Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Tasty Tatty]

I really wish he'd at least stop with these ugly multicolored muumuus or whatever it's called.

I'm sure the reason is that nothing else really fits. He's not as shameless as the fat whales we make fun of here, he knows his body sucks and he wants to keep it hidden. It's sad, but he knows he didn't get the female figure he was promised along with the "vagina".

 

[Rabidcolombian]

I spent forever writing my stupid message and it all got erased. Anyway, here's a link, Sanders tried to market the last season of the show which I find very weird and inappropriate and exploiting, considering what happens to Jazz in it, but whatever, who cares about Jazz's well being really. Complete with a picture of Sanders with Jazz in the hospital bed saying that he meant to go but stayed for support. Okay Sandars. The dissonance is just too much for me.

What am I even looking at

 

[Little Dark Age]

It's weird that he says he is straight in the first place instead of claiming he is pansexual or some shit for woke points & attention. But perhaps that might happen sooner or later. Hell he might even come out as nonbinary because that means he doesn't have to change anything about himself.

Possible reasons for Sander's gay weirdness:

- Attention and/or clout. The show is over, and all he's ever known is that a person gets attention from Mommy and cameras if they're light in the loafers.

- Intense survivor's guilt. Jazz is rapidly deteriorating and I can only imagine what it's like behind the scenes, day in, day out, one dilation session and bag of fast food after another. Sander is old enough to see that it's a nightmare, and doubling down on rainbow bs is a great way to cope and stay in denial.

- Maybe he's gay, whether he admits it to himself or not. (Dont forget that this is the family where an obviously gay kid got trooned out by his mom, then went to a "past life" therapy thing and started crying, talking about having a past life as a gay man in which nobody accepted him and "I'm hungry.") When one brother was gay, mom went insane and mutilated his crotch. If Sander is gay (or attracted to males on any level) this could (subconsciously or otherwise) be his way of saying "REMEMBER MOM HOW ACCEPTING WE ARE?? RAINBOWS AND QUILTBAG MOM. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THIS, EVERYONE IS WATCHING."

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

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What am I even looking at

Bullshit. You are looking at a huge pile of rainbow colored bullshit. Also note that Sander doesn't use the new official troon/poc/rainbow flag abomination.

(yet)

 

[Theophilus Thistler]

Bullshit. You are looking at a huge pile of rainbow colored bullshit. Also note that Sander doesn't use the new official troon/poc/rainbow flag abomination.

(yet)

Nah he totally is.

 

[Trianon]

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What am I even looking at

I honestly hoped you guys were just being hard on Sander until I saw this image. Pure chills. I want to believe it's a good thing that he and Jazz are still close, but he's clearly internalized that this allyship is the best way to get attention, and I'm sad.

It's been mentioned that Jazz gained a lot of weight between now and October 2020, but going back through the thread, he had gotten very big even in December. I don't even know how it's possible to put on that much weight that quickly. I know logically hormonal medication can make weight retention easier, but it just blows my mind.

Also I don't know why he's so poisoned against therapy. A therapist probably wouldn't even push against the gender stuff. I guess it's just never being told no makes it hard to do any kind of self-improvement? He can't hear "maybe you can learn to deal with stress in a healthier way" without being reminded of his mom's nagging, so he just shuts down and gets angry. But he needs it SO MUCH.

 

[Tombigbee]

What’s the final verdict on Jeanette’s surgery? Was it really plastic surgery?

And was that grandma Jazz’s maternal or paternal one? What an insane walking stereotype! Another Jew straight out of central casting. Cross eyed looking motherfucker.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Grandma is Jeanette's mother.

Also I don't know why he's so poisoned against therapy. A therapist probably wouldn't even push against the gender stuff. I guess it's just never being told no makes it hard to do any kind of self-improvement? He can't hear "maybe you can learn to deal with stress in a healthier way" without being reminded of his mom's nagging, so he just shuts down and gets angry. But he needs it SO MUCH.

Many people with mental illnesses, like addicts, don't like the idea of getting help. For them, we're the ones who are wrong, not them. They don't need to change one bit.

It's not in purpose, of course. Deep inside, they likely know what's really happening and they don't want to accept it. It's easier to keep drinking, gambling, or eating rather than accept a reality that hurts.

 

[Green Panda]

I honestly hoped you guys were just being hard on Sander until I saw this image. Pure chills. I want to believe it's a good thing that he and Jazz are still close, but he's clearly internalized that this allyship is the best way to get attention, and I'm sad.

It's been mentioned that Jazz gained a lot of weight between now and October 2020, but going back through the thread, he had gotten very big even in December. I don't even know how it's possible to put on that much weight that quickly. I know logically hormonal medication can make weight retention easier, but it just blows my mind.

Also I don't know why he's so poisoned against therapy. A therapist probably wouldn't even push against the gender stuff. I guess it's just never being told no makes it hard to do any kind of self-improvement? He can't hear "maybe you can learn to deal with stress in a healthier way" without being reminded of his mom's nagging, so he just shuts down and gets angry. But he needs it SO MUCH.

Well, antidepressants are notorious for rapid weight gain. I’d be amazed if Jazz isn’t on a cocktail of psychiatric meds to stop him falling into complete and utter despair.

 

[sperginity]

Also I don't know why he's so poisoned against therapy. A therapist probably wouldn't even push against the gender stuff. I guess it's just never being told no makes it hard to do any kind of self-improvement? He can't hear "maybe you can learn to deal with stress in a healthier way" without being reminded of his mom's nagging, so he just shuts down and gets angry. But he needs it SO MUCH.

If there is one thing therapists do well, it is blaming your parents. I am sure that Jeannette has dropped lots of hints over the years that being in therapy is unacceptable, either because it is something only crazy people do or because it makes pediatric transitioning look bad to others (probably the 2nd thing, she uses that to control the entire family but especially jazz). What is especially sadistic about jeannette's insistence on turning jazz into a poster child is that no one really buys the act, except for people who didn't need much convincing in the first place. Anyone skeptical of trooning out children who looks to the "jennings" family is going to conclude that the family is dysfunctional, regardless of how perfect jazz looks or acts: it doesn't cover up anything that matters. He suffered for no fucking reason.

- Maybe he's gay, whether he admits it to himself or not. (Dont forget that this is the family where an obviously gay kid got trooned out by his mom, then went to a "past life" therapy thing and started crying, talking about having a past life as a gay man in which nobody accepted him and "I'm hungry.") When one brother was gay, mom went insane and mutilated his crotch. If Sander is gay (or attracted to males on any level) this could (subconsciously or otherwise) be his way of saying "REMEMBER MOM HOW ACCEPTING WE ARE?? RAINBOWS AND QUILTBAG MOM. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THIS, EVERYONE IS WATCHING."

This was my initial reaction, but the more I think about it, the more I wonder if he is genuinely confused about sexuality because he got brought up being told that his brother was exactly as much of a girl as his real sister, or his mother. He has had to repeat this mantra that romantic attraction is about "gender identity" instead of a physical body. How do you even formulate what your sexuality is in an environment where no one is allowed to tell the truth about biological sex? How do you talk about these things to figure it out without offending jazz and jeannette? I guarantee that he refuses to read any educational materials on the subject that aren't trans-inclusive, meaning materials that tell the exact same lies jeannette does about sexuality. He is in the same weird boat that lesbians have been in for awhile, trying to be attracted to one sex ONLY while their entire political circle is made up of people who will cancel them for being honest about only liking women.

The rate of bisexuality in males is really quite small, so he is probably either gay or straight, and therefore problematic. His dick is transphobic because it will only get hard in response to one biological sex. How confusing it must be to get surrounded by people pretending to be the opposite biological sex, and perhaps experiencing sexual feelings for the "wrong" gender (but only when it aligns with a specific biological sex). Jazz dropped out of in-person high school because all the guys at the school said dating jazz was gay (and it would have been!), it is probably hard not to feel like a cis oppressor for having a normal sexuality when jazz's suffering has always been given more seriousness than any of the other kid's feelings, and jazz's suffering hinges on lying about biological sex. This has been a problem since jazz was in middle school, boys turning jazz down as a romantic partner and jeannette insisting that they're just bigoted somehow for being uninterested in dating a troon. It is like a woke version of all the masturbation shame traditionally served up by religion.

 

[Dylan]

Ya'll armchair psychologists trying to compare closeted faggot to the victims of terrorists, seeking some deep meaning in the face of retarded spawn of psychotic narcissist, when in reality you just observe manic episode of dim witted alphabet person.

 

[afternoon_tea]

I honestly hoped you guys were just being hard on Sander until I saw this image. Pure chills. I want to believe it's a good thing that he and Jazz are still close, but he's clearly internalized that this allyship is the best way to get attention, and I'm sad.

It's been mentioned that Jazz gained a lot of weight between now and October 2020, but going back through the thread, he had gotten very big even in December. I don't even know how it's possible to put on that much weight that quickly. I know logically hormonal medication can make weight retention easier, but it just blows my mind.

Also I don't know why he's so poisoned against therapy. A therapist probably wouldn't even push against the gender stuff. I guess it's just never being told no makes it hard to do any kind of self-improvement? He can't hear "maybe you can learn to deal with stress in a healthier way" without being reminded of his mom's nagging, so he just shuts down and gets angry. But he needs it SO MUCH.

Sometimes the people who need therapy the most are the most reticent to do it because they're afraid to bring up the issues that they know they have deep down. And Jazz has some of the deepest, darkest issues I can possibly imagine and I'm sure on some level he knows it.

Even people with a lot more solvable problems are afraid to deal with them directly because it's so overwhelming to think about. Jazz has a bunch of problems there is really no fix for, so I can understand wanting to stay in denial and not acknowledging them.

When he had his little hissy fit in the car about therapy it was almost like him saying "what's the point? A therapist isn't going to be able to fix this" and he's probably right to a certain extent (although maybe the right therapist can help him find some other way to bring meaning to his life, but maybe I'm being optimistic)

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Also I don't know why he's so poisoned against therapy. A therapist probably wouldn't even push against the gender stuff. I guess it's just never being told no makes it hard to do any kind of self-improvement? He can't hear "maybe you can learn to deal with stress in a healthier way" without being reminded of his mom's nagging, so he just shuts down and gets angry. But he needs it SO MUCH.

Wasn't his big experience with therapy ("real" therapy, not past-live regression or hippie woo-woo shit) his mom's Cousin Debbie, who's supposed to have been the driving force/rubber stamp behind his "pediatric transition" in the first place? I mean, if the last time I went to a therapist I got brain damage, brittle bones, and my cock chopped off, I'd avoid them like the plague too. Jazz is stunted, but he's not actually fucking retarded.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Imagine how Jazz is going to look at the end of the year.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Imagine how Jazz is going to look at the end of the year.

I don't need to imagine it, I have an artist's rendering right here:

 

[and I must scream]

Wasn't his big experience with therapy ("real" therapy, not past-live regression or hippie woo-woo shit) his mom's Cousin Debbie, who's supposed to have been the driving force/rubber stamp behind his "pediatric transition" in the first place? I mean, if the last time I went to a therapist I got brain damage, brittle bones, and my cock chopped off, I'd avoid them like the plague too. Jazz is stunted, but he's not actually fucking retarded.

I think something like that too. I think he associates therapy to something bad and unpleasant, so he just doesn't want to do it. He might not able to explain it to even himself, it's just doesn't feel good and right to him.

I also speculate that perhaps he went to some therapy sessions as a kid, because it was required as part of the transition process. If that's the case, it possible that he didn't have a positive experience with it because they are the kind that look to check v on "went to therapy" so he could go on with the transitioning, instead of actually do any therapy. It is also possible that because he was a minor, his parents or one of them had to accompany him and be there as part of the session in some of them. It's a common practice with minors. And so he had to sit there with Jeannette and maybe also Greg, and it probably felt like sitting with your parents and your teacher, and you are not that good a student. It's uncomfortable. So uncomfortable that you try to avoid it if you can.

Also, the show was a few years ago, and since then he might have changed his mind and go to therapy, but I doubt that.

 

[OttoWest]

If there is one thing therapists do well, it is blaming your parents. I am sure that Jeannette has dropped lots of hints over the years that being in therapy is unacceptable, either because it is something only crazy people do or because it makes pediatric transitioning look bad to others (probably the 2nd thing, she uses that to control the entire family but especially jazz).

Jeanette has a master’s in something called “social agency counseling” which as far as I can find is only offered at one school, the University of Dayton. Most of the other people with this degree are LCSWs and other counselor types. I wonder why she sought that degree and what she wanted to do with it. She earned it in 1995, so before any of the boys were born.

 

[double second]

Wasn't his big experience with therapy ("real" therapy, not past-live regression or hippie woo-woo shit) his mom's Cousin Debbie, who's supposed to have been the driving force/rubber stamp behind his "pediatric transition" in the first place? I mean, if the last time I went to a therapist I got brain damage, brittle bones, and my cock chopped off, I'd avoid them like the plague too. Jazz is stunted, but he's not actually fucking retarded.

The eval stuff when Jazz was a kid wasn’t even therapy. Eval interviews mean the therapist is asking a lot of direct questions to see if the person has a history of trauma and understand relevant social and psychological factors, and to see if they meet the criteria for gender dysphoria. And Jazz was so young that the therapist probably couldn’t properly do an eval at all, because GD requires a lot of insight that kids just don’t have. It was all parent-report and Jeannette said what she had to say to get her way. There was no actual therapy. Which is why Jazz thinks therapists are useless- either they do weird unscientific nonsense or they let the mom decide what happens to Jazz.

Personally I don’t care if adults or older teens are trans because they’re at least capable of understanding the choices they make. AFAIK Jazz wasn’t even getting ongoing care or monitoring after the initial diagnosis that they should never have gotten to begin with, because we know kids can be led very easily in clinical interviews and we know young kids lack the introspection required for a GD diagnosis. The fact that multiple doctors approved Jazz for puberty blockers, HRT, and genital surgery based on a diagnosis of GD from parent reports when Jazz was fuckin 6 is appalling. Jeannette had to shop for people who would do that.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

or older teens are trans because they’re at least capable of understanding the choices they make

 

[Rabidcolombian]

The fact that multiple doctors approved Jazz for puberty blockers, HRT, and genital surgery based on a diagnosis of GD from parent reports when Jazz was fuckin 6 is appalling. Jeannette had to shop for people who would do that.

This is why I don’t believe the common theory on the thread that Jazz is just gay.

Wasn’t this kid saying things like how he wanted a fairy to give him a vagina at the age of TWO?? That gives mother dearest lots of time to plant misconceptions about sexuality into his head.

Left alone and to his own devices, there is a HUGE possibility that Jazz would’ve grow up a normal straight man. How can you trust that “hypothesis” sessions he once had where he believed he was rejected as a gay man in a past life when he never knew what sexuality was since the very beginning?

Being straight is never something that can come into the equation for him. Imagine if Jazz ever tried to come out of this and tried to identify as what he always was - a male. He would have no other OPTION but to say he was gay. Not only does that keep him safe with the LGBT community in a sense, the only community he claims ever loved him, but also gives Jeannette and Greg a perfect way out. They never wanted to harm Jazz - the just got their diagnosis wrong. They still are loving and GREAT parents. For kids, this is more important than any truth can be. Jazz would never be able to admit to himself that his parents are worthless disgusting monsters. That his father stood by as his mother mutilated him.

They also already brainwashed him into believe anyone OUTSIDE the LGBT movement are all horrible bigoted people who don’t know what love is. They’ve made him believe his only chance for acceptance and love is in that movement.

The saddest thing is that a lot of people on this thread don’t hate Jazz. None of this was his fault and even if he acts like a spoiled brat like many people have said on this thread, he got MUTILATED by the people who were suppose to love him the most. I think that gives him a pass more than anyone to bitch the rest of his life. Under no normal circumstances should a child of two know what a vagina is which if a lie told on Jeannette part is disturbing, but if TRUE is even more so. This poor kid never had a chance with these people. You really can’t expect him to act any other way which is why I get tired of the Jazz hated.

Its depressing that the LGBT community are so disgustingly insane that they’ve made him believe people who want to tell him the truth are evil. That anyone who doesn’t submit to their cult doctrine have only hatred in their hearts and MUST be ostracized. More people than not on this thread WANT the happy ending for him. Not for him to live this disgusting lie and chase the purple dragon until he 41%’s himself but to come to terms that these people are EVIL and would never EVER accept him if he ever did choose to become a straight male. We all know it. Jazz MUST know it deep within.

Fuck the LGBTQRST+ community for THAT unforgivable crap among others things they’ve done to him.