Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

[Lipton Tea]

Ok, looks like Dream is going to be on Anthony Padilla's show, usually during interview with faceless youtubers, only the face is covered but what is this?

https://twitter.com/anthonypadilla/status/1398818351925796864?s=19

I'm sure it will be some animation thing like he did with Corpse.

 

[TSG]

I’m watching the VOD from today’s MCC, all
Dream does is bitch and moan. How is this entertaining? Like there are some creators that make malding entertaining like xqc but when dream does it sounds like an entitled kid. I’d rather him go full out rather than putting on the act that he is civil.

YO his stream quality was shitty af too. Apparently it was someone else who ddos-ed (i have no idea) or something. Alright which one of you did it? Anyways, lots of people on twitter are saying that dream and george were laughing about the vod review while sapnap was the one bitching about it. BUT if you were to listen closely to what dream was saying, he was easily manipulating sapnap to rage. Guy's getting really good at what he's doing man, fueling and using other people to say what he want to say. I keep repeating this, but Dream the sociopath is getting real good at gaslighting and manipulation.

Anyway, his stream had way lower viewers than tommy and tommy's actually a good person. I just might forgive dream for all his wrongdoings for skyrocketing tommy's career, but that would be forgiving dream's entire life besides his charity work i guess.

Side note: I'm really happy that they offended hbomb. I have no idea why he joined their server but hopefully this is gonna make the minecraft content creators split up from them. I can expect a civil war coming real soon or a cold war because unlike the dream team, none of the other ccs like drama or have single digit EQs. When sapnap and george grow out of their man child mentality and reach double digit IQ, expect the holy dream team to crumble.

 

[Novichops]

Side note: I'm really happy that they offended hbomb. I have no idea why he joined their server but hopefully this is gonna make the minecraft content creators split up from them. I can expect a civil war coming real soon or a cold war because unlike the dream team, none of the other ccs like drama or have single digit EQs. When sapnap and george grow out of their man child mentality and reach double digit IQ, expect the holy dream team to crumble.

Minecraft YouTuber Cold War would be amazing and hell at the same time

 

[Poop Fartious]

Anyway, his stream had way lower viewers than tommy and tommy's actually a good person.

The entire history of MCYT has been team Dream vs team Jschlatt and people are starting to realize which is the better option

 

[Bec]

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[fuckwad127]

Hey man, not trying to point fingers or anything but I've noticed that you seem to only post in this thread (which in itself is fine cause i'm the same) but also all of your posts seem to be defending Dream in some way or trying to dispell rumours/speculation + you said you were close to him/his community? What exactly is your relationship with the guy if you don't mind me asking? Apologies if you've mentioned it before, I might have missed it.
Your post a little while back about taking questions for Dream seemed a bit strange to me as well, as I think someone who's not really close to him would just get instablocked for trying to reach out on behalf of this thread or get dirt on him or whatever. Again, not trying to start anything, I'm just a bit confused.

I played MCPVP hunger games which was a server that dream made videos on way in the past. I was friends with all of his friends and talked to him a few times back then and could be considered an old friend of his. MCPVP was shut down because of it failing as a business and badboyhalo created a new server MunchyMC and dream was added as an admin on it. I hacked and did not really care about the server just used VPNs and random accounts and just went on for shits and giggles. I didnt really talk to dream much but chatted on discord about being unblacklisted once and a short chat about back in the day.

but also all of your posts seem to be defending Dream in some way or trying to dispell rumours/speculation

there has to be a voice of reason at some point even if people hear things that they dont want to because they hate the retards guts. I found this thread after the swat and lurked for a while and most of the shit said was extremely justified because he obviously cheated and lied about it. at a certain point it shifted from 'reasonable retard lord criticism' to conspiracy theories; exaggerations and in some cases pointless lies. I ignore most of them because most people posting here dont seem to care about the truth just whatever the most fucked up assumption is. tbf that is probably normal here but like you said i have only been on this thread and this was one of the few places on the internet where people were unfiltered with their criticism. I knew many of the posts personally to not be true and thought that i would post and clarify them and see what happened. the same thing that dox came on this thread and did and that rooted did as well after people were saying stupid shit. I lurk because i am 'in' the 'dream fandom' and curiosity keeps me intrigued even though most of the shit posted here is retarded from my perspective.

I think someone who's not really close to him would just get instablocked for trying to reach out on behalf of this thread or get dirt on him or whatever

I said in another post or message that i do not care at all. I have not messaged him since he exploded in popularity and from my experiences in the past as a shit bag being shitty that he had no reason to talk to with friends that are shit bags being shitty that he also had no reason to talk to he doesnt seem to care about talking to people who he dislikes even if they hate his guts. kavos, noah, even fucking talked to rooted. have a lot of doubt that he would give a shit about an old 'friend' messaging him with the intention of talking about a thread that we already know he lurks

@fuckwad127 are you a blond, obese Youtube Minecrafter from Florida, with a large woke fanbase?

yup you got me but you forgot the secretly gay part.

 

[Poop Fartious]

holy shit niggers it's actually him

 

[Trainwreck Watcher]

I don't see how Dream being entitled is some groundbreaking or questionable concept.

Him and Tommy got into a disagreement back in March over Dream taking credit and holding successes of his associates over their heads. He is known for treating people around him as if he was a talent agent (he said on several occasions that to get into DreamSMP and to be noticed you have to have talent), and somehow people becoming successful with said talent is all 100% credit to Dream and his initial exposure. Most of the tweets were deleted after one of the more mature members, Ph1lza , stepped in and stopped the bickering, here's a video of these tweets:

For context of the initial tweet, Dream was being put in Minecraft jail with Tommy, who had a habit of naming his videos "making minecraft X% funnier".
Later it was all laughed at as "just jokes", probably because stan-hounding someone is ineffective when the audiences heavily overlap, and arguing with a minor over their success story just makes you look as a conceited asshole. Especially since Tommy's comedic value was already getting traction in SMPEarth and some of Technoblade's videos prior to DreamSMP skyrocketing Tommy to success.

According to some of you, he treats his family in a similar manner:

Apparently Cole wasn't the most popular kid in HS and Clay had an ego large enough to, quote, "make me worry he'd get himself into real trouble one day". Apparently he already back then had some messed up authority complex and would boss Cole around, very gaslighty "I know best" shit. No wonder he looks up to his fagbro..

Which makes sense, Dream's ego was never really checked, he went to online school, claimed not to have had huge hardships in life and became successful very quickly. So why would he listen to anyone if being himself paid off, got him money and subscribers? He tends to give advice that you need to have certain cockiness to make it in Youtube.

Also the whole situation seems ironic, considering some of the allegations that Dream was that kid who did nothing in the group project of finding Pewdiepie's minecraft seed, except asking "Are we there yet?" and then getting all the glory and one of major initial boosts to his own career (warning: lots of minecraft nerd talk):

In conclusion, Dream did nothing worthy of federal offense (yet, and if we don't count him pushing his stans to), but has a fascinating rotten brat personality of snowballing hubris, carrying him too close to the sun, with little chance to steer away. And we're all here for the show.

Spoiler: Off-Topic clip for the "George is gay" connoisseurs

 

[anniesapples]

YO his stream quality was shitty af too. Apparently it was someone else who ddos-ed (i have no idea) or something. Alright which one of you did it? Anyways, lots of people on twitter are saying that dream and george were laughing about the vod review while sapnap was the one bitching about it. BUT if you were to listen closely to what dream was saying, he was easily manipulating sapnap to rage. Guy's getting really good at what he's doing man, fueling and using other people to say what he want to say. I keep repeating this, but Dream the sociopath is getting real good at gaslighting and manipulation.

Anyway, his stream had way lower viewers than tommy and tommy's actually a good person. I just might forgive dream for all his wrongdoings for skyrocketing tommy's career, but that would be forgiving dream's entire life besides his charity work i guess.

Side note: I'm really happy that they offended hbomb. I have no idea why he joined their server but hopefully this is gonna make the minecraft content creators split up from them. I can expect a civil war coming real soon or a cold war because unlike the dream team, none of the other ccs like drama or have single digit EQs. When sapnap and george grow out of their man child mentality and reach double digit IQ, expect the holy dream team to crumble.

I don’t think them offending Hbomb is gonna be the thing that tears them apart, it’s what Hbomb did in response. I feel like making fun of George is a cardinal sin for Dream (who is in charge of who is or isn’t in the server) and the stans. Don’t really like Hbomb but props to him to have the balls to insult George on live.
Edit: just watched the clip again, yeah I would’ve insulted george too. it’s like he got Alzheimer’s on the second lap.

 

[Velvet]

there has to be a voice of reason at some point even if people hear things that they dont want to because they hate the retards guts. I found this thread after the swat and lurked for a while and most of the shit said was extremely justified because he obviously cheated and lied about it. at a certain point it shifted from 'reasonable retard lord criticism' to conspiracy theories; exaggerations and in some cases pointless lies. I ignore most of them because most people posting here dont seem to care about the truth just whatever the most fucked up assumption is. tbf that is probably normal here but like you said i have only been on this thread and this was one of the few places on the internet where people were unfiltered with their criticism. I knew many of the posts personally to not be true and thought that i would post and clarify them and see what happened. the same thing that dox came on this thread and did and that rooted did as well after people were saying stupid shit. I lurk because i am 'in' the 'dream fandom' and curiosity keeps me intrigued even though most of the shit posted here is retarded from my perspective.

I have a similar perspective to what you have, to be honest. I take everything I read here with a grain of salt, I have a few curiosities to being here and none of it is for his personal info (... Besides potentially seeing what he looks like... *shrug*) nor for mud slinging, I am interested in how he responded to some individuals in this thread (Rooted), I think it gives interesting insight to the situation. However, that doesn't mean I don't take any criticism against him into consideration, as there are legitimate concerns in some areas, but it's harder to take it super serious considering Dream's age, and maybe I shouldn't compare him to how I was at his age- as I maybe wasn't personally the ideal, but I really couldn't imagine being in the position he is in when I was that age and doing very well at all... not that it was super long ago... but still... <.<

 

[the pope's penis]

The Dream Team's IQ all together is probably less than 10 anyway, so I'm not surprised at their response to this entire situation.

Clay's manipulative behaviour is gonna be the death of him no doubt. Eventually Sapnap and George are gonna see this nigger's insecurity, and him outing George like that is just wrong, especially if he is actually gay and closeted. Not siding with George here, just highlighting the lengths this retard will go to defend this Narcissist.

At least we know how to troll Dream now, seeing as how he gets all autistic over George.

This whole HBomb drama is the beginning of Dream's end, and i am here for it.

Now, nobody groan at me, but i looked at Dream's birth chart (astrology thing). And oh my god, this guy has issues. Feel free to reply or message me if you want to get more info about this, because the things im seeing right now is insane.

 

[Melight]

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Gonna take the unpopular stance here and say Dream bitching about Scott is actually justified. Guy is the event organizer and has had access to the new maps way before anyone else.

Hbomb drama however is dumb because almost every MCC someone was glitching to some extent

 

[kūhaku]

Now, nobody groan at me, but i looked at Dream's birth chart (astrology thing). And oh my god, this guy has issues. Feel free to reply or message me if you want to get more info about this, because the things im seeing right now is insane.

Are you saying dream is into astrology? I truly hope that this isn’t you making up some bullshit about dream being a bad person because of his birth month, because you would be a gay nigger if that were the case

 

[TSG]

Gonna take the unpopular stance here and say Dream bitching about Scott is actually justified. Guy is the event organizer and has had access to the new maps way before anyone else.

Hbomb drama however is dumb because almost every MCC someone was glitching to some extent

I would agree with you if dream wasnt a cheat himself. Its just hypocrisy at this point.

 

[dfjgdjyhk]

Dream admitted to cheating, kinda late if you ask me
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I bet he wrote this to take the heat off Scott and HBomb which is even funnier

I feel like this is something important to talk about, I’ve been very withheld for a while about it all and just decided it’d probably be best to just let it out so I can feel relaxed a little more I guess. This will be a very long read i’m sure, I’m writing this in my bath at 4am on my phone so forgive any mistakes or confusing bits.

Back in October/November of 2020, I for the first time since when 1.16 had just released I decided to try and speedrun 1.16 some to get a decent time. My goal was to get a time faster than 25 minutes, which was a good time and fairly obtainable at the time for me without spending months speedrunning. We had or were just about to switch manhunt to 1.16 and I wanted to get practice for that, and then speedrun for a better 1.15 time, because my record on 1.15 had been beaten.

After running for about a week, I got a 19 minute time (that arguably could have been lower, ironically enough due to bad luck). I started running 1.15 directly after, and a few day’s later there were some suspicions involving my streamed runs on 1.16. At this point, I was cooperative but upset and confused that I was being questioned. I provided all the information that I could, and assumed that everything was fine. As chatter grew, I was confused and the numbers didn’t look to be in my favor.

At this point I reached out to the only mojang developer that I had contact with, and talked for an hour or so about what was going on. I told him the details and was asking if there’s potential for a bug or glitch, and he told me that no there isn’t, but said some things about how banning for luck seems far fetched and that they should improve their system.

I felt a little reassured, but also angry that I was potentially being dragged for absolutely nothing. It wasn’t a huge thing yet, but it still lingered in my mind and I couldn’t really think about anything other than it.

As time went on and many weeks passed, I grew more and more frustrated, convinced that I was being targeted due to the fact that I was a Youtuber and a couple of the mods (self admitted) didn’t like me at all and didn’t have many kind words to say. I was an asshole and lashed out publicly, saying the investigation was a farce and expressing how pissed I was that I was being targeted and that it was taking so long, as the mods kept giving me deadlines and then missing them.

This was terribly stupid of me to do. I was scared and stressed and said and did shitty things. I regret it a lot and really wish that I had been able to keep my calm.

Later that month, the speedrun team released a video and a document detailing why my 1.16 runs couldn’t have been legitimate based on math and statistics. I admittedly don’t know shit about math and statistics, I didn’t go to college and I hated math my whole life. At this point I felt complete fear, as I felt like I had been publicly smeared in a way that I have no clue how to respond to. I didn’t understand the math and I didn’t understand why I had been left in the dark for so long only to have a video dropped randomly on me right before MCC. At this point and before, I had multiple speedrun moderators messaging me scary things about how it was a shit show and no one could agree on things just before the release, that they were clearly biased against me and so on. In retrospect, this may have been out of fear and wanting to be on the good side of a really big youtuber, or maybe they were being truthful or a little bit of both. All I know is that it scared me a lot. feeling like everything you built might come tumbling down and there’s nothing you can do about it is really stressful.

Again, I lashed out. I tweeted about the mods being clout chasers, and said a lot of really dicky things. I was pissed, I was scared, and I was being an idiot.

shortly after that, someone gave me the idea to hire a professional statistician because I know nothing about math. This calmed me down a lot and brought me back to a much healthier mindset. I googled and I ended up finding two professors and I emailed them both about the situation asking for assistance. Only one of them was available to help.

I was looking for help and I told them that I didn’t cheat, and that I just needed a second opinion on the math. Eventually the professor came back with a conclusion that the mods numbers were off by a significant significant margin, and that’s it’s possible although extremely unlikely. Again, not completely understanding math but knowing that my experts opinion seemed to be that the mods were off, I felt vindicated and relieved. I made a video about it, and expressed the professors views. people hounded me for it saying that the Astro physicist was fake, but the mods confirmed it was legit. I just wanted a (mostly) unbiased parties opinion.

The mods came back with a response, correcting the professor and saying that he was off and providing reasons for why. Again, I don’t understand complicated math so I sent it directly to the professor asking for his thoughts. Later on, he came back admitting there were mistakes in his original assessment, although he still believed theirs was off. In his rebuttal though, he came to the conclusion that it’s improbable that I didn’t cheat. I felt like the right thing to do was post his findings, even though he hadn’t asked me to yet, I did. I tweeted them out and replied saying that I agree that it seems more likely than not that I cheated. I didn’t say anything more than that.

Funnily enough, he actually emailed me a day or two later saying I need to post his findings, or he will (semi-threatening, but not in a mean way), and I responded that I already had before he even asked.

At this point I was lost, and I was fairly confused about the whole thing. Wondering what the other options were and exploring the possibilities. as much as I was confident that I didn’t cheat, I had never explored the option that I possibly did. due to the way I reacted to the mods and perceived everything going on I was convinced that they were out to get me. I tunnel visioned and was paranoid and didn’t think straight. I had plenty of valid reasons to believe that they weren’t impartial, and had the mod team and I been completely friendly from the beginning I believe it never would have gotten to the point that it did.

After considering this, I ended up finding out that I HAD actually been using a disallowed modification during ~6 of my live streams on Twitch. At the time we were just starting to record videos on 1.16 and we had just hired a developer to help with coding mods for videos because me and George had no experience with mods only plugins. One of the mods that they were working on was an overall recording mod, that I have used in every video (with updates and improvements) since around the speedrun controversy. You may notice it in my videos due to f3 being small or particles being reduced, or recently on my streams things like the background being custom or a “Dreams servers” option and plenty of other features and improvements.

In our challenge videos, before 1.16 we always increased the enderman spawn rates and pearl drop rates out of convenience and we’ve mentioned that openly before. It makes the videos better because we don’t spend hours looking for pearls or spend so much time farming blaze rods (a totally RNG thing, mostly pearls). When 1.16 came out, it was more complicated to increase piglin trades then it is to do enderman pearl drops. A server side plugin was made for our videos that slightly increases the rates. Around this time is when the first versions of the recording mod was being made, although it was more of a chat mod at this point.

I had considered at the time that this potentially could have been a problem, but brushed it off because 1. Server side and client side are completely different and as far as I was aware nothing had been done client side. 2. as far as I knew it was just basically a chat mod so far and 3. I was 99% sure that I didn’t even have the recording mod on. Which was backed up by the fabric api logs saying that only the fabric api was loaded (although I found out later it only lists things that explicitly ask to be listed which I had no idea) this was mentioned in my response video.

I ended up thinking that it’s basically the only explanation after the professor came back with what he did. I talked with the developer and ended up finding out that when working on the mod stuff he had added the same improvements from our challenge servers to the client side mod so that they would work in single player for videos like the shock collar video or other “single player” mod videos. This was only in an early rendition of the mod and was removed because the developer realized that those type of videos can just be done on a PC hosted server. This actually included a couple other things that weren’t mentioned at all during the controversy much as far as I’m aware. Ender eyes had a low chance of breaking when thrown, and enderman dropped pearls at a much higher percentage (I don’t think I killed many enderman so this wasnt noticeable, similar to the eyes).

When I realized this, I felt an extreme sense of guilt and I took down my response video not believing in what I said in the video at all anymore. This was a couple months ago at this point I believe. When the drama first started I cared more about defending myself and being right, then about figuring out what was actually going on and I shot myself in the foot by doing it.

I felt really terrible for the mods because I dragged them through the mud even though they were mostly right. I still feel as though the mod team was extremely unprofessional when dealing with it, but they’re a group of volunteers just trying to do their job and in their eyes I was some cheating sob youtuber who didn’t care at all. Maybe in their position I would have treated me the same. I was an asshole back to them which didn’t help at all either.

I reflected a lot about the entire thing and had a lot of regret about just the first few days after the runs. What if they had asked for my mods sooner, what if I had realized sooner, what if I hadn’t had a history with a couple of the mods maybe I wouldn’t have jumped straight to them being out to get me. Further past that what if I could have controlled my emotions and not blown the whole thing out of proportion. I can’t live by what if’s though so I was just left with what I had. I debated live streaming or making a video about it, but the drama had basically already passed and I was worried about rekindling the fire when I had already gone through basically a couple months straight of absolutely being shit on by anyone that didn’t think of me favorably, and the mods had gone through weeks of torture Im sure too.

I figured it’s out of the way, and it would be a story I would tell in a few years when no one really cared. I told a couple people and just felt like the community had been through enough drama and that it was pointless. I didn’t want to be the center of controversy for the hundredth time.

it was shitty and an unfortunate situation where I felt like I couldn’t defend myself anymore in good faith without feeling bad but I also didn’t have any intention of cheating.

Since the speedrun controversy there’s been some animosity between me and the mods, and I feel like the relationship only got worse. They declined my donations from the controversy video, got into drama a couple times with me/my community on Twitter since(don’t want to go into specifics), and a month or so ago added me to a chat questioning me about my previous 1.15 runs from around a year ago. They saw a suspicious black box that they thought meant a splice, but it turned out to be a youtube setting on their end that they realized, and they had some other random questions as well. This was resolved fairly maturely I believe and I haven’t talked to them since.

Yesterday around MCC the mods made the decision to remove my old runs due to suspicions and the fact that my 1.16 run was invalid, which is something that is done with most people who submit any invalid runs at all. I’m sure there’s reasonable suspicions about most runs, especially offline ones from back when they were allowed, so couple that with a 1.16 run being actually invalid and it’s a completely reasonable assumption. You can’t give someone the benefit of doubt on lag or frame skips or potential cuts or anything unless they’ve earned it, and in this case I haven’t at all. So I don’t want to see any hate towards the mods or any drama involving the fact that they were marked invalid due to my 1.16 run. I think it’s dumb that it’s been done 11 months later, but it’s understandable and if anything, I deserve it, and it puts an end to any potential drama. (at this point what could they do, double ban me? /j)

I’m not really sure what Im expecting out of all of this, but I just felt like I had a huge weight on my shoulder and I want to get it off. I think the whole situation was extremely shitty overall for everyone involved and I wish that I could go back and do things differently because it was some of the worst weeks of my life and still impacts me every day. I’m sorry to anyone that I let down or disappointed. I always strive to be the best person that I can be and that whole debacle wasn’t the best that I can be or anywhere near it. I hope this brings some closure to anyone who needed it, and I really want to move forward with positive vibes like I’ve been trying my best to promote as much as I can.

When I got into speed running I was doing it every day for months, and you can see the skill improvement even just over a few months of tryharding. It was so much fun and I got a few snarky records that I shouldn’t have got in the first place (my first world record I chopped down trees for 10 minutes, I still find that hilarious how unoptimized the category was). I came in at the right time and met some absolutely incredible people who are some of the best Minecraft players on the planet. I am no where near the best speedrunner and I never have been, I was in the right place at the right time and was able to have a lot of fun because of that.

I hope that this gives insight into my mindset a little bit, but if not I’m not sure what will. I’m sure I’ll talk about it more just for clarity sake, but I want to avoid causing more drama. please don’t send any hate to the mod team or anyone involved in the situation, I don’t want any more drama at all, you’re no supporter of mine if you do.

dream

 

[PinkStar]

Please tell me you're kidding. This is the dumbest and craziest shit I've seen in this thread.

Now, nobody groan at me, but i looked at Dream's birth chart (astrology thing). And oh my god, this guy has issues. Feel free to reply or message me if you want to get more info about this, because the things im seeing right now is insane.

 

[the pope's penis]

Are you saying dream is into astrology? I truly hope that this isn’t you making up some bullshit about dream being a bad person because of his birth month, because you would be a gay nigger if that were the case

Please tell me you're kidding. This is the dumbest and craziest shit I've seen in this thread.

Call me a gay nigga all you want, but his birth chart literally screams insecurity and daddy issues. Go ahead, laugh me out the thread, but if you really want to know who this guy really is then feel free to ask lol

 

[AlphaKilo]

Dream admitted to cheating, kinda late if you ask me
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You're gonna carry that, Clayton. I won't blame you for being stupid at math, but I believe you can handle the situation better.

 

[Melight]

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I bet he wrote this to take the heat off Scott and HBomb which is even funnier

This fuckers ego is completely destroying him lmao. Deliberate or not why tf would you not come out with that info early. His fans would have ate it up and others wouldn´t have hated him as much if he simply said "yeah my bad left a mod on". Nah instead he goes out of his way to get a fucking statistics professor because it can´t possibly be that he fucked up on his end. Lunacy

 

[Clean your doorknobs]

p.33 “In our challenge videos, before 1.16 we always increased the enderman spawn rates and pearl drop rates out of convenience and we’ve mentioned that openly before.”

Have they ever mentioned that before? I know there was speculation that a mod meant for the hunter videos had been left on by accident, but afaik Dream never said anything about a mod like that existing before.