Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[benis154262]

@literal autist is indirectly responsible for me finding this.
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You have summoned me. Forgot there was a consoomer thread. I posted this in the Reddit thread but didn’t realize we had a thread for this.

Anyways, I saw this post on r/consoom (one of last good subreddits left) and it got me thinking. This is a big reason why rock will never be truly popular again. Zoomers care more about an artist being “unproblematic” than they do about actual artistic merit. They’d rather have 10 million “we have Paramore/Avril Lavigne at home” pseudo-pop punk girlbosses than 1 actual rockstar who said the gamer word once or treats their groupies badly.

It’s amazing the way that zoomers pick and choose the things they’re going to get annoyed at. Remember Tramp Stamps? They basically got bullied off of the internet for being industry plants, but the same people who attacked Tramp Stamps love Girl In Red, Clairo, Phoebe Bridgers, etc. All obvious industry plants.

It's so fitting that her profile pic is of a K-pop star too. You know, an industry that is known for abusing and sexually exploiting idols as well as pressuring them into developing eating disorders? Very unproblematic.

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[NoReturn]

You have summoned me. Forgot there was a consoomer thread. I posted this in the Reddit thread but didn’t realize we had a thread for this.

Anyways, I saw this post on r/consoom (one of last good subreddits left) and it got me thinking. This is a big reason why rock will never be truly popular again. Zoomers care more about an artist being “unproblematic” than they do about actual artistic merit. They’d rather have 10 million “we have Paramore/Avril Lavigne at home” pseudo-pop punk girlbosses than 1 actual rockstar who said the gamer word once or treats their groupies badly.

It’s amazing the way that zoomers pick and choose the things they’re going to get annoyed at. Remember Tramp Stamps? They basically got bullied off of the internet for being industry plants, but the same people who attacked Tramp Stamps love Girl In Red, Clairo, Phoebe Bridgers, etc. All obvious industry plants.

It's so fitting that her profile pic is of a K-pop star too. You know, an industry that is known for abusing and sexually exploiting idols as well as pressuring them into developing eating disorders? Very unproblematic.
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What even is the original video?

 

[benis154262]

What even is the original video?

 

[Vingle]

How does this have so many views? It's not even a good song, and TBH. It just makes it creepy when she's so young.

 

[NoReturn]

"Unproblematic" my ass. This offends me.
Boring song, insipid lyrics, and obvious rich girl is obvious:

Also, Wikipedia tells me she was a Disney Channel person? She's totally manufactured.
Dumb kids. Get off my lawn.

How does this have so many views? It's not even a good song, and TBH. It just makes it creepy when she's so young.

Wikipedia also tells me it was written by Dan Nigro (with Olivia as "co-writer") so it was probably a song he'd written and he just sold it to her with minor changes. It would explain why it as lyrics better-suited to an adult singer like:

• "I guess that therapist I found for you, she really helped"
• "You bought a new car and your career's really takin' off (Ah)"

Having looked up the lyrics, btw, it's like an anthem to being an obsessive, bitter ex. Gross.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

So there were brands in the past, but they were like artist signatures on paintings now - before they "became formal" when companies and trademarks in the modern sense became a thing?

Well, there is this:

Shinise - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Buying something from a shinise imparts particular prestige in Japan, connoting the "pinnacle of taste".[2] This Japanese preference for shinise is distinguished from the appreciation most societies have for luxury goods in that it does not only include expensive, long-lasting items such as cars and watches, but also everyday objects and food.[2]

This consumer preference may have roots in Japanese society's predilection for conformity, which makes it so that somebody who owns a shinise item is certain not to be ridiculed for it, and frequently respected.[2] As a result, brand loyalty to shinise is often intense, which in turn helps these companies survive for a long time.[2]

 

[NeroRisotto]

Fun fact: Most of the weirdo Disney fans are the ones who go to Disneyland. I went to Disneyland for the first/probably only time in 2018, and I felt out of place and not many people were friendly. I literally saw grown-ass adults acting and talking like the characters they were dressed up as for Dapper Day; it was weird and uncomfortable. Sure, you see some of the weirdos at Disney World as well, but most of Disney World's attendees are families with kids and newlyweds on their honeymoon.

Well it's because Disneyland in California duh.

 

[GentlemanFaggot]

Well it's because Disneyland in California duh.

Counterpoint: Disneyworld is in Florida, which many would argue is full of just as many crazies or more. Florida Man is a meme for a reason.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Well it's because Disneyland in California duh.

That, and also because most of Disneyland's attendees are locals, so there's a snobby air to them when they go around the parks-- it's totally a thing. In contrast to that, most of Disney World's attendees are tourists.

Also, give me Florida's meth heads and gators over any Californian at this point. lol.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

"Unproblematic" my ass. This offends me.
Boring song, insipid lyrics, and obvious rich girl is obvious:
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Also, Wikipedia tells me she was a Disney Channel person? She's totally manufactured.
Dumb kids. Get off my lawn.

Wikipedia also tells me it was written by Dan Nigro (with Olivia as "co-writer") so it was probably a song he'd written and he just sold it to her with minor changes. It would explain why it as lyrics better-suited to an adult singer like:

• "I guess that therapist I found for you, she really helped"
• "You bought a new car and your career's really takin' off (Ah)"

Having looked up the lyrics, btw, it's like an anthem to being an obsessive, bitter ex. Gross.

Dear god that song sucks. It sounds like some dumb Zoomer version of Carrie Underwood “before he cheats”

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Shinise - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I guess even without "intellectual property" law, there really can still be "brand loyalty".

But I still think in the modern world, consumerism can replace real culture - and intensify brand loyalty far more than before the modern world because of a lack of real culture.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I guess even without "intellectual property" law, there really can still be "brand loyalty".

But I still think in the modern world, consumerism can replace real culture - and intensify brand loyalty far more than before the modern world because of a lack of real culture.

Yeah, we have plenty of records of kings or nobles who preferred certain sorts of wine or silk or whatever, but they didn't base their entire identity around drinking wine from a very specific region of France or whatever. This is where we get back into the idea of consumerism replacing religion and how advertising exploits that. Or how traditional culture ends up ignored or commodified (and this isn't just in the West either since similar stuff is happening in China, India, Middle East, and even Africa).

Basically, when Moviebob or whoever says that the MCU or Star Wars is our culture's Shakespeare or Greek mythology or whatever, he's not entirely wrong.

 

[L50LasPak]

Counterpoint: Disneyworld is in Florida, which many would argue is full of just as many crazies or more. Florida Man is a meme for a reason.

Sounds like part of the attraction to me.

 

[LunaLuLu]

Listen, you can post whatever you want in this thread, but I sincerely doubt that there'll be anything worse than the parents that named their kid Dovahkiin for free Bethesda shit.

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I bet his mum had an elective cesarian booked on that date just to win that stupid contest. The odds are like a million to 1 that shit was spontaneous birth.

Also, I'm a bit disappointed. I came to say the antidote to Consoomer(tm) is likely to be adult responsibilities, chiefly children. I guess this couple didn't get the memo.

Children redirect your spending onto shit they need, and prevents you from spending all your hard earned pennies on stuff that isnt clothes, shoes, nappies ect for your child. Having children also shifts your focus off of you and onto caring for them and the shit you used to value doesn't feel important anymore compared to the massive responsibility that is a child. I suspect this is why consoomerism is pushed so hard on the young people, when they should be focusing on finding a mate, securing a home for themselves and starting a family, they are hyper focused on newest product coming out. Consoomerism is anti natalist propaganda.

 

[Republika]

"Unproblematic" my ass. This offends me.
Boring song, insipid lyrics, and obvious rich girl is obvious:
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Also, Wikipedia tells me she was a Disney Channel person? She's totally manufactured.
Dumb kids. Get off my lawn.

Wikipedia also tells me it was written by Dan Nigro (with Olivia as "co-writer") so it was probably a song he'd written and he just sold it to her with minor changes. It would explain why it as lyrics better-suited to an adult singer like:

• "I guess that therapist I found for you, she really helped"
• "You bought a new car and your career's really takin' off (Ah)"

Having looked up the lyrics, btw, it's like an anthem to being an obsessive, bitter ex. Gross.

I fucking hate edgy break-up songs about exes, they're mostly all the same.

 

[saintJogger]

Everyone’s favorite Funko Man dropping some wisdom on reissues and “variants”:

Some choice quotes:
”Giving [“exclusive” figure] a wider release isn’t really fair to the people who lined up to get them on Day 1. At least it has a different sticker though, so I have both in my collection.”
”Rereleasing figures in the same box is bad for the hobby. They should rerelease them in different boxes so that collectors can buy the more valuable original run while people who just want the pop can buy the new one. Of course, I’m going to buy both of them.”

I like how he thinks shit quality control is 'a variant'.

"They changed the paint on this one a bit." Yeah, they sure did. I'm pretty sure they didn't mean to, they just don't give a shit.

 

[Anon88]

How does this have so many views? It's not even a good song, and TBH. It just makes it creepy when she's so young.

It’s probably because of bots. I get the feeling most popular videos on YouTube these days are mostly just bot views.

 

[Idiot Asshole]

You have summoned me. Forgot there was a consoomer thread. I posted this in the Reddit thread but didn’t realize we had a thread for this.

Anyways, I saw this post on r/consoom (one of last good subreddits left) and it got me thinking. This is a big reason why rock will never be truly popular again. Zoomers care more about an artist being “unproblematic” than they do about actual artistic merit. They’d rather have 10 million “we have Paramore/Avril Lavigne at home” pseudo-pop punk girlbosses than 1 actual rockstar who said the gamer word once or treats their groupies badly.

It’s amazing the way that zoomers pick and choose the things they’re going to get annoyed at. Remember Tramp Stamps? They basically got bullied off of the internet for being industry plants, but the same people who attacked Tramp Stamps love Girl In Red, Clairo, Phoebe Bridgers, etc. All obvious industry plants.

It's so fitting that her profile pic is of a K-pop star too. You know, an industry that is known for abusing and sexually exploiting idols as well as pressuring them into developing eating disorders? Very unproblematic.
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I'd have to disagree. Zoom-zooms propelled this into the Billboard #1 spot

If you're out of the loop, Tekashi 6ix9ine is a convicted statutory rapist, gangbanger and woman basher who revels in the negative attention he receives and stirs as much drama as he can to maintain exposure. I mean check out his Wikipedia page:

Spoiler: Fucking children

Hernandez was involved in a child sexual performance charge from 2015. In October 2015, Hernandez pled guilty to a felony count of use of a child in a sexual performance. He was charged with three counts of the offense after a February 2015 incident in which he had physical contact with a 13-year-old girl and later distributed videos of the incident online as part of a music video. Three videos are described in the criminal complaint against Hernandez. In the first, "the child engages in oral sexual intercourse with the separately charged defendant Taquan Anderson, while the defendant, Daniel Hernandez, stands behind the child making a thrusting motion with his pelvis and smacking her on her buttocks. The child is nude in the video." The other videos show the child sitting on Hernandez's lap while Anderson gropes her breasts and later sitting naked across the laps of Anderson and Hernandez.

Spoiler: The weak should fear the strong

On July 12, 2018, Hernandez was arrested in New York for an outstanding warrant related to an incident where he allegedly choked a 16-year-old in The Galleria shopping mall in Houston, Texas, in January 2018. All charges were eventually dropped after the teenager decided not to take legal action.

Spoiler: Bashing women, part un

On September 10, 2019, Hernandez admitted to years of domestic violence in a cooperation agreement. A section of Hernandez's cooperation agreement with the government, which had not previously been made public, listed a number of crimes that he committed and for which the government agreed not to prosecute him. On the list, explained Judge Paul Engelmayer, was that Hernandez "admits domestic violence from 2011 to November, 2018." Accusations of domestic violence against Hernandez first came to light in early 2019, including a detailed Daily Beast article that featured testimony from the rapper's ex-girlfriend (and the mother of his daughter), Sara Molina, that he beat her over a period of seven years—a timeline that corresponds to Hernandez's own admission, though no names of victims were mentioned in court. Molina told the Daily Beast about numerous incidents of abuse, including one beating in Dubai that left her face so swollen that she says, "I could barely open my eyes."

Spoiler: Bashing women, part deux

Molina said Hernandez falsely accused her of sleeping with Kifano “Shotti” Jordan, his manager who reportedly recruited Hernandez to become a member of the violent Nine Trey Gangsta Bloods street gang. When Molina denied cheating on him, she says he punched her out of nowhere, driving "a hair extension into her scalp." "I was leaking blood," she said. "There was blood on the hotel pillow cases. He got scared." Molina told the Daily Beast that she didn't report the assaults to the police, though she provided the news outlet with photos she said were taken shortly after the attacks, showing bruises and cuts. She continued to detail that Hernandez proceeded “beating me for two hours straight,” she claims “He punched me so hard in my right ear I thought I was deaf.” Molina describes that Hernandez punched, kicked and choked her, leaving her with two black eyes and multiple bruises. She then went on to allege that he sexually assaulted her next morning, “He woke up, forced me to have sex with him,” she said. “I cried.” Molina described another incident that took place in April 2017, in which 6ix9ine beat her in a car in front of her daughter, then a year old, who started screaming and crying. Molina alleges that after she questioned Hernandez about a stripper he had been hanging out with, “He dragged me by my hair and slapped me in my face,” which resulted in a black eye. Hernandez admitted physically abusing his ex-girlfriend again in an interview with The New York Times in 2020.

He also has another Top 40 song featuring another rapper who was found guilty of possession of weapons and who fired into crowds of randos on multiple occasions literally phoning his guest spot in from jail. And that's just from guy. Zoomers by and large don't care about "problematic" artists, they revel in retarded nihilistic irony culture. The Twittertards who lead the charge to cancel people are largely millennials, more specifically young-mid millennials with the older zooms making up a decent chunk too. Zoomers barely care about rock music in general, if a mob is trying to ruin [pop-punk band #201] it's because they're in the age bracket that gives a damn about pop punk i.e. people who grew up in the late 90s/2000s i.e. younger millennials.

 

[NoReturn]

Another day another STARBIES!

I want to shove this guy into a locker.

 

[grimacefetishist]

Brands emerged at the dawn of civilization so people would know the quality of whatever good they were buying and there's 2,000 year old examples of Greeks and Romans putting their names on products. For all we know, there was some guy in the Roman Empire obsessed with vases or hammers made by a certain craftsman or who knew and collected every flavor of salt mined in whatever province. And maybe he had a wife or daughter obsessed with collecting makeup and cosmetics. Human nature never changes.

Hey guys, can we chisel out a cave to shit talk ea nasir? His copper fucking sucks andd's I'd love to know more about him