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I like when Kiara does dumb stuff because it always gets brushed away with "Oh she had a bad time in the idol industry". No shit she did, its soulless work designed to exploit everyone involved and using that as a crutch for the problems with her personality is pretty weak at this point. If she was trying to do this on her own independently she probably wouldn't even be halfway where she is.
 
If she was trying to do this on her own independently she probably wouldn't even be halfway where she is.
If we are all being sincere here, all of hololiveEN 1st gen were basically riding on hype of the Holos in pandemic and especially Coco and Niggers. There's nothing wrong with HoloEN, but also I don't think anyone of them could have made it large independently.
 
At the end of the day this is just stupid, imagine getting around 15K in a few hours and still being salty about inconsequential things like this, now she can wipe away those tears with $100 bills lmao

Edit: I kinda want to see someone translating this clip to 日本語 and see the reaction from the JP side just for shits and giggles.
 
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I like when Kiara does dumb stuff because it always gets brushed away with "Oh she had a bad time in the idol industry". No shit she did,
i mean Nene also used to be in idol group and yet she still energetic and playful toward the audience whetever it all just a play or what or even she still have some bad memories regarding her past life at least she still can play the character.
She is WAY TOO INVESTED in this persona that the numberfag gets to her. Personality goes a really long way, and hers is shit.
always remember folks if you really trying so hard on something, usually its never gonna happen.
 
If we are all being sincere here, all of hololiveEN 1st gen were basically riding on hype of the Holos in pandemic and especially Coco and Niggers. There's nothing wrong with HoloEN, but also I don't think anyone of them could have made it large independently.
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Gura had a million subs shitposting. Calli had a fan base because of her music. A fucking moth mommy GF has amassed a following. Weebs loving anime girls who speak English? Who would have thought this wouldn't succeed.
 
If anything, a single clip got a page of this thread filled in just a bit more than an hour. We all sure love to dunk on the chicken, huh.
Kinda warranted in this instance really. It takes a fair bit of cowdom to insert a "Woe is Me" commentary in a milestone celebration stream meant to celebrate accomplishing something a fair bit of your seniors with years banked in the company aren't even half-way there to achieving yet.

using that as a crutch for the problems with her personality is pretty weak at this point.
Eh, that's fair.
 
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Gura had a million subs shitposting. Calli had a fan base because of her music. A fucking moth mommy GF has amassed a following. Weebs loving anime girls who speak English? Who would have thought this wouldn't succeed.
Speaking of Big man Tyrone, I have some spicey opinions. The "Nigga" compilation was key for holos success in the youtube algorithm. Change my mind.
 
If we are all being sincere here, all of hololiveEN 1st gen were basically riding on hype of the Holos in pandemic and especially Coco and Niggers. There's nothing wrong with HoloEN, but also I don't think anyone of them could have made it large independently.
It was kinda happenstance that V-Tubers were taking off in the second wave right before the pandemic because of twitter and youtube but I think every HoloEN talent put the work in to be successful rather than getting lucky.

As an original Kizuna AI subscriber, she both innovated and almost killed the industry. The clippers are what rocketed Hololive, the V-Tubers Out of Context is what pulled me back in
 
If we are all being sincere here, all of hololiveEN 1st gen were basically riding on hype of the Holos in pandemic and especially Coco and Niggers. There's nothing wrong with HoloEN, but also I don't think anyone of them could have made it large independently.
Gura could.

Ina probably already rolls in Gacha Art money and doesn't really care about streaming.
 
Kinda warranted in this instance really. It takes a fair bit of cowdom to insert a "Woe is Me" commentary in a milestone celebration stream meant to celebrate accomplishing something a fair bit of your seniors with years banked in the company aren't even half-way there to achieving yet.


Eh, that's fair.
Totally agree. I can't imagine this as a smart career move either. As much fair or unfair shit the chicken gets this is pretty retarded,. Triply so when you consider Japanese culture, and she has Holotalk. Whatever guest she has on next with less subs may see it as pity and decline to save face.

Or maybe Kiara is just accepted as a gaijin who doesn't understand and will be given a pass.

It's all autistic at the end of the day honestly though.
 
i mean Nene also used to be in idol group and yet she still energetic and playful toward the audience whetever it all just a play or what or even she still have some bad memories regarding her past life at least she still can play the character.
It doesn't come off as baggage with Nene which I think is the difference. She also doesn't seem to pull this shit.
 
As an original Kizuna AI subscriber, she both innovated and almost killed the industry. The clippers are what rocketed Hololive, the V-Tubers Out of Context is what pulled me back in

Curious on what you mean by that. How was Kizuna damaging to the virtual idol concept?
 
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i mean Nene also used to be in idol group and yet she still energetic and playful toward the audience whetever it all just a play or what or even she still have some bad memories regarding her past life at least she still can play the character.

always remember folks if you really trying so hard on something, usually its never gonna happen.
And nene actually failed multiple times in hololive audition. And i dont think she act like the chicken.


Imagine reaching 1M sub but still talks about being last to reach it. This is so lame chickin so lame. Pity subs? Everyone in hololive has that. You achieved that faster than almost everybody else in hololive stop with this BS. I don't care about your failures that its not like you are the only one who failed. Your JP senpai, holostar and every indie out there would love to have that million subs and tons of $uperchat.

Gura could.

Ina probably already rolls in Gacha Art money and doesn't really care about streaming.

Gura? Her YT channel is doing well for sure but she has twitch right where she usually stream? Whats her viewer count there?
 
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The Kizuna Ai clone arc

People realized Ai's voice was different, Company never said they had 4 different VAs, they got called out and finally put out that there are 4 different Ais but people already lost interest by then
I'd argue that legitimized Vtubers instead of ruining them. People were pissed that the personality behind the avatar was gone.
 
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