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Best "Living Dead" Movie?

  • Diary of the Dead (2008)

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  • Survival of the Dead (2010)

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  • Return of the Living Dead: Necropolis (2005)

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Speaking of Nightmare City, Tom Savini is directing a remake right now.
Let's hope it's not terrible.
 
Speaking of Nightmare City, Tom Savini is directing a remake right now.
Let's hope it's not terrible.
He's been attached to it for years now. Going on a decade I think. Why Nightmare City of all things? Who knows? And the poster they're using to sell the thing still say's "Presented by Umberto Lenzi" when Lenzi has been dead for 2 years now.

That out of the way, I think Tom can make a great zombie film. His Night of the Living Dead remake was hampered by the producers and Romero who wanted it to be more like the original whereas Savini (wisely) wanted it to be more different. That is of course the #1 complaint with his remake that it's too similar to the original. The fallout of that debacle ended Savini and Romero's friendship for a number of years too.
 
Also, I just looked it up and the main actress for the remake of Nightmare City is a pornstar.
If that doesn't fill you with hope, I don't know what does.
 
Hey! Traci Lords is a fine actress.
too bad in the US you can find what, one? two of the films she made?

Still, it will be interesting to see tom get back in the director's chair and have free reign to do what he wants this time and not be hampered by George so much. Honestly when I heard George despite only being a writer and producer on the NOTLD remake wanted tom to stay as close to the original as possible I thought; Why not just direct it yourself and have Tom do the effects like when you guys made Day five years earlier?


Also a shame to hear that fallout from NOTLD 90 strained their friendship, Is that why tom was only making a a brief cameo in Land?
 
She was pretty good in the John Waters films she was in, Cry-Baby and Serial Mom. She's had a fairly consistent series of small roles in films, and roles in small films, as well as TV appearances. Here's a list of her non-porn output: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords_filmography
Well I'll be damned! Not to turn this into a second porn and porn cows thread but damn, she actually DID have a mainstream film career in addition to porn. these days most girls who are doing porn are either bragging about it as "feminist" and "empowering," or saying it's just till they get a big break into something mainstream. Like being a stripper to pay for college or until they get a modeling contract.

but yeah the porn thread's down the hall to the left soooooo something zombie related....

"The brain is the engine Sarah! The motor that drives them! They don't need any blood flow, don't need any of their internal organs! I've severed all the vital organs in this one, there's nothing left of the corpse but brain and limbs and still it functions! Look Sarah!"

*NOM NOM NOM*

"See? It wants me! It wants food! but it has no stomach it can take no nourishment from what it ingests! It's working on instinct! A deep dark primordial instinct!"



Richard Liberty just sells that scene perfectly, and on second viewings you can tell Dr. Logan was already more or less gone mentally. He's wasting time, effort, and resources in a fruitless attempt to try and teach the zombies to behave based on things he must have known years ago. Not to mention messing with the bodies of Rhode's men, something he was not happy with when he found out.

Bonus: Holy shit Not only was Joe Pilato in character as Rhodes for the last 30 years he was based on blackpilled before it was a thing!
 
Hey they still got cigars in the desk!

You do know those are left over from the Clinton administration right?

*proceeds to smoke it anyway*
 
Well I'll be damned! Not to turn this into a second porn and porn cows thread but damn, she actually DID have a mainstream film career in addition to porn. these days most girls who are doing porn are either bragging about it as "feminist" and "empowering," or saying it's just till they get a big break into something mainstream. Like being a stripper to pay for college or until they get a modeling contract.

but yeah the porn thread's down the hall to the left soooooo something zombie related....

"The brain is the engine Sarah! The motor that drives them! They don't need any blood flow, don't need any of their internal organs! I've severed all the vital organs in this one, there's nothing left of the corpse but brain and limbs and still it functions! Look Sarah!"

*NOM NOM NOM*

"See? It wants me! It wants food! but it has no stomach it can take no nourishment from what it ingests! It's working on instinct! A deep dark primordial instinct!"



Richard Liberty just sells that scene perfectly, and on second viewings you can tell Dr. Logan was already more or less gone mentally. He's wasting time, effort, and resources in a fruitless attempt to try and teach the zombies to behave based on things he must have known years ago. Not to mention messing with the bodies of Rhode's men, something he was not happy with when he found out.

Bonus: Holy shit Not only was Joe Pilato in character as Rhodes for the last 30 years he was based on blackpilled before it was a thing!

Joe Pilato was a true legend

Fun fact: He later did a lot of voice acting for cartoons and anime in the 90's and very early 2000's. Most notably, he was MetalGreymon and Wargreymon on Digimon
 
She was pretty good in the John Waters films she was in, Cry-Baby and Serial Mom. She's had a fairly consistent series of small roles in films, and roles in small films, as well as TV appearances. Here's a list of her non-porn output: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords_filmography
yeah she had a decent run in direct-to-video-ish movies, a bunch of cheap scifi including Virtuosity and The Asylum's A Princess Of Mars, did some music, lots of odds and ends
the stuff I've seen she's def putting in a decent effort on her part but obviously she's there because "lol the porn chick"
 
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yeah she had a decent run in direct-to-video-ish movies, a bunch of cheap scifi including Virtuosity and The Asylum's A Princess Of Mars, did some music, lots of odds and ends
the stuff I've seen she's def putting in a decent effort on her part but obviously she's there because "lol the porn chick"
She was very good in Excision, too.

Also, a Day of the Dead TV show is headed to Sci Fi channel. 10 episode first season. Probably going to suck.
 
She was very good in Excision, too.

Also, a Day of the Dead TV show is headed to Sci Fi channel. 10 episode first season. Probably going to suck.

Lemme guess, it's based on the shitty remake to cash in on Army of the Dead?
 
She was very good in Excision, too.

Also, a Day of the Dead TV show is headed to Sci Fi channel. 10 episode first season. Probably going to suck.
Ah yes because the network that gave us mgfs Can be trusted with day of the dead. Seriously what is it with this determination to piss on George Romero's grave? First creepshow now this. Just let the man rest in peace without fucking up his creations.

Lemme guess, it's based on the shitty remake to cash in on Army of the Dead?
And if not they're no doubt gonna flanderize Rhodes and his men and make them even more racist and possibly try to rape Sarah.


Look I know in the original we're not supposed to like the soldiers they're meant to be secondary villains to the zombies but that's the point.

In the 80s the military was practically sucked off by every major Hollywood studio and glorified in everything from Rambo to Red dawn. For Romero to portray them as corrupt and in an unflattering way it was actually a bold thing to do back then.

But the thing is he understood a good hero is only as good as their villian. So he made sure to have Rhodes, rickles, Steele and the others to have funny or cool lines to things do to keep them likeable but still villainous.

Oh well we'll always have the original untouchable classic surprised it's still uploaded in full unofficially on YouTube
 
so on a somewhat happier note has anyone ever seen 2008's Dance of the dead?

It definitely has a lot of homages to classic (and some not so classic) Zombie films, I get vibes from everything from Return of the living dead 1 and 2, night of the living dead, cemetery man, Reanimator, even evil dead just from this trailer alone. and hell with it coming out a year before zombieland, it almost feels like its some kinda unofficial prequel, almost like this is what Columbus and Witchita were like before the apocalypse.


However it's not perfect, at times the production can look kinda cheap, almost made for TV cheap which isn't a stretch since this was originally a direct to DVD/ on demand release. some of the humor falls flat and some of the characters are kinda forgettable and dull. The Coach was a riot though also good luck having a character in current year that owns a confederate flag unless he's a KKK or qanon member.

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Ah yes because the network that gave us mgfs Can be trusted with day of the dead. Seriously what is it with this determination to piss on George Romero's grave? First creepshow now this. Just let the man rest in peace without fucking up his creations.

In fairness, they also gave us Blood Drive, which was a hell of a lot of fun (even if it fell apart in the final 2-3 episodes).

Of course, they also cancelled it after one season...
 
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Look I know in the original we're not supposed to like the soldiers they're meant to be secondary villains to the zombies but that's the point.
Even as villains, though, Rhodes was given opportunity to express his viewpoint, whether or not it was contextualized as wrong. He had a point that the medical establishment, as personified by Dr. Logan, was absolutely insane. Logan himself was absolutely insane. He was literally feeding zombies human flesh as part of a positive/negative reinforcement scheme that was incredibly unethical.

Was Rhodes really wrong?
 
Even as villains, though, Rhodes was given opportunity to express his viewpoint, whether or not it was contextualized as wrong. He had a point that the medical establishment, as personified by Dr. Logan, was absolutely insane. Logan himself was absolutely insane. He was literally feeding zombies human flesh as part of a positive/negative reinforcement scheme that was incredibly unethical.

Was Rhodes really wrong?

Exactly. That's one of the many aspects of the film that makes it great. (I recently rewatched it, and it was much better than I remembered.) Everyone has a point of view that makes sense.

Rhodes and the soldiers are right to demand there be some legitimate reason for the continued experiments because resources are scarce and getting more scarce. And they're definitely right to be angry that Logan is basically waiting for them to die so he can cut them open or feed them to test subjects without telling anyone. Rhodes comes across as a guy who can't really hack it as "the boss," a guy "promoted" a few steps past his competency ceiling due to circumstance. And his men seem like the meanest, least sentimental people you would expect to survive while everyone else died. But they don't come across like monsters, just frustrated, frightened, and sometimes monstrous people.

Logan and the scientists are right to be studying the phenomenon despite the odds being against them that they'll discover anything useful. What else are they supposed to do? Even Logan's screwing around with Bub is revealing something they'll probably have to know about zombies if they're going to survive in this new world. (I love how the stuff with Bub remembering his life doesn't feel like it came out of nowhere in the series, too.)

And the civilians are right, too. Why not just get away and live their lives? The odds are low they'll really affect anything at this point. They're really treading water in a room that was never intended to flood.
 
Bub was great. I‘ve always loved how ever runs with the line that he was in the army because of him saluting Rhodes, but he did a Boy Scout salute. I know that it may have been because his dead hands were stiff, but it looks like it was on purpose to me
 
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That's what I love about these older zpmbie/horror movies here we are almost 40 years after their release still talking about it still discussing and asking who's right and who's wrong.

I know it's not zombie related but the same thing almost happened with John carpenter's the thing. 40 years since its release as of next year and there are still fan theories, fan timelines, and discussions of who was and wasn't infected and when. Not bad for a movie that was originally highly hated when it was first released
 
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