies in the war on SJWs. Supporting Israel is a bold anti-establishment stance that would be irresistible to such scrappy underdogs.

 

[vulg]

Could you imagine a jew on Madascagar?
The allergies alone would have finished half of them off, not even factoring in the humidity, or all the weird food they wouldn't be able to eat. It'd have a higher bodycount than any genocide attempt would.

A Woody Allen movie about the Madagascar Plan would be amazing.

a bunch of argumentative hypochondriac Brooklyn Jews who are down on their luck get deported to a tropical hellhole and have to rebuild Israel like a Bible story.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Paraclete means helper and youre the only one saying it doesnt refer to the holy spirit.

Helper, comforter, advocate, the semantic range is quite large since the word itself is unclear. What is clear is that it does not say holy spirit, it says paraclete. Maybe that could refer to the holy spirit. It could also easily refer to another person who will come in the future—and we know that's an interpretation with some credibility because Mani claimed as such.

For a reference in john, ch 20 has christ sending the holy spirit to the disciples to allow them to remit or retain sin. To help them if you will.

You're using a particular translation of an unclear word and linking it to the type of action the disciples can do that is explicitly a consequence of the holy spirit. Theologically, whatever works for you is fine. As a biblical scholar, however, that argument doesn't carry a ton of weight with me.

 

[Jann_Hörn]

Jewish Mob just wailing on this guy, you can even hear the punches. Seems like a lot of pent up rage being unleashed. I don't think anyone wants the attacks to stop. Both sides want each other killed and one side is about to start an actual war.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1392551091968040964

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If a war starts, this will be the entire Middle East vs Israel. USA will get dragged in and get ready for more forever wars

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

The current lefty debate:
1) Support Israel and get criticized for supporting crimes against humanity
2) Support Palestine and watch as Arabs are unironically Hitler-posting
3) Fence-sit and get called out for not caring about humanity.

Lets see how this plays out.

Unfortunately this won't turn into the "mask off" moment that would cause the American Left to implode because the American lefty Jews have always known who their bedmates are in the Democratic party.

American Jews for the most part could give two shits about Israel other than any direct personal connections they might have. Israel damages their liberal oppression points by association. Additionally US conservatives tend to support Israeli policies which of course forces American Jews to publicly disagree with them.

I expect most American Jews in the public eye to offer the empty "please guys stop fighting" message or outright disavow the actions of the Israeli government and advocate for the Palestinians.

American Jews on the Left lose nothing by publicly denouncing Israel because the Left's concern for Jews only extends as far as it is useful as a bludgeon against Right-leaning interests.

 

[Jarolleon]

They may want to chew some of your buttplunger off tho mate.

For me, this is free entertainment. Every muslim that dies there is one that can't come to Europe, and every shekel spent on Israel's defenses can't be spent on befouling Europe even more with vile jewish ideology.

The more shekels they spend, the more they'll take from the rest of us to make up the difference. Unless the Dems decide to backstab them as revenge for Netanyahu's Trump ties that is.

 

[vulg]

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halfway through the sign language translator just gives up and starts reacting like Markiplier playing Five Nights at Freddy's

 

[Fentanyl Floyd]

Some blatant? evidence of kikes dominating /pol/ moderation.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/321216236/ (https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/321216236)
The OP post is a jew shill whore, sexual, thread isn't deleted.
Two posts in the thread are deleted and they mention OP jewess being fucked by hamas and big greek cock.
A sexual post referring to her getting a BBC was not deleted.
Just thought it was interesting.

It's been like that for a while, 2016 was a mistake

 

[Billy Beer]

Open debate when it comes to politics or religion hasn't worked out very well for the west. It's also impossible to create the sort of place you describe due to extensive cost (that you, the west, will pay for) as well as the reality that all those militants or undesirables you wanted to keep out will sneak in.

NATO, the UN and the loser of the P/I war pays, not just the west.

I know it would never work, it's my eternal optimism getting in the way of reality.

 

[Gravemind]

If the Palestinians were smart they’d focus a lot more on PR. I am fairly neutral on it as I am not a fan of any countries there but the Israelis have done a much better job at PR. It’s arguably one of their biggest edges over the entire Middle East. I have seen some Palestinian documentaries and other attempts to get sympathy but they really suck at it. Like they can be handed a perfect PR win on a silver platter but they can’t help but sperg so hard it scares off a lot of people on the fence or who would otherwise be sympathetic. On the other hand, Israel has done a better job garnering support from Christian fundies, Republicans, centrist Democrats, etc.

Well, Palestinians are currently bending the knee to BLM on social media as a form of PR, at least.