Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[NynchLiggers]

Damn the dude was actually good looking and he wasted it all to cash on a internet trend that will die off in less than a decade lmao

 

[1440p Curved Monitor]

I love how they believe all TERFs are white women. Why haven't more black and brown women spoken on this? Is it cause they just think it's funny to see

SO many black and brown women have spoken up against it but they are always pushed out and quelled by troons. It's explicitly clear that TRAs use black women to show that they're holier than thou to other TRAs but when it comes to BW's problems, they don't care for or listen and will shut them up if it goes against their agenda. Black and brown people as a whole don't believe in transgenderism and think it's bullshit. I lose braincells every time some TRA calls terfs "white feminists" because terfs around the world are primarily not white. Just look at Mexico and South American feminist movements.

There are plenty of black women who would qualify as TERFs - hell, look at Lipstick Alley (a shit-posting site directed at black women) every time the topic comes up

I second LSA, if you wanna know what black women think just go there. They will drag troons harder than Kiwis. There are men on LSA as well, but it is primarily women iirc.

 

[Dr. Troon Lagoon]

: Is there a scientific study that actually reports a correlation between troonerism, anime, autism and fetishes?

Not as of yet AFAIK, however I have this anecdote to share. I have been keeping my other colleagues dialed in on internet culture how it may be negatively influencing people with ASD. They found it interesting, but rather niche, early 2010’s.
Fast forward today in our neck of the woods several colleagues have been reporting back to that they have noticed some things with their younger psych clientele: being involved in “polycules”, MtF with FtM relationships, ASD girls enbies with a shared obsession with DnD, Anime, Dakura Pillows, etc. The morbidity is the same, they behaviour/obsession’s seem markedly different, lots of enbies, queers and trans. Also lots of online games, RPG’s and those Animal Crossing type games. Oh and even one case of a furry. A very obese furry apparently with lots of dogs.
Mind you not in Burgerland.

With the senior staff mostly being of previous generations they do not even know what even half of this shit is supposed to be, let alone where they are picking it up.
Make of that what you will, but my peers are no longer chuckling at me in bemusement.
Good luck teaching boomers Meds what Reddit and Tumblr is though!

 

[NynchLiggers]

Troonerism is an invention of mentally deranged WASP men, hence it's no surprise that the further you go away from this specific background, the more you will reject Western troonerism probably. Progressives often use race as a way to shut people up and hope that people buy the "only white people are against it!" trope. It's the same with prostitution. Whenever there is a feminist who speaks against prostitution, there is some whore (most of them aren't even real whores, just Onlyfans sex workers) who will say "This is white feminism!". How does this correlate with skin colour? It doesn't of course. But nowadays everything is bad as long as you put the word "white" in front of it. At the end it's not even about the ideas that people hold. Judith Butler called Hamas unironically a leftist movement. She didn't really care that most Palestnians were highly authoritarian, very religious, patriarchal, anti-homosexual and definitely not very fond of troons. The Gaza Strip is btw also one of the only places today where a woman must be married before she is even allowed to have legally sex. Yeah, they sound like good progressives to me. How would she react when a white man in the USA holds such views?



She's totally fine. She's the only former BreadTuber who actually redeemed herself and has grown as a person. It's quite hilarious that the only somewhat prominent black person of BreadTube hates them now. The only other person who distanced himself completely from BreadTube is Peter Coffin, but he's a total trainwreck. Even Angie didn't want him on her and her boyfriend's podcast anymore.




"White women" aren't the default, unless you consider only Anglo-Saxon women as default. Romanian women who often still are very poor and are often the target of illegal prostitution in the West have probably a much tougher life than rich East Asian women (who now even have a higher average income than white men in the USA). Some studies in Germany have even shown that having an East Asian surname will make you more likely to get a job than someone with a German surname.


"Akira". Out of curiosity: Is there a scientific study that actually reports a correlation between troonerism, anime, autism and fetishes?

Well, has anyone here heard of Trolling Induced Transexuality Syndrome, aka T.I.T.S?

 

[fistfulloffeathers]

I get the vibe that Olly just sucks with women. Like either in a “desperate for their attention, but resenting himself for that” way or a “desperately wants a fulfilling relationship but too narcissistic to manage long term meaningful relationships” way? Maybe both?.

Ollie gives me the impression he's one of those self described good guys, like the guy in 100 days of summer. Thinks he's really nice and caring, laments women are always bad to him. Scream all his exes are crazy and he's a holier than thou boyfriend. When the reality is he's manipulative, selfish and incredibly sexist.

Of course, since black women still possibly trumps troons in the oppression game (or are at the very least as oppressed as troons), they unironically like to pretend they don't exist.

I've noticed with troons and TRAs they always refer to black women as others. It's always trans women, black women, ect as if black women aren't real women like transwomen. They do the same to intersex people.
Basically women of colour, disabled, lesbian, intersex anything that deviates from the white straight middle class able bodied woman is somehow others they are not real women like trans women.

"White women" aren't the default, unless you consider only Anglo-Saxon women as default. Romanian women who often still are very poor an

I never said they were. I'm saying troons and TRAs are treating white women as default women and anyone else is not a true woman. I don't believe that. My attitude is if you have a vagina and your an adult your a woman.

 

[Troonwhisperer]

I never said they were. I'm saying troons and TRAs are treating white women as default women and anyone else is not a true woman. I don't believe that. My attitude is if you have a vagina and your an adult your a woman.

Ok yeah, I agree with that. It's especially interesting how AGPs ideal women often look like racist anorexic victorian woman.

 

[Had]

Troonerism is an invention of mentally deranged WASP men, hence it's no surprise that the further you go away from this specific background, the more you will reject Western troonerism probably. Progressives often use race as a way to shut people up and hope that people buy the "only white people are against it!" trope.

This is something I always thought was odd 0.8% of blacks are trans to whites 0.5%, though there are more white trans people black people are statistically much more likely to be trans. These stats aren't new also I think this shit goes as far back as the 70's. Also all the cases of Trans people being killed, as in literally every single one, was black on black crime on a Mtf (male to female).

So black people are both more likely to be trans and much less accepting of it.

 

[Troonwhisperer]

So black people are both more likely to be trans and much less accepting of it.

 

[Wisteria]

I always thought that the abundance of black troons was more to do with homophobia. I imagine that a greater proportion of black troons are HSTS when compared to white troons.

Or maybe I'm just stereotyping, idfk

 

[illhavetwo]

This is something I always thought was odd 0.8% of blacks are trans to whites 0.5%, though there are more white trans people black people are statistically much more likely to be trans. These stats aren't new also I think this shit goes as far back as the 70's. Also all the cases of Trans people being killed, as in literally every single one, was black on black crime on a Mtf (male to female).

So black people are both more likely to be trans and much less accepting of it.

Socially conservative and homophobic environments produce more HSTS while affluent liberal environments produce more AGPs.

 

[Dr George Whitebread]

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It's such a carbon copy of Contra that he startled me when I saw the thumbnail. I would have honestly had more respect for the dude if he just said he wanted to do Drag or play dress up instead of faking this transgender shit, it's obvious that's what he wants to do. No actual woman dresses up for their content like this unless it's directly about dressing up.

Doesn't help he looks more like The Penguin than The Riddler with that sharp shin and massive shnoz. That's straight up Danny DeVito with a pituitary problem.

 

[Tombigbee]

 

[Sustainable War]

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IMBD has Olly playing "Jess" in one episode.

Matthias Schoenaerts to Play Django in ‘Gomorrah’ Team’s Spaghetti Western Reboot for Sky/Canal+

Matthias Schoenaerts is set to don his stetson in the title role in Django, a “high-concept reimagining” of the classic Spaghetti Western to be produced as a 10-part TV series for European TV giants Sky and Canal+

Loosely based on Sergio Corbucci’s 1966 feature film (which earned a reputation as one of the most violent films ever made at the time), the show is being produced by ITV Studios’ Italian TV hitmasters Cattleya, behind the Gomorrah series and the recent mafia drama ZeroZeroZero, and award-winning French banner Atlantique Productions (Midnight Sun, The Eddy), part of Mediawan.

Set in the Wild West of the 1860s and 1870s, Django follows Sarah and John, who believe they have founded New Babylon, a city of outcasts, full of men and women of all backgrounds, races and creeds, that welcomes everyone with open arms.

However, haunted by the murder of his family eight years earlier, Django is still looking for his daughter, believing she may have survived the killing. He is shocked to find her in New Babylon, about to marry John. Now a grown woman, Sarah wants Django to leave, as she fears he will put New Babylon in jeopardy if he stays. But thinking the city is in danger, Django adamant that he will not lose his daughter twice.

The first episodes will be directed by Francesca Comencini (Gomorrah), who will also be the series’ artistic director. Django was created and written by Leonardo Fasoli (Gomorrah, ZeroZeroZero) and Maddalena Ravagli (Gomorrah), who, together, also co-wrote the series treatment with Francesco Cenni and Michele Pellegrini, with two episodes written by Max Hurwitz (ZeroZeroZero, Manhunt). Production is due to kick on in May 2021.

“I was extremely attracted to this project as it features extremely strong female characters and delivers a thought-provoking reappraisal of masculinity in the Western genre,” said Comencini. “It’s a universal story with a narrative that celebrates diversity and minorities. I am certain Django will intrigue and captivate global viewers.”

The series’ executive producers include Riccardo Tozzi for Cattleya and Olivier Bibas for Atlantique Productions. Django was commissioned by Nicola Maccanico, executive Vice President of programming Sky Italia, alongside Nils Hartmann and Sonia Rovai who also executive produce for Sky Studios, and was also commissioned for Canal+ by Arielle Saracco, head of Canal+ création originale, and Fabrice de la Patellière, head of Canal+ drama.

A Canal+ Création Originale and Sky Original, Django will be broadcast on the Canal+ channels in France, Benelux and Africa and on Sky’s services in Italy, the U.K., Ireland, Austria and Germany. StudioCanal has worldwide distribution rights.

Oh, yeah, he's a diversity hire, they're playing that shit up.

On a side note, American blacks are going to be pissed that someone named Django is white.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

On a side note, American blacks are going to be pissed that someone named Django is white.

American blacks should shut the fuck up and consider the fact Franco Nero played Django (1966) before Jamie Foxx was even born (1967).
Tarantino named Foxx' character Django as an homage.

 

[Woke Blue Muttlema]

Can we stop pretending this guy was hot before he trooned out?

He is a pudgy skinnyfat fag with a goatee. Are your standards that low?

 

[DarkSoulsPhil]

Can we stop pretending this guy was hot before he trooned out?

He is a pudgy skinnyfat fag with a goatee. Are your standards that low?

He looked clean and non-threatening. That's good enough for most viewers.

Now he looks psychotic

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

I always thought that the abundance of black troons was more to do with homophobia. I imagine that a greater proportion of black troons are HSTS when compared to white troons.

Or maybe I'm just stereotyping, idfk

I spend too much time in tranny threads and I don't think I've seen a black AGP yet. Being AGP really is rich white privilege.

IMBD has Olly playing "Jess" in one episode.

Matthias Schoenaerts to Play Django in ‘Gomorrah’ Team’s Spaghetti Western Reboot for Sky/Canal+

Oh, yeah, he's a diversity hire, they're playing that shit up.

On a side note, American blacks are going to be pissed that someone named Django is white.

Gross. I wonder which one of the cast old Olly is going to creep on. A lot of black cis male actors attached to the project, I don't imagine they will be happy with him and his drama.

 

[sexy beast]

"Akira". Out of curiosity: Is there a scientific study that actually reports a correlation between troonerism, anime, autism and fetishes?

Not a study, but an essay on the subject: https://blogs.feministwiki.org/socjuswiz/2019/10/20/masculinity-anime-and-gender-dysphoria/

 

[scathefire]

Can we stop pretending this guy was hot before he trooned out?

He is a pudgy skinnyfat fag with a goatee. Are your standards that low?

I can understand thinking he was attractive in the early, early days of the channel before before he was so doughy. But in the era where his entire audience fapped for him? No, nuh-uh, no way.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Can we stop pretending this guy was hot before he trooned out?

He is a pudgy skinnyfat fag with a goatee. Are your standards that low?

You can see how pudgy and flabby Oliver is through his shirt while doing standup, as shown below. He was never more than a non-threatening pasty flabby white guy. His best features were having a full head of hair and just enough facial hair to not be a neckbeard. The dark hair color helps it stand out and look decent. His masculine jawline helped him (when he wasn't in drag) and doubtlessly told him the gym can wait, because he "doesn't have a double chin yet".

His original surname was Lennard, Oliver Thorn was a stage name he adopted due to acting union rules about performers having the same name. I don't know whether or not he changed his surname legally to Thorn when changing his first name. Interestingly he did a standup routine as a student under his original name which features a joke about intruding on women's locker rooms.

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I also found a huffpost article supposedly by him in defence of 4chan being allowed to be as offensive as they please, no matter who was offended. There is a lot of journalism done around that time on other websites also by an Olly Lennard who is identifiably him and RationalWiki says that it is him.