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current plan for ''return to normality'' in quebec; Pretty much meaningless still too strict too slow, just to show they're doing something will actually doing nothing
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28 may:
curfew removal
Outdoor dining allowed
outside gathering allowed* 8 person max or peoples in 2 different house (with 2 meter distantion, of course)

11 june
outdoor bar opening
outdoor sport allowed* 25 people max
 
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So right now mask wearing is virtue signaling for the Branch COVIDians. And many vow to keep wearing masks forever. But Biden has p much said if you don't get the vax you gotta wear a mask forever.

My prediction: everything will reverse. In a few months nobody will wear masks if they get the vax. You will be forced to wear one in many situations if you haven't. Then wearing a mask will be a sign you are a vaccine-denying, Trump-loving Qanon science hater.

At which point I will be like "WTF I love masks now!"


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Exactly. Governments do not have the capacity or competence to police trillions of social interactions to make sure everyone have had their shots.

I believe that only the Israelis have tried to bring in Covid passports, and it's being widely flouted. Even the CCP aren't going down this route.

Maybe some European countries will try it, maybe the Germans? (They love rules and making people show their papers). Ultimately it will be laughably easy to get around any requirements. Folks should take the W and move on, there will be no dystopian vaccine passports.


lol no wonder Pfizer is assmad at Pajeet.

Not joking around it seems Novavax might actually be the safest choice here. Large American pharmaceutical that's using the same method as the Hep B vaccine might be one of the less questionable options. I trust nothing out of China so sinovac is out and the Indian vaccine is in well India.
Attenuated vaccines have proven to be incredibly dangerous when used for Coronaviruses. I can't believe the Indians are actually injecting people with that crap.

The Chinese vaccine will do nothing to protect you against Covid (which explains why countries who're using it have seen rising case numbers) but it won't harm anyone and it definitely won't leave you with unique antibodies that can be targeted by bad actors in the future.

Now that it's pretty much accepted that Covid either leaked or was deliberately released from the Wuhan lab maybe we can discuss why the Chinese are choosing not to vaccinate their own people with mRNA vaccines without being accused of being a conspiracy theorist?

It isn't because the Chinks are backward serfs and it isn't because western pharma won't sell to them (as we know big pharma doesn't hate money). So why are they injecting their own population with a placebo when there are vaccines that actually work, at least to an extent? It's like they have something planned for the future.
 
Exactly. Governments do not have the capacity or competence to police trillions of social interactions to make sure everyone have had their shots.

I believe that only the Israelis have tried to bring in Covid passports, and it's being widely flouted. Even the CCP aren't going down this route.

Maybe some European countries will try it, maybe the Germans? (They love rules and making people show their papers). Ultimately it will be laughably easy to get around any requirements. Folks should take the W and move on, there will be no dystopian vaccine passports.



Attenuated vaccines have proven to be incredibly dangerous when used for Coronaviruses. I can't believe the Indians are actually injecting people with that crap.

The Chinese vaccine will do nothing to protect you against Covid (which explains why countries who're using it have seen rising case numbers) but it won't harm anyone and it definitely won't leave you with unique antibodies that can be targeted by bad actors in the future.

Now that it's pretty much accepted that Covid either leaked or was deliberately released from the Wuhan lab maybe we can discuss why the Chinese are choosing not to vaccinate their own people with mRNA vaccines without being accused of being a conspiracy theorist?

It isn't because the Chinks are backward serfs and it isn't because western pharma won't sell to them (as we know big pharma doesn't hate money). So why are they injecting their own population with a placebo when there are vaccines that actually work, at least to an extent? It's like they have something planned for the future.
Something popped in my head.

That serial killer who dressed as a clown.

What he did as a joke was cuff kids to the bed.

It was to train them to accept the position when he was for real.

So they might be lulling folks to accept shots until its time to "reduce the population"


Also masks can aid and assist in commiting crimes.
 
Imagine if you were someone who allowed their entire life to be ruined for a year over this, and how you’d feel knowing that based on no new research, no new trigger, the CDC just went boom ok you guise you do you!!! Out of nowhere, no guidance for anything, no word about unvaccinated kids, like normally you’d expect an announcement it was being reviewed and considered, and some sort of guidance would be coming, say a few weeks out, and there would be fanfare etc, but this came overnight.
The thing that gets me is how the CDC and other "authoritative" entities would reverse course or contradict themselves with little or no explanation. It would be one thing if they said something such as, "We told you to do X, but we're now asking you to not do X because further research shows that it doesn't reduce the spread of COVID as much as originally thought." Instead, we're given conflicting directives with no explanation or reasoning. It's no wonder that average normies often threw their hands up in frustration and decided to do whatever they wanted since they didn't know who or what to believe. Even some of the doomers I know admitted that the conflicting information often caused more problems than it solved.

Every time I've been out walking, all I see is discarded masks. No joke, they've replaced the discarded condoms and crisp packets almost completely.
They're everywhere and seem to be more prevalent than dandelions right now. Just today, I found 2 or 3 in close proximity to each other in a public parking lot. I can't say I'm too surprised, though, given some people's tendencies to leave their trash every place but the trash can.
 
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Something popped in my head.

That serial killer who dressed as a clown.

What he did as a joke was cuff kids to the bed.

It was to train them to accept the position when he was for real.

So they might be lulling folks to accept shots until its time to "reduce the population"


Also masks can aid and assist in commiting crimes.
If you're talking about Gacey, what he would do is get the kid drunk while we "pretended to drink." Then he would show off a 'magic trick' wherein he has his hands tied with this contraption he has and then escapes. He would offer to teach the boy how to do it himself, get it on him, and then that was it. There was no trick, he just wasn't drunk and could slight of hand.

Exactly. Governments do not have the capacity or competence to police trillions of social interactions to make sure everyone have had their shots.

I believe that only the Israelis have tried to bring in Covid passports, and it's being widely flouted. Even the CCP aren't going down this route.

Maybe some European countries will try it, maybe the Germans? (They love rules and making people show their papers). Ultimately it will be laughably easy to get around any requirements. Folks should take the W and move on, there will be no dystopian vaccine passports.



Attenuated vaccines have proven to be incredibly dangerous when used for Coronaviruses. I can't believe the Indians are actually injecting people with that crap.

The Chinese vaccine will do nothing to protect you against Covid (which explains why countries who're using it have seen rising case numbers) but it won't harm anyone and it definitely won't leave you with unique antibodies that can be targeted by bad actors in the future.

Now that it's pretty much accepted that Covid either leaked or was deliberately released from the Wuhan lab maybe we can discuss why the Chinese are choosing not to vaccinate their own people with mRNA vaccines without being accused of being a conspiracy theorist?

It isn't because the Chinks are backward serfs and it isn't because western pharma won't sell to them (as we know big pharma doesn't hate money). So why are they injecting their own population with a placebo when there are vaccines that actually work, at least to an extent? It's like they have something planned for the future.
I mean I'm not interested in any of these vaccines. From what I understand hearing discussion, the patriarch of the family in India that runs their vaccine industry is highly skeptical of mRNA and prefers a traditional vaccine. Hence why they appear to be going for the attenuated design. I'm still debating personally that the chinese are just shipping placebos. At least it won't kill people right?
 
If you're talking about Gacey, what he would do is get the kid drunk while we "pretended to drink." Then he would show off a 'magic trick' wherein he has his hands tied with this contraption he has and then escapes. He would offer to teach the boy how to do it himself, get it on him, and then that was it. There was no trick, he just wasn't drunk and could slight of hand.


I mean I'm not interested in any of these vaccines. From what I understand hearing discussion, the patriarch of the family in India that runs their vaccine industry is highly skeptical of mRNA and prefers a traditional vaccine. Hence why they appear to be going for the attenuated design. I'm still debating personally that the chinese are just shipping placebos. At least it won't kill people right?
Point is to train people to accept getting jabbed with something other then a placebo. Jim Jones did same thing.
 
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Something popped in my head.

That serial killer who dressed as a clown.

What he did as a joke was cuff kids to the bed.

It was to train them to accept the position when he was for real.

So they might be lulling folks to accept shots until its time to "reduce the population"


Also masks can aid and assist in commiting crimes.
Doesn't even have to be that nefarious.
Just training the population to accept medical treatments or restrictions to their personal freedom without a proper explanation is bad enough.
At least here in Germany we'll definitely get climate lockdowns and rolling blackouts/rationing of electricity. Cutting down air travel. Not sure yet what training people to accept pointless medical treatments would bring, I don't believe in population reduction and all that jazz. I think the point is more that the people accept to give up their bodily integrity over flimsy reasons, not much more.
 
The MSM will have to find another narrative for the cases of corona-chan in India.
Coronavirus cases are plummeting in India thanks to new rules that promote Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to its massive population.

Of course, the WHO and pharmaceutical companies are having fits.
This is despite the fact that lives are being saved.


The COVID Blog reported:

India has received the baton for title of COVID Capitol of the World after China, Italy and the United States held it for much of last year.
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The world second-most populace country after China had fewer than 138,000 total active COVID cases in early February 2021. That’s the lowest figure since January 2020. India active COVID cases sit around 3.6 million today, according to the India Ministry of Health and Family Welfare. Mainstream media are blaming the massive spike on a “scary, mutant variant” called B.1.617…
…The India health ministry updated its guidelines on April 28 for quarantines, treating the asymptomatic and those with mild symptoms of COVID-19. The agency now says that asymptomatic patients should “consider Tab Ivermectin (200 mcg/kg once a day, to be taken empty stomach) for 3 to 5 days.” Caregivers of patients in quarantine are instructed to “take Hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis as per protocol and as prescribed by the treating medical officer.” See the full document here.
There are 292 studies (219 are peer-reviewed) proving the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine as both a treatment and prophylaxis against COVID-19. Ivermectin has 93 studies (54 peer-reviewed) showing its effectiveness as treatment and prophylaxis against COVID-19. Despite the now-indisputable fact that these drugs essentially kill COVID-19 within hours or days, the Bill Gates-funded World Health Organization (WHO) and big pharma are having fits over India’s new guidelines and the results.
And now the COVID cases are plummeting.

Via Worldometers.
 
The MSM will have to find another narrative for the cases of corona-chan in India.
Hmm, it's almost as if treating COVID like you would any other infection works. Experts(tm) are puzzled.
 
When half our population rolled over and accepted the covid overreaction and a sizeable percentage begged for even less freedoms to combat a cold I changed my mind about the whole population reduction scheme. Maybe Gates and his fellow elites just came to the same realization before the rest of us?
 
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current plan for ''return to normality'' in quebec; Pretty much meaningless still too strict too slow, just to show they're doing something will actually doing nothing
--re--
28 may:
curfew removal
Outdoor dining allowed
outside gathering allowed* 8 person max or peoples in 2 different house (with 2 meter distantion, of course)

11 june
outdoor bar opening
outdoor sport allowed* 25 people max

The whole of Canada is a fucking joke right now. Quebec apparently isn’t even “that” bad compared to the provinces east of it.

Canadians will put up with literally anything and refuse to fight back, heck many support their freedoms being trampeled. Some of the most passive, meek people in the history of human society.
 
Late as fuck but whatever:
The time for personal responsibility taking over was last March you fucking walnut.

Those job and inflation numbers scared the fuck out of people in power positions in DC.

The fact that the current government could not see this coming (or realize that it would be too massive to hide) is just more proof that they don’t know what the fuck they are doing. Fire everyone and start over.

Outside of international travel, vaccine passports just aren't going to work at this point. The setup time frame for it has passed.
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Maybe some European countries will try it, maybe the Germans? (They love rules and making people show their papers). Ultimately it will be laughably easy to get around any requirements. Folks should take the W and move on, there will be no dystopian vaccine passports.
I've heard that Denmark is demanding proof of vax to enter shops and such.
 

New Research Suggests Number of Kids Hospitalized for COVID Is Overcounted​

The reported number of COVID-19 hospitalizations, one of the primary metrics for tracking the severity of the coronavirus pandemic, was grossly inflated for children in California hospitals, two research papers published Wednesday concluded. The papers, both published in the journal Hospital Pediatrics, found that pediatric hospitalizations for COVID-19 were overcounted by at least 40 percent, carrying potential implications for nationwide figures.

Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious-diseases specialist at the University of California, San Francisco, and Amy Beck, an associate professor of pediatrics, also at UCSF, wrote a commentary for Hospital Pediatrics that accompanied the two studies. They wrote, “Taken together, these studies underscore the importance of clearly distinguishing between children hospitalized with SARS-CoV-2 found on universal testing versus those hospitalized for COVID-19 disease.” The studies demonstrate, they said, that reported hospitalization rates “greatly overestimate the true burden of COVID-19 disease in children.” Gandhi told Intelligencer that while the studies were both conducted with data from California hospitals, “there is no reason to think these findings would be exclusive to California. This sort of retrospective chart review will likely reveal the same findings across the country.”

The implications of the findings of these two studies are enormously important, as reports of pediatric hospitalizations have regularly made headlines over the past year, greatly affecting public perceptions about risks to children. Untold numbers of parents have kept children home from school or limited playdates and other activities out of fear their children would be infected and fall seriously ill. The hospitalization numbers for children were already extremely low relative to adults — at the pandemic’s peak this winter, it was roughly ten times lower than for 18-to-49-year-olds and 77 times lower than those age 65 and up. But cutting the pediatric numbers by nearly half is a striking difference, making the actual rates vanishingly small. Pediatric hospitalization figures for COVID-19 also influence policy on school openings and guidelines, camp recommendations, and other political decisions. Gandhi and Beck’s commentary noted, “Children have suffered tremendously due to policies that have kept schools and recreational facilities closed to them, and the burden has been greatest on children who are low-income and English-language learners.”

In one study, conducted at a children’s hospital in Northern California, among the 117 pediatric SARS-CoV2-positive patients hospitalized between May 10, 2020, and February 10, 2021, the authors concluded that 53 of them (or 45 percent) “were unlikely to be caused by SARS-CoV-2.” The reasons for hospital admission for these “unlikely” patients included surgeries, cancer treatment, a psychiatric episode, urologic issues, and various infections such as cellulitis, among other diagnoses. The study also found that 46 (or 39.3 percent) of patients coded as SARS-CoV2 positive were asymptomatic. In other words, despite patients’ testing positive for the virus as part of the hospital’s universal screening, COVID-19 symptoms were absent, therefore it was not the reason for the hospitalization. Any instance where the link between a positive SARS-CoV2 test and cause of admission was uncertain the authors erred toward giving a “likely” categorization.

In the second study, at the fifth-largest children’s hospital in the country, out of 146 records listing patients as positive for SARS-CoV-2 from May 1, 2020, to September 30, 2020, the authors classified 58 (40 percent) as having “incidental” diagnosis, meaning there was no documentation of COVID-19 symptoms prior to hospitalization. Like the first study, and as has been typical around the nation, this hospital implemented universal testing of inpatients for SARS-CoV-2. An example of incidentally SARS-CoV-2-positive patients are those who came to the hospital because of fractures. Patients who may have had COVID-19 symptoms but who had a clearly documented alternative reason for them, such as a child with abdominal pain and fever found to be related to an abdominal abscess, were also deemed to have incidental diagnosis. The study categorized 68 patients, or 47 percent, as “potentially symptomatic,” which was defined as when “COVID-19 was not the primary reason for admission for these patients, and COVID-19 alone did not directly require hospitalization without the concomitant condition.” Examples of these patients were those with acute appendicitis, since that condition includes gastrointestinal symptoms that may also present in COVID-19.

To be certain, there are other effects of COVID-19 on children that are separate from hospitalization. But the studies provide a critical retrospective look at how the reported pediatric COVID-19 hospitalization rates amplified the impression of the true extent of the virus’s impact on children. Moreover, the findings arrive as parents have begun vaccinating children under the expedited “emergency-use authorization” against a virus that, these findings suggest, poses a dramatically lower incidence of pediatric hospitalizations than the data have shown thus far. Stefan Baral, an infectious-diseases epidemiologist and physician at Johns Hopkins, wrote in the British Medical Journal about the risk-benefit calculus of vaccinating children against a disease that poses a “very low likelihood of severe outcomes” to them, which, he argued, means it does not meet the definition of an “emergency.” These studies weigh the scales even further toward that conclusion. The findings, Baral told Intelligencer, “reinforce the importance of going through a meaningful process to understand the risks to children.”

Explaining why the official tallies were found to be so far off, Baral said the electronic databases that hospitals use are administrative in purpose, meant for billing, resource management, et cetera. “They were not designed to infer the prevalence and severity of an infectious virus.” We have a desire for instant, accurate data, he said, but validation takes time.

“It is critical that the risks of COVID-19 to children be portrayed accurately,” Gandhi and Beck wrote. “Scientific and media reports that inaccurately portray the risk of COVID-19 to children can do harm by alarming parents and providing justification for ongoing restrictions to in-person education and other programming. Via these studies, parents and policy-makers should be reassured that pediatric hospitalization for severe COVID-19 disease is indeed rare.”

Neither paper addressed the accuracy of pediatric mortality rates attributed to COVID-19, nor that of adult patients categorized as COVID-19 hospitalizations. But, Gandhi and Baral both noted, these findings clearly illustrate the need to perform similar retrospective chart reviews for COVID-19-coded adult hospitalizations and overall mortality.
Much to nobody's surprise, the amount of children affected by COVID is overestimated.


Point is to train people to accept getting jabbed with something other then a placebo. Jim Jones did same thing.
Yeah see problem is they already could have done that.
In fact if anything this chimpout effort to get everyone vaccinated has made more skeptics.
 
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Nasty Girls going around in Dallas giving people covid shots whether they like it or not.

Yes, there's twitter links in the thread.
Lol...one of main rules is to not make B.S. up when your opponent is already a moron. It's like all the Russia, Pissgate, etc. the left made up about Trump. The guy already does stupid things no need to make crap up about him.

With this, the unarmed NG is just offering vaccines in public. If someone is so enamoured by the uniform that they change their position on not getting vaccinated, they are a moron.

Nancy Reagan said it best,
"Just Say No!"

Edit: I am an idiot. Why even engage? Just do the walk around:
 
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I don't know if already mentioned but in my country, there is a millitary man (46) on the loose that threatend to kill our famous virologist. The Dr. Fauci of Belgium so to speak.
They are blurring his face on the news, even though we have to be on the lookout for him and they already painted him as a far-right extremist for some reason. He stole millitary grade weapons and a vehicle. Here's the link to BBC article:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57168576
 
Nasty Girls going around in Dallas giving people covid shots whether they like it or not.

Yes, there's twitter links in the thread.
Yea, in Deep Ellum. Where bar fights and shoot outs happen for less. It's a garbage stank ditch of an area and is used as a body dumping ground cause Dallas PD has been short staffed for years. Only time it's properly manned is when the state fair is in town and even then it isn't worth going to the area.

It's the "arts and entertainment" district of Dallas but it's better to stay far away from the area for several reasons.
 
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