Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
So where do you guys see this going? In my opinion, dreams controversy is gonna be one of the major factor that kills Minecraft (again).
Maybe not kill it. But we'll probably see different Minecraft communities fighting in each in autistic online skirmishes. Similar sort of thing happened in another online community I was in. One of the popular YouTubers got exposed, and this led to a straight up war between his fans and about 6 other groups. At it's peak, this YouTuber was being sent taxis, pizza, carpet samples and I think one troll even signed them up to a gay porn mag subscription.

For Minecraft to actually die, you'd need something like the 'Player Safety Features' announcement, multiplied by 100.
 
Grown man cheats at video game 8 year olds most affected. Seriously though it’s mine craft why does any of them actually care? Outside of ads and merch did he steal money directly from peoples pockets? Has he diddled kids or gave a pet vodka to drink?

“His stans are harassing me” Grow up. If there was ever an example of a nothing burger this is it.
I wouldn't call it a nothingburger. Seeing this giant faggot constantly trip over himself live on air and getting his ass blasted after cheating at an autistic block simulator is pretty funny.
 
Grown man chimps out over cheating allegations in block game in front of his child audience. Autists are outraged while spergs in Kiwi Farms laugh at the stupidity unfolding.
Legitimately, I have never encountered such a ludicrous amount of fanaticism over fucking Minecraft speedruns. That guy, "Dream" is insane, why would anyone hire some fake astrophysicist to prove that his Minecraft speedruns are legitimate?

Dream is the biggest coper and sorest loser I've ever had the displeasure of seeing become influential. There are a lot of insufferable celebrities people out there, but generally as a rule the populace knows that such people aren't well adjusted. Dream however, is somehow allowed to get away with the most brazen megalomaniacal nonsense.

I've heard about the fact that Dream admitted to cheating yet conveniently he "figured out" it was due to an illegal mod he didn't know was running. What gets me about this, is that people I've spoken to have generally taken Dream on his word, without the least bit of critical thought. I asked what their evidence was that Dreams version of events was true, the answer was "he said it, he explained it was because of a mod". How convenient, after 5 months Dream couldn't just admit that he cheated at the beginning when it was glaringly obvious to anyone with a working brain. Dream's reputation wouldn't have been tarred to the degree it has been by just saying what he's said recently which would've been, perhaps, more reasonable at the time than 5 months later. But instead he went through all the theatrics of verbally abusing people on Reddit, Twitter and livestreams for calling out what was clearly evident in his speed-run. He allowed the people who proved definitively that he cheated be mocked and bullied, he hired a fake PhD. to write a phoney paper defending his speed-run, and then has the gall to come out and expect us to believe he did cheat but he just "didn't know"? Fuck that for a joke. There's no reason his word should be trusted on his.

The man should be suspected of being a liar, not someone who only now is telling the truth. No person who makes an honest mistake could possibly go to all the effort to defend himself as Dream did in order to defend an action he apparently had no clue of. If that was the case, then Dream would've honestly taken on board what his critics had to say and came clean after investigating for himself what the situation was. It still would've been hard to believe he had a mod installed and didn't know it, but it wouldn't have been as hard to believe as it is currently, because of all the effort he went to defend himself. I personally find it hard to believe he took so long to realise it was due to a mod, since I'm fairly certain such a possibility was discussed months ago, he seems to have had ample opportunity to admit to being wrong, but didn't do so.

What this really shows is that even if Dream is telling the truth, he's so utterly obstinate to anyone who might have grounds to question his authenticity, that he will go to great lengths to avoid admitting when he's wrong, or when he might be to blame. The excuse I've seen make the rounds, is that Dream took so long to come out and admit to the fact he used a mod because he was "too proud" to admit it, this doesn't hold up. I've heard this excuse before and it falls apart when you realise that Dreams entire persona as a genuine and understanding guy, comes from the times on twitter where he'd been called out for not worshipping coloured people and fags enough, when he's been politically "insensitive". In such instances Dream and his ilk prostrate themselves to the mob to repent for their actions, in the eyes of his fans this shows Dream is willing to admit when he's wrong. Not so. It simply shows Dream is willing to "admit" to being wrong about issues he doesn't care about, because when Dream is forced into a corner to admit to being wrong about something he did care about (speed running) he denied it to the utmost, and attempted to voraciously stave off having to admit any wrong doing which isn't characteristic of his persona as a reasonable, honest, and genuine guy. It actually proves the opposite, or at least goes some way to show that Dream isn't the person he pretends to be.

Another thing which makes the aforementioned excuse even more untenable, is that not wanting to admit when you're wrong after going to such lengths to defend yourself, isn't nearly as bad as what Dream actually did to defend himself in the first place. Hiring a pajeet (presumably) with a fake PhD is undoubtedly the most ridiculous and embarrassing thing you could've done, it makes you look way worse than just not wanting to admit you're wrong. At least the latter is something everyone at one point or another is guilty of, but I'd wager most people aren't in the habit of creating fake websites and manufacturing evidence in our own favour to muddy the waters and circumvent admitting to our faults.

To anyone who might say that Dream vindicated himself because he did - albeit belatedly - admit to having cheated, then I only have one thing to say to you. If Dream thought he could've gotten away with it, then I don't think he would've admitted to anything. The fact is that the evidence was so monstrously out of his favour, that the only way he could've turned the table into a lie he could defend was by admitting to having cheated, but in such a way as to remove any blame from himself that could lead to the conclusion that he cheated intentionally. This removes the black cloud of suspicion above his head, and provides the public with a way to reconcile the ridiculous odds of his speed-run, and Dreams claim that he was innocent of the accusations levelled against him. Now he only needs to defend an unfalsifiable assertion he invented for himself. It then works in his favour, because many people are just willing to buy into it. Dream ultimately wins because he can pretend to have maintained his persona by "admitting" to having cheated, yet not sew the consequences of having done so on purpose. Everything Dream does is to advance his own interests and make himself look as good as possible.

TL;DR: Dreams word that he "is telling the truth this time guys, honest" isn't proof that he's telling the truth, or that his version of events are true. There's more than enough reason to be sceptical, if not downright dismissive of his self-serving apologia. Dream is the Albert Speer of Minecraft youtubers, "it happened, I just didn't know about it". Although what Dream admitted to actually happened, and what Speer claimed to have happened most certainly didn't. That seems to be the only difference between them.
"Albert Speer of Minecraft youtubers" lmao, man you made my day.
 
To be honest, I do not understand why he published his "confession" in principle. If he's trying so diligently to protect his ego and reputation, then he should remain only a suspect of cheating, and not confirm it. I can assume that his closest friends found out about the situation with the mod almost immediately after Dream realized what exactly he screwed up (this would explain the abundance of their jokes about 1.7 trillion)
It is also possible that information about mods began to seep out, and that is why Dream decided to confess to cheating himself, before someone else does it.


Anyway, he's a complete fucker if he thought his heart-warming speech would pity anyone other than little girls.
The funny thing is, he continues to dig his own grave, trying to make excuses and joking with the reviewers of this drama.
 
To be honest, I do not understand why he published his "confession" in principle. If he's trying so diligently to protect his ego and reputation, then he should remain only a suspect of cheating, and not confirm it. I can assume that his closest friends found out about the situation with the mod almost immediately after Dream realized what exactly he screwed up (this would explain the abundance of their jokes about 1.7 trillion)
It was a smokescreen posted on the same day a bunch of his old runs were delisted for cheating. Talking about his non-apology distracts from the real evidence of his prior runs and WRs being disqualified.
 
"Albert Speer of Minecraft youtubers" lmao, man you made my day.

My pleasure. If you'd like another analogy, Dreams speed-run and phony paper justifying his ridiculous claims are basically the Katyn massacre of Minecraft youtube drama. But I don't think that comparison is as apt or funny as the previous one. Simply because I don't think Dream blamed anyone else for his failings necessarily. But still, that he saw the need to forge scientific results that agreed with him, and mobilise the IMT of Youtube asslickers to defend him, then perhaps it's still relevant.
 
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To be honest, I do not understand why he published his "confession" in principle. If he's trying so diligently to protect his ego and reputation, then he should remain only a suspect of cheating, and not confirm it. I can assume that his closest friends found out about the situation with the mod almost immediately after Dream realized what exactly he screwed up (this would explain the abundance of their jokes about 1.7 trillion)
It is also possible that information about mods began to seep out, and that is why Dream decided to confess to cheating himself, before someone else does it.


Anyway, he's a complete fucker if he thought his heart-warming speech would pity anyone other than little girls.
The funny thing is, he continues to dig his own grave, trying to make excuses and joking with the reviewers of this drama.

I have a feeling that it's a reactionary thing. I don't know if it's guilt, he was high, he was sleep deprived, the pressure from the "haters" got to him, or what, but he legitimately thought that publishing that non-confession was a smart move. Maybe he was sick of having (alleged) speedrunning cheater following his reputation all throughout? A liar's greatest weapon is ambiguity and benefit of the doubt, and if he had just shut up forever, even mildly reasonable people or folks not aware of all the drama would have been willing to look past what he did and give him a chance.

Maybe he was THAT egotistical and thought that such a confession would only help him; that his fanatics and casual audience would jump on his dick no matter what. But speedrunner boy miscalculated his jump and there are still a lot of level headed mature adults who don't buy into his charismatic bullshit

In a way, it's that ego of being untouchable and basically confirming people's suspicions that mirror's Cryaotic's downfall where he basically admitted to grooming minors. Perhaps this is Minecryaotic's own personal parallel event to that?

EDIT: Either way, he feels himself some sort of master manipulator, but his smokescreens only work on those who don't know better
 
Now, nobody groan at me, but i looked at Dream's birth chart (astrology thing). And oh my god, this guy has issues. Feel free to reply or message me if you want to get more info about this, because the things im seeing right now is insane.
We have a containment board for women in this website, it's called Lolcow Salon and I think you'd feel right at home over there, talking about other fat women, makeup and child rearing.
 
The main mistake of such manipulators is that they are sure that they are smarter than everyone else, although this is not so, obviously.
Looks like Clayton believed in all those big headlines "1000iq Dream"
Either way, he feels himself some sort of master manipulator, but his smokescreens only work on those who don't know better
 
EDIT: Either way, he feels himself some sort of master manipulator, but his smokescreens only work on those who don't know better
There's another (((group))) of people out there who consider themselves to be master manipulators, and enforce their lies onto others with the same tactics as Dream, attempting to degrade, muddy the waters, insult and barrage with their masses of self righteous goons anyone who would criticize them. Perhaps Dream would be more amicable if only were were to "hold it with the anti-Dreametic remarks"?
 
>2700+ word explanation for why he cheated at the Autism Olympics
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