Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

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I don't think fuckwad is dream, but I wonder who he is...

I know a lot of the same people. I was a player on a server he developed for. I honestly just came here to catch up on chris-chan related stuff then saw this thread about dream.

This new stuff about him not realising he had a mod loaded and being too certain in himself to actually check or consider it is really funny. He made a similar mistake with an item on the server. It took him days to fix it 'cos he was certain he'd tested it and there was no problem with it, even when he kept being told there was.

Would you be willing to provide any information (preferably links or screenshots) about Dream or any of these people around him? Do you think any of these people would be open to sharing their own links/screenshots?

 

[financhu]

Would you be willing to provide any information (preferably links or screenshots) about Dream or any of these people around him? Do you think any of these people would be open to sharing their own links/screenshots?

No links and screenshots, for the simple fact I don't have any. The only text conversations I have with him are about issues on the server. I was in some vcs with him, but there's nothing really interesting from there unless you're intensely obsessed with Dream's character, which kinda makes you a dream stan. They weren't recorded, it'd just be from memory.

I liked dream as a developer and a server manager, but once his youtube took off he became irrelevant for most of us on the server. I don't think anyone else would and it'd be kind of cringey to ask, because people either don't care about him but have nothing against him, or are still friends with him.

There isn't really any exciting dirt on him. The most of I can think of is one cropped and extremely deepfried screenshot of him saying "nigger" from absolutely years ago, which I don't have because the few times it's been posted in discord, it gets deleted, and that Alyssa was allegedly kicked from the DreamSMP after impulsively threatening to ddos a player on Munchy over a 1/51000 item, but by that time she wasn't playing on it anyway, and no one took her threat seriously or believed she'd actually do it.

I just think it's funny that now in his youtube career, he's basically caused a fuckton of drama over pretty much the same mistake he made on the server. Being so certain he was right he didn't bother to check. Classic Dream. No hate to him from me, but it's funny seeing him caught with his pants down out of hubris.

 

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No links and screenshots, for the simple fact I don't have any. The only text conversations I have with him are about issues on the server. I was in some vcs with him, but there's nothing really interesting from there unless you're intensely obsessed with Dream's character, which kinda makes you a dream stan. They weren't recorded, it'd just be from memory.

I liked dream as a developer and a server manager, but once his youtube took off he became irrelevant for most of us on the server. I don't think anyone else would and it'd be kind of cringey to ask, because people either don't care about him but have nothing against him, or are still friends with him.

There isn't really any exciting dirt on him. The most of I can think of is one cropped and extremely deepfried screenshot of him saying "nigger" from absolutely years ago, which I don't have because the few times it's been posted in discord, it gets deleted, and that Alyssa was allegedly kicked from the DreamSMP after impulsively threatening to ddos a player on Munchy over a 1/51000 item, but by that time she wasn't playing on it anyway, and no one took her threat seriously or believed she'd actually do it.

I just think it's funny that now in his youtube career, he's basically caused a fuckton of drama over pretty much the same mistake he made on the server. Being so certain he was right he didn't bother to check. Classic Dream. No hate to him from me, but it's funny seeing him caught with his pants down out of hubris.

That deepfried image would be hilarious to have, but that's fine. Thanks for the reply

 

[Aidan]

I refuse to believe Dream cheating was a mistake.
He had a guy develop a mod that fudges the things he was accused of modifying and it took him months to figure out that that was the culprit? Even if he was genuinely that retarded in those moments, the developer and others who were aware of the mod and/or plugin would surely bring it to his attention unless he is extremely unapproachable by his own "friends".

I don't really care if Dream said "nigger" or anything either. He's one of those guys who burns bridges as he builds them and will fuck himself longterm no matter what.

 

[justalurkerr]

Of all the people in dreams spider Web I feel bad for Ranboo. He's clearly suffering with huge amounts of imposter syndrome and anxiety, he's gained a fanbase of crazed stans that cancel him over anything vaguely 'problematic' and the expectations people hold him to are nuts.
It took me two seconds to find his face/name/everything because unlike Clayton he's oblivious to this part of the Internet. His fans are going to be disappointed he doesn't look like a 'gender' anime boy though... The best I can say for him is that at least he doesn't have a history of doxxing or saying slurs, although he might get cancelled for being a mod on the lunch club reddit. It's okay though he can just negate that by coming out.

You found his name? Share with the class

 

[PinkStar]

I refuse to believe Dream cheating was a mistake.
He had a guy develop a mod that fudges the things he was accused of modifying and it took him months to figure out that that was the culprit?

I can quite believe that this was a mistake, given the fact that, as it turned out, Dream does not understand mods or plugins at all and does not even see the difference between them. Add to this his constant self-confidence in everything, which is mentioned in the post above, and in the pastbin of Dream himself.

However, he most likely realized that he screwed up pretty quickly, but not enough to keep from releasing a dumb math video.

 

[financhu]

I refuse to believe Dream cheating was a mistake.
He had a guy develop a mod that fudges the things he was accused of modifying and it took him months to figure out that that was the culprit? Even if he was genuinely that retarded in those moments, the developer and others who were aware of the mod and/or plugin would surely bring it to his attention unless he is extremely unapproachable by his own "friends".

I don't really care if Dream said "nigger" or anything either. He's one of those guys who burns bridges as he builds them and will fuck himself longterm no matter what.

The developer was almost certainly one of the developers from Munchy.

These guys suck at QA. They absolutely suck at it. The history of bugs and oversights on the server it's absolutely laughable. I can totally believe that his developers wouldn't bring it up. One of them never joins voice calls, another is busy with school a lot so getting to talk to him can be pretty rare. I'd call the entire team semi-professional.

Likewise, I can totally believe that Dream would regularly switch the mods in his folder, because he was producing a fair amount of content at the time requiring different mods. All these mods would have been made by either him, george, or one of the developers from Munchy.

I can totally see him checking which mods he has loaded before he starts a recording most of the time, and then because he usually checks it, he decides "No, it can't be one of those mods, because I check!". Gobs off at the mods and Twitter secure in the belief that he definitely didn't cheat... and then later thinks to check and finds that he actually did... then deciding it's too late to own up and doubling down until now. This is when the "I deleted my mod folder in RAGE" incident happens

From what I know of Dream's character, cheating in the speedrun would defeat the point in doing it. All the competitiveness he shows is completely earnest. It's born out of the same kind of pride that makes him not even consider if he's made a mistake.

 

[Gru]

Dream's making pride merch, according to these tweets posted on r/DreamWasTaken2 (somebody should try to get into his hugbox account.)

 

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25:08 lol no fucking way this dude did any meaningful de-compiling. You're just throwing around big words Clay. So you decompiled every file you could find? I'm assuming that's hyperbole, but what did you decompile? With what decompiler? Looking for what? Are you confident you understood what you were looking at given that you aren't even a dev, let alone a reverse engineer? Sure, Java is easier to meaningfully decompile than native binaries, but that's still seems very "misinformative", as you would say.

My interpretation of his terminology is: "plugin" = resourcepack or datapack, "mod" = server-side or client-side mod. It's worth pointing out that you can do a lot with the first category. In particular, datapacks can use the Minecraft command language which is quite powerful.
https://youtu.be/GLJMnJxec7M?t=2665
49:35 second decompilation claim, now he's a Java developer. What's "the Java decompiler" btw? jad? CFR? There's no first party decompiler, only a disassembler... To be fair, maybe he just thinks his decompiler is the only one, idk.

Conveniently enough, he has all the excuses to not send the investigators a copy of his super seekrit mod. Not enough to nail him to the cross because it could genuinely happen in good faith though.

The rest of the story (3 months of guilt, tunnel vision) seems somewhat believable, I don't know.

In the words of saint Terry

I built a fucking compiler.

 

[dustiee]

Dream's making pride merch, according to these tweets posted on r/DreamWasTaken2 (somebody should try to get into his hugbox account.)

I agree, but I'm not sure how often followers get accepted. There's a lot of update accounts, however. Here's one that showed up when I looked up "Dream Updates" in the Twitter Account search. Pretty thorough, and details almost every public comment he makes as well as anything he posts on the @dreamhangout priv, these stans are literally up this guy's ass.

 

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God I love Vinny.

How long until Vinny mentions about how Dream got to talk to him after this and say that he's actually a pretty cool guy

 

[Gru]

The developer was almost certainly one of the developers from Munchy.

These guys suck at QA. They absolutely suck at it. The history of bugs and oversights on the server it's absolutely laughable. I can totally believe that his developers wouldn't bring it up. One of them never joins voice calls, another is busy with school a lot so getting to talk to him can be pretty rare. I'd call the entire team semi-professional.

What's with MunchyMC anyways? Is callahan that mod who never jumps into voice chats? Only reason I know this is cause they're trying to make him popular since he's on the Dream SMP for some reason, even though he doesn't talk. For that matter, what's up with BadBoyHalo? Why does he have a conniption fit everytime somebody fucking swears?

 

[PinkStar]

For that matter, what's up with BadBoyHalo? Why does he have a conniption fit everytime somebody fucking swears?

All I heard was that he was somehow involved with the church.

 

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So is Dream banned from submitting speedruns if not suspended at least? You have runners get banned for faking 2 runs and lying about it, but Dream seems to have basically gotten off with no issues.

 

[Poop Fartious]

what's up with BadBoyHalo? Why does he have a conniption fit everytime somebody fucking swears?

IIRC he was abused as a kid for swearing and his mother washed out his mouth with soap constantly. Eventually his trauma turned into a gimmick so he probably just stuck with it for the branding

 

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What's with MunchyMC anyways? Is callahan that mod who never jumps into voice chats? Only reason I know this is cause they're trying to make him popular since he's on the Dream SMP for some reason, even though he doesn't talk. For that matter, what's up with BadBoyHalo? Why does he have a conniption fit everytime somebody fucking swears?

Yeah it's Callahan.

Badboyhalo is/was a pretty devout christian. Before Skeppy started trolling him, leading to their partnership later, he basically considered his main demographic to be children, younger teens and that. I'm also pretty sure BBH is autistic or something. He is... pretty damn weird. He acts it it up on his channel because he's self-aware enough to know how he comes across and humourise it... But he's pretty naive. All his friends seem to take the piss out of him, but not in a truly mean-spirited way. In another life he'd be a lolcow like Chris. A lot of Skeppy's early vids in around 2018 were him genuinely trolling the shit out of BBH, although these quickly became staged once BBH caught on. I feel like one of the main way he's made friends is people feeling bad for him after mocking him, it does sort of feel like punching down a retard.

Honestly I think a lot of the weirdness and cringey stuff in the dream fandom indirectly comes from BBH. Calling people muffins, the fanart culture, that all came from him. Originally when people would post things like gay fanart of him and skeppy, he'd just refuse to acknowledge it's content, and just compliment the art, in this sort of pretense of appreciative obliviousness. It's probably something that kind of stressed him, but his friends would tease him about it. In a way I think that Dream doesn't seem bothered by it at all is just a joke with his friends to wind up BBH, which also conveniently encourages a significant part of the online demographic to participate in his fandom or whatever.

 

[naella]

I also found Ranboo's name/face/other info a few weeks back, it's not hidden very well since he accidentally leaked his own info in the past on an old account. However, I don't think it's worth publicly doxxing the kid as he's not really done anything lol-worthy yet apart from being a bit of a pussy and having stans he's terrified of. Dude's just an awkward highschooler who made cringe tiktoks and wormed his way into playing minecraft with his idols and is trying to cope with an army of bloodthirsty teens. He seems to be a decent person otherwise, I don't see him pulling anything crazy manipulative narc-tier like Clayton any time soon. That's just me though.

 

[Aidan]

The developer was almost certainly one of the developers from Munchy.

These guys suck at QA. They absolutely suck at it. The history of bugs and oversights on the server it's absolutely laughable. I can totally believe that his developers wouldn't bring it up. One of them never joins voice calls, another is busy with school a lot so getting to talk to him can be pretty rare. I'd call the entire team semi-professional.

Likewise, I can totally believe that Dream would regularly switch the mods in his folder, because he was producing a fair amount of content at the time requiring different mods. All these mods would have been made by either him, george, or one of the developers from Munchy.

I can totally see him checking which mods he has loaded before he starts a recording most of the time, and then because he usually checks it, he decides "No, it can't be one of those mods, because I check!". Gobs off at the mods and Twitter secure in the belief that he definitely didn't cheat... and then later thinks to check and finds that he actually did... then deciding it's too late to own up and doubling down until now. This is when the "I deleted my mod folder in RAGE" incident happens

From what I know of Dream's character, cheating in the speedrun would defeat the point in doing it. All the competitiveness he shows is completely earnest. It's born out of the same kind of pride that makes him not even consider if he's made a mistake.

While I'm sure any developers of anything he works with are "semi-professional" at best, the circumstances surrounding the incident along with the context of his own explanation and words heavily imply he cheated.

• Speedruns multiple times
• Almost world record speedrun
• Speedrun mods find it incredible and look into it
• Mods discover incredible odds heavily stacked in Dream's favor
• Bring this to Clay's attention
• He immediately goes on the defensive
• Mods effectively prove he cheated in multiple runs in the same way
  • in autistic detail to cover their own ass
• Clay goes all out on damage control to include personal attacks and siccing fans on people
• One excuse published by this point is Clay just happened to delete his mods folder (not move, but delete) and so couldn't provide it to the speedrun mods.
  • Later when resharing this same screenshot, Clay would censor this part
• ...
• ...
• Clay realizes he cheated.
• months pass...
• Clay publicly announces in a manipulative pastebin that he cheated but it was an accident (conveniently timed with 1.15 stuff)
  • Devs aside, no one in his circle brought this up to him?
  • Clay personally claims he didn't even know the offending changes were part of the mod yet they were explicitly done for the manhunt series to keep it entertaining
• Full damage control again
• Clay does a disaster stream and everything he says to defend himself is retarded and makes no sense
  • plus dunkey seething

For this to be an accident the stars would have to align. He didn't cheat once, he cheated 6(?) times that are known and one of them was almost a world record. On top of this, when challenged, he conveniently deleted the files to the point they were irrecoverable? The mod he had made "in-house" was never mentioned or considered for months.
The list goes on and this is just a really shallow look into it. Clay's done a lot of stuff to try to smooth things over that don't make sense for an innocent person to do.


You seem to simultaneously know him very well and know nothing worth posting that isn't in defense of him.

So is Dream banned from submitting speedruns if not suspended at least? You have runners get banned for faking 2 runs and lying about it, but Dream seems to have basically gotten off with no issues.

Not a speedrun autist so may be wrong but as far as I know, he is banned outright from submitting all runs as of recently. I agree it's weird he wasn't banned with the first offense, other cheaters are given next to no leniency when their cheating is demonstrable.

 

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So is Dream banned from submitting speedruns if not suspended at least? You have runners get banned for faking 2 runs and lying about it, but Dream seems to have basically gotten off with no issues.

Some of his runs got pulled for stuff the mods found suspicious, but earlier Dream released a second pastebin apology where he stated he has removed all of his runs from the leaderboards and requested that the mods ban him from submitting more. So he's probably done with that whole speedrunning thing.

 

[financhu]

While I'm sure any developers of anything he works with are "semi-professional" at best, the circumstances surrounding the incident along with the context of his own explanation and words heavily imply he cheated.

• Speedruns multiple times
• Almost world record speedrun
• Speedrun mods find it incredible and look into it
• Mods discover incredible odds heavily stacked in Dream's favor
• Bring this to Clay's attention
• He immediately goes on the defensive
• Mods effectively prove he cheated in multiple runs in the same way
  • in autistic detail to cover their own ass
• Clay goes all out on damage control to include personal attacks and siccing fans on people
• One excuse published by this point is Clay just happened to delete his mods folder (not move, but delete) and so couldn't provide it to the speedrun mods.
  • Later when resharing this same screenshot, Clay would censor this part
• ...
• ...
• Clay realizes he cheated.
• months pass...
• Clay publicly announces in a manipulative pastebin that he cheated but it was an accident (conveniently timed with 1.15 stuff)
  • Devs aside, no one in his circle brought this up to him?
  • Clay personally claims he didn't even know the offending changes were part of the mod yet they were explicitly done for the manhunt series to keep it entertaining
• Full damage control again
• Clay does a disaster stream and everything he says to defend himself is retarded and makes no sense
  • plus dunkey seething

For this to be an accident the stars would have to align. He didn't cheat once, he cheated 6(?) times that are known and one of them was almost a world record. On top of this, when challenged, he conveniently deleted the files to the point they were irrecoverable? The mod he had made "in-house" was never mentioned or considered for months.
The list goes on and this is just a really shallow look into it. Clay's done a lot of stuff to try to smooth things over that don't make sense for an innocent person to do.


You seem to simultaneously know him very well and know nothing worth posting that isn't in defense of him.


Not a speedrun autist so may be wrong but as far as I know, he is banned outright from submitting all runs as of recently. I agree it's weird he wasn't banned with the first offense, other cheaters are given next to no leniency when their cheating is demonstrable.

I think he realised he cheated before he sic'd his fans but after the mods proved he cheated in multiple runs, earlier on in your timeline. I wouldn't call it defending him saying he acted out instead of admitting, or that he never even considered he'd made a mistake earlier. But I wouldn't call it attacking him either. People think he's maliciously cheated, but to me it just seems he was a prideful moron.

I knew him as a developer and admin because I played his server, but we weren't friends. We had and have mutual friends though.