Freaked by cicada swarms? You could just stick a fork in ’em - Eat the bugs article #2853

Freaked by cicada swarms? You could just stick a fork in ’em​

https://apnews.com/article/eating-brood-x-cicadas-bfd249381c3947b3881a8f0bd19e6ead (https://archive.ph/K5NrD)

NEW YORK (AP) — Cicadas are poised to infest whole swaths of American backyards this summer. Maybe it’s time they invaded your kitchen.

Swarms of the red-eyed bugs, who are reemerging after 17 years below ground, offer a chance for home cooks to turn the tables and make them into snacks.

Full of protein, gluten-free, low-fat and low-carb, cicadas were used as a food source by Native Americans and are still eaten by humans in many countries.

“We really have to get over our dislike of insects, which is really strong and deep-seated in most people in our culture,” said David George Gordon, author of “Eat-a-Bug Cookbook” and known as the Bug Chef.

“You could make stir fry. You can mix them into dough to make bread — make banana bread, let’s say. You can batter them and deep fry them, which I think would be my favorite way,” he said.

This year’s group is called Brood X, and they can be seen in 15 Eastern states from Indiana to Georgia to New York. Their cacophonous mating song can drown out the noise of passing jets.

When the soil warms up enough, cicadas emerge from the ground, where they’ve been sucking moisture from tree roots for the past 13 or 17 years, depending on species. They shed their exoskeletons, attach themselves to branches, mate and lay eggs before dying off in about six weeks.

When eating adult cicadas, it’s advised to pull the wings and legs off to reduce the crunchiness. But Gordon advises home cooks to gather the cicadas when they’re nymphs, before their body armor hardens and while they are still soft and chewy, like soft shell crab.

He puts them in the freezer, a humane way to kill them. Once defrosted, cicadas can become a pizza topping like sundried tomatoes, or replace shrimp in any recipe. Others have followed his lead, including a University of Maryland cookbook dedicated to the cicada.

“People can’t really deal with the idea of looking at a bug and eating it. So that’s why I like tempura batter or something that just conceals the features of the nymph,” Gordon said. “Plus, I’ll eat anything that’s deep fried. I have a recipe in my book for a deep-fried tarantula spider and they’re really good.”

Gordon’s “Eat-a-Bug Cookbook” came out in 1998 and was greeted by hostility and jokes from late-night TV hosts. “But of course, over the last 20 years, this is moving in the direction of being normalized,” he said.

Gordon pointed to the rise of foodie culture and thrill-seeking eaters like chef Andrew Zimmern, but especially to a 2013 report from the United Nation’s Food and Agriculture Organization as a turning point in interest in edible insects. The report estimated that insect-eating is practiced regularly by at least 2 billion people around the world, and that dozens of species have been documented as edible, including cicadas.

It also declared that edible insects are rich in protein and good fats, high in calcium, iron and zinc, emit fewer greenhouse gases than most livestock, and take very little farming space or water.

“Now people were taking what I had been saying all along more seriously,” Gordon said. In America, “We’re kind of the weirdos: 80% of the world’s cultures eat insects, but we’re in that 20% that thinks it’s an abomination.”

The number of mass-produced foods containing insects — from protein bars to chips and pasta sauce — has been rising. In parts of Asia, some insects are sold in bags like salted peanuts or in tubes like stacked potato chips. A German company makes burgers out of mealworms.

“They’re a much healthier option for the planet,” said Dr. Jenna Jadin, an evolutionary biologist and ecologist who has worked as a climate change adviser for UN agencies like the Food and Agriculture Organization. “Especially in light of the fact that we will shortly have to feed 9 billion people.”

Jadin notes with a laugh that once the mighty, high-cost lobster was deemed so repulsive in the West that it was fed to prisoners. “Perceptions change,” she said.

She notes that the Food and Agriculture Organization estimates about 18% of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions are due to animal agriculture.

Adventurous eaters might start with insects at the Newport Jerky Company, which has stores in Massachusetts and Rhode Island and a vibrant online presence. Its insect section includes a bag of grasshoppers for $9.99 or chocolate-covered crickets for $6.99.

Co-owner Derek Medico said he sells one item — a $9.99 mixed bag of dehydrated grasshoppers, mole crickets, silkworms, crickets and sago worms — thousands of times a year. “I think a lot of it just the novelty,” he said.

And he doesn’t expect to see consistent demand for insects anytime soon.

“In other countries and other cultures, that’s much more accepted and much more normal,” he said. “But here, I just think it’s just going to take a while.”
 
It's so draining to live in this cyberpunk dystopia with corrupt elite constantly attacking freedom in so many ways. They really do want us "little people" reduced to miserable cybernetic slaves or the like. Too bad real life doesn't seem to be the kind of cyberpunk dystopia where a team of heroes can thwart them...
Not to be mean, but this "cyberpunk dystopia" sucks dick. There are no cool cars, no Kowloon Walled City styled metropolises with flying cars, no head turning super advancements in technology that allows us practically what we see in sci fi, no mind jacking into a cyber world, no super PDAs with personalized advanced AI programs that help to navigate massive memory CPUs, nor motivated and well principled people who want to ride the wave of the system and knows it better in and out than the megacorps.

Instead, we have fucking Untouchable caste Indians robbing the elderly by their naivety, cultural malaise caused by overt complacency and greed, still existent 20th Century infrastructure, corporations ironically are on edge by both an ever inflating currency around the world and the shock of a recession and are too afraid to do anything innovative, and the few cyber attacks I can recall are a hacking into a military self defense base's systems by complete incompetency (literally, the hacker was able to get into there by a picture that had the fucking password on it) and a Florida water treatment systems was tampered with to increase the amount of fluoride or something in the water. The only closest place to reach cyberpunk world is to go to trance and rave shows.

If there is a heaven or a god, it really wants the world to taste irony in its most potent and reflective way ever. When karma comes, it fucking comes hard.
 
I'm old enough to remember the "Gay Marriage isn't a slippery slope to degeneracy bigot, we'll leave your churches alone." I knew it was bullshit then, and it's still bullshit now. It's like the crazy lady thinks we don't know about priming the pump and such. They're just laying the ground work to put it in people's heads now, the real push comes later.
You do know Transgenderism and all that other degeneracy you bitch over existed long before gays could marry right?

I'm starting to think the people who say this place is filled with Zoomers and people who only became aware of the outside world in 2015 when Trump announced his run for the white house are right.
 
China is currently well on it's way to becoming the number 2 global super power if it hasn't already and Japan and South Korea are both global tech innovators.

But sure keep pretending it's only 3rd world shitholes that eat bugs.
China's mostly a 3rd world shithole and Chinamen will eat any fucking thing that moves. They're a nice façade over trash bags and Styrofoam and they'll never be a real gobal superpower. They don't really want to be either. Regional, sure, but they can't project power for shit and their a bad rainy season away from ceasing to exist because the Three Gorges Dam is poorly engineered. If and when it goes, so does China. Fuck, almost did last rainy season, we had a thread about it.

Bugs are snack tier for the other East Asians, because they can afford to eat other things for cheap protein. South Koreans and Chinamen still eat dogs, should the West also eat those like subhuman savages? My ancestors spent centuries, perhaps millennia, beating the earth for its energy so they didn't have to eat fucking bugs like fucking savages and we westerners went on make the entire world of bug eaters our fucking bitch. Why the fuck should we we switch to the protein source of losers?

What's the bioavailability of bug protein anyways? I have a feeling it's no where near eggs or beef, and that's an important consideration. Trash-tier protein is trash.

You do know Transgenderism and all that other degeneracy you bitch over existed long before gays could marry right?

I'm starting to think the people who say this place is filled with Zoomers and people who only became aware of the outside world in 2015 when Trump announced his run for the white house are right.
No shit? You don't say. I guess I imagined arguing this shit with people, including trannies, back in the early aughts. Back when Trannies were fringe autogynophile nerd weirdos and maybe some actual dysphorics. I guess bug eating doesn't do much for reading comprehension or critical thinking skills.
 
As someone who has eaten sour cream and onion crickets, I must say they're terrible. Exoskeletons are not palatable, unless you enjoy chewing on slivers of popcorn kernel skin.
Mealworms are better, though more fattening.

I kinda wonder if the American and European taboo against eating insects has its origins less in oh noez bugs icky and moreso because there's overall fewer insects (especially really big ones that would make a good snack for humans) in those regions. The regions where insect eating is most common are all warmer areas with a large variety of insects, especially large ones.

I don't think I could ever eat a live bug but I'd be willing to try more cooked ones. If my mealworm colony ever gets as big as I'd like I want to try baking and seasoning some.
 
I just want to hear/see the cicadas again I don't want to eat them. If you are intimidated by fucking cicadas, the fucking least threatening bug out there you probably would not want to eat them. Who the fuck is this article for? I mean I know who it's for, it's for the people with no identity other than social media/article peer pressures like this. Stop telling me to eat the fucking little noisy bastards, they already got it rough enough with the cicada killer wasps and the fungal crotch rot infections. They only see the sun to mate and then fucking die it's the equivalent of telling someone to eat butterflies to save the earth yet somehow worse because of how long it takes the cicada to reach breeding stage in life.
 
Mealworms are better, though more fattening.

I kinda wonder if the American and European taboo against eating insects has its origins less in oh noez bugs icky and moreso because there's overall fewer insects (especially really big ones that would make a good snack for humans) in those regions. The regions where insect eating is most common are all warmer areas with a large variety of insects, especially large ones.

I don't think I could ever eat a live bug but I'd be willing to try more cooked ones. If my mealworm colony ever gets as big as I'd like I want to try baking and seasoning some.
I think that's the case too.

Especially when every practical argument against insect eating also applies to red meat. *parasites and sanitization are just as much a concern in red meat. *

Only anthropoids I'll never eat are spiders and scorpions cause those fuckers creep me out even dead.
 
I think that's the case too.

Especially when every practical argument against insect eating also applies to red meat. *parasites and sanitization are just as much a concern in red meat. *

Only anthropoids I'll never eat are spiders and scorpions cause those fuckers creep me out even dead.
I couldnt eat spiders or scorpions either, but because I see them as pets. That said if someone else wants to I'm ok with it as long as they're killed humanly (same with any other animal people eat).

Ngl I think all the parasites, especially tapeworms are part of why I've never been a huge fan of pork. Beef was ok but tbh I haven't eaten either since I was 17 and I don't really miss them. I've always been more into fish and other seafood i.e. crayfish, crab, mollusks, etc.

I'd be willing to try a little bit of venison though, just not enough to make me sick. Factory farms are my main issue with shit like beef, pork, and chicken and hunting animals that lived natural lives in the wild avoids that (just gotta make sure to follow the rules for safe prep, sustainability, etc).
 
I kinda wonder if the American and European taboo against eating insects has its origins less in oh noez bugs icky and moreso because there's overall fewer insects (especially really big ones that would make a good snack for humans) in those regions. The regions where insect eating is most common are all warmer areas with a large variety of insects, especially large ones.
Specifically, much of the taboo on bugs does come from the Bible/Torah and on what's kosher, this includes bugs, but specifically anything that is not a locust. It's been said that pagan tribes allegedly ate worms and bugs too, but I get that from my impressions of what has been said about Gog and Magog, which may or may not be factual.

I remembered reading about a novel where a boy did an experiment for a huge school project to help contribute and improve cooking, and his method was to make bugs edible. He had two methods I recall; one was to bake beetles to act as a kind of garnish for brownies like peanuts and walnuts, and the other was to feed earthworms applesauce to be like chicken tenders slash curly fries. Both methods involved feeding the bugs on a diet of palpable food to ensure their digestive tracts were free from any pathogens and odd tasting things, and he secretly offered them to his friends and family, which they enjoyed. He did get an A+, but he naturally got the ire of the entire school for a bit.

Granted, bugs are already with their own metaphorical bag of worms, and that being ways to properly ensure they are free of food borne illness, and to preserve them without their foodstuff spoiling, let alone not being composition and taste poor as food themselves. There's a reason why bugs are not eaten alone in cultures that do eat them, and that's because spices and additional ingredients help to make them palpable and enjoyable to eat, and hence, why, for example, Japan soaks and candies locusts and cicadas in teriyaki and China stir fries scorpions with chili oil. All of these things, we can tell, we tell the corporations to fuck off with, because they don't even bother with it.
 
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Especially when every practical argument against insect eating also applies to red meat. *parasites and sanitization are just as much a concern in red meat. *
It's a matter of calories gained versus effort/maintenance issue. Raw protein value doesn't matter when you need like 10k crickets to equal a steak. It's also why it's stupid as fuck for people to want it to become more common or even replace regular agriculture.

Hyperbole on the 10k, I think, but I believe you get the point. It's a lot harder to turn a field of grass into a shitload of edible insects than it is to just have a herd of cattle. As far as the taboo goes, it's because insects cause a natural disgust reaction, a lot of them. The places that don't have that mostly had a shitload of famines, and as common as you might think they'd be in the past they were much more common, much more recently, in the regions that don't have as much an issue with it.

I'll remind everyone here what was once turned into the breadbasket of Africa, in a century had the natives foraging for rats and insects again.
 
Specifically, much of the taboo on bugs does come from the Bible/Torah and on what's kosher, this includes bugs, but specifically anything that is not a locust. It's been said that pagan tribes allegedly ate worms and bugs too, but I get that from my impressions of what has been said about Gog and Magog, which may or may not be factual.

I remembered reading about a novel where a boy did an experiment for a huge school project to help contribute and improve cooking, and his method was to make bugs edible. He had two methods I recall; one was to bake beetles to act as a kind of garnish for brownies like peanuts and walnuts, and the other was to feed earthworms applesauce to be like chicken tenders slash curly fries. Both methods involved feeding the bugs on a diet of palpable food to ensure their digestive tracts were free from any pathogens and odd tasting things, and he secretly offered them to his friends and family, which they enjoyed. He did get an A+, but he naturally got the ire of the entire school for a bit.

Granted, bugs are already with their own metaphorical bag of worms, and that being ways to properly ensure they are free of food borne illness, and to preserve them without their foodstuff spoiling, let alone not being composition and taste poor as food themselves. There's a reason why bugs are not eaten alone in cultures that do eat them, and that's because spices and additional ingredients help to make them palpable and enjoyable to eat, and hence, why, for example, Japan soaks and candies locusts and cicadas in teriyaki and China stir fries scorpions with chili oil. All of these things, we can tell, we tell the corporations to fuck off with, because they don't even bother with it.
Even if you're feeding bugs to other animals it's good to gut load them so they're more nutritious. I feed mostly old produce to all my bugs including the feeders, and I know they even make this jelly type shit feed to crickets/dubia/etc to gutload them.

I want to get some more black solider fly larvae, especially since I want to put them in my bird feeder. They're high in calcium so I'm sure they'd be very good for the birds currently nesting/laying eggs. They're great for chickens too.
 
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Mealworms are better, though more fattening.

I kinda wonder if the American and European taboo against eating insects has its origins less in oh noez bugs icky and moreso because there's overall fewer insects (especially really big ones that would make a good snack for humans) in those regions. The regions where insect eating is most common are all warmer areas with a large variety of insects, especially large ones.
The taboo comes from the fact that eating insects is unnecessary to survival and more inefficient than breeding livestock.

They already use shellac in jelly beans, which is a gross source, but there's at least a degree of separation and it's a necessary ingredient to make jellybeans shiny. It's still processed fecal matter, but it's not as far as "eat the cicada's, poorfag" as a substitution for beef.
 
China is currently well on it's way to becoming the number 2 global super power if it hasn't already
You need to prechew the air in their cities and we push the slave labor we can't do on our own soil onto China. I couldn't care less about China's global standing, and even China is only concerned about East Asia.
 
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I really don't get it, if it's about saving the environment from ranching and battery poultry farms they could financially fuck with meat/dairy supplies and prices and a huge majority (effectively everyone) of people who don't grow their own are going to have to go vegan. Vegans I think mostly started cause they didn't want animal deaths contributing to their sustenance, a portion of new involuntary-vegans could be sold on this idea of not killing and feel pretty special about themselves. So why is eating bugs being promoted? Is it humiliation ritual? Are they going to fuck with meat and dairy financially and someone's cousin morty just so happens to be a cicada-merchant?
 
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