WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

[Mr. Brown]

What is this talk of getting him banned?... Scopeley would never ban a whale.

 

[Collections Agent]

What is this talk of getting him banned?... Scopeley would never ban a whale.

All gachas hit a point where they are no longer profitable because :

1) you need to add new systems to keep milking whales
2) the more systems added the worse the game gets for f2p players
3) the less f2p players the less whales can lord their rosters over them
4)to fix this they often make the game far more generous which gets back f2p players but immensely pisses off whales, the ones that aren't addicted (DSP is) will likely leave
5) repeat this chart til game isn't making enough money and you just make a new game

People are saying a new game could kill off champions and DSPs $100k or so he's put into it will be dust in the wind

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Question is: Will the Phil of today just shrug off the game being shut down? He seems to have done it with Supercards, because he took that exact mistake and made an even bigger one, but that game didn't get fucked with. He didn't get kicked out of all the prestigious guilds and wind up losing his enjoyment of flexing on people because now everybody knows he's The Guy. It just ended, and he moved on to the game that HAS been ruined for him.

Now, when they pull the plug, it's after a couple of years of being sweet deranged Nigel's personal punching bag, as well as the butt of a lot of jokes that normally wouldn't have happened if his account hadn't been found. That may not be so easy for Phil to just move on from. Especially since here, he also doesn't have the luxury of ignorance being bliss. He knows we're close to the amount that he has spent, a figure I reckon he didn't WANT to know.

 

[Mr. Brown]

Question is: Will the Phil of today...

Phil hasn't changed a bit in years and even Phil isn't dumb enough to have a stream meltdown over a game he's told people he doesn't play.

The game being shutdown will be a gift to him, the dudes addicted. At that instant he should swap his iphone for a dumbphone to avoid being addicted to a new game.

 

[Schmeckel]

1) you need to add new systems to keep milking whales

Kind of a 1a.) They introduce new systems to milk whales that are fairly accessible to F2P players, but quickly abandon them to pursue other wallet-warrior avenues.

 

[Kosher Dill]

The game being shutdown will be a gift to him, the dudes addicted.

It's pretty likely that he's addicted to more than one game. Champions is just the one we found.

 

[actually]

It's pretty likely that he's addicted to more than one game. Champions is just the one we found.

He definitely used to be--I found an account in Marvel: Future Fight that was also whaled out. He's also known to have played both Dokkan Battle and Final Fantasy Brave Exvius. Given that he was posting screenshots of "pulls" from Dokkan Battle, it's a safe bet he was spending there.

 

[Prince Lotor]

Question is: Will the Phil of today just shrug off the game being shut down? He seems to have done it with Supercards, because he took that exact mistake and made an even bigger one, but that game didn't get fucked with. He didn't get kicked out of all the prestigious guilds and wind up losing his enjoyment of flexing on people because now everybody knows he's The Guy. It just ended, and he moved on to the game that HAS been ruined for him.

Now, when they pull the plug, it's after a couple of years of being sweet deranged Nigel's personal punching bag, as well as the butt of a lot of jokes that normally wouldn't have happened if his account hadn't been found. That may not be so easy for Phil to just move on from. Especially since here, he also doesn't have the luxury of ignorance being bliss. He knows we're close to the amount that he has spent, a figure I reckon he didn't WANT to know.

WWE Supercard never got shut down, as far as I'm aware it's still an ongoing game that you could pickup right now and play.

Phil quit Supercard because they instituted a 'Seasonal' system and started 'Season 2' in which your cards from Season 1 were no longer effective. Phil threw a titty tantrum and quit the game. Essentially from the gacha lifecycle in @Collections Agent post above Phil quit at step 4 when they reset the bar of entry for new players.

They later instituted more game modes and shit where all your cards from any season were effective, making a sort of Seasonal and non-Season play.
Phil like the gacha junkie he is tells us in his own words that he redownloaded Supercard over a year later "just to try it out and see what changed" and says "it just didn't feel the same" to him.

If you go look at his forum profile I just posted it was last active like August 20, 2017. Phil went back to the game in late 2017 looking for his gacha fix.
He's a junkie. He was a junkie before WWE Champions. If WWE Champions has the plug pulled Phil is still a junkie.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

That still doesn't tell us what his emotional state would be like, though, since he hasn't gone through such a situation. Although it's interesting that, at one point and time, it was actually possible for him to feel a bit of... dare I say "regret"? I mean what else do you call it mean he gets pissed that the money he spent no longer amounts to anything? It's not for normal reasons, but still, it tells us that in Champions, he's able to justify his investment with the fact that he has better odds as a result of spending his way to VIP level 13 or whatever.

Obviously that's entirely contextual, as in, only within the game does his $40k plus waste give him anything, but it also gives us an idea of what it would take to break him now, and it probably isn't the game going away. It's the game changing, most specifically in a way that nullifies the $40k plus that he wasted on building up his account. And yes, he'll learn nothing from it, but that isn't the point. The point is to see him get pissy on stream, whether he blurts it all out or not. Nobody cares if Phil turns his life around in any way, not even me. The most I have interest in is seeing if new scenarios he hasn't experienced before have an effect on him that we've yet to witness, like all of his whalechairs leaving him in some way. I don't expect he would learn from that, but it's fascinating nonetheless to observe such folks when confronted with uncharted waters, because of all the things that should prompt even a stubborn dumbass to re-think their life, it would be losing all of their enablers.

 

[UncleTusky]

He definitely used to be--I found an account in Marvel: Future Fight that was also whaled out. He's also known to have played both Dokkan Battle and Final Fantasy Brave Exvius. Given that he was posting screenshots of "pulls" from Dokkan Battle, it's a safe bet he was spending there.

Let's not forget WWE immortals. Phil posted in early 2015 that he was jumping to that from Supercard:

I'm done with this game. WWE Immortals is released and has a lot of bugs, but overall it's way more interesting than this game at this point. I may continue to periodically play but I'm done posting here. I only played this RtG because it came out of nowhere, I fully expected this to be another PCC which I was going to skip and focus on Immortals.

(source) (archive).

Then probably came back or at least checked it out again because his last login on that site was about two and a half years later in August 2017. My guess is that he was either juggling multiple gacha games for a while or came back to Supercard after getting fed up with Dokkan/Marvel/FF/Immortals. Unfortunately Immortals was shut down in late 2018 and the forums appear to be gone too, so his antics in that game will have to be left to speculation.

Also this is too good not to share, his profile description was accidentally too ahnest:

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EDIT: Just for my own curiosity could somebody explain to me how WWE Supercard works? Is it like Yu-Gi-Oh/Magic the Gathering where there's some skill involved, or is it the WWE equivalent to collecting baseball cards? I'm asking because from what we know of Phil, giving up on Supercard because it wasn't outright pay-to-win would totally be in character.

 

[UncleFuckAss]

Let's not forget WWE immortals. Phil posted in early 2015 that he was jumping to that from Supercard:



(source) (archive).

Then probably came back or at least checked it out again because his last login on that site was about two and a half years later in August 2017. My guess is that he was either juggling multiple gacha games for a while or came back to Supercard after getting fed up with Dokkan/Marvel/FF/Immortals. Unfortunately Immortals was shut down in late 2018 and the forums appear to be gone too, so his antics in that game will have to be left to speculation.

Also this is too good not to share, his profile description was accidentally too ahnest:

Spoiler: big-ish image

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EDIT: Just for my own curiosity could somebody explain to me how WWE Supercard works? Is it like Yu-Gi-Oh/Magic the Gathering where there's some skill involved, or is it the WWE equivalent to collecting baseball cards? I'm asking because from what we know of Phil, giving up on Supercard because it wasn't outright pay-to-win would totally be in character.

It's not nearly as engrossing and fun as something like Magic or Hearthstone. It is a very simple minded game with barely any strategy involved and you can just pay to win. The standard game mode was 5 card decks and the only objective was playing your card and it having higher stats than your opponent. There was later another game mode added where it was basically the exact same thing but with a 30 card deck.

There were two special game modes that I can't remember the names of. One was just standard 1v1 where you got points for winning matches. You could play this infinitely and pay for boosters so you would get more points after winning. At the end of the weekend you would get a special prize depending on how you ranked. Phil routinely finished in the top 5 and it was estimated that would cost thousands of dollars.

the other special game mode used the 30 card deck and you had to proceed up a ladder. You would have 5 lives and if you lost them you'd have to wait like an hour or whatever for them to recharge like in candy crush. For a person like Phil who was in the top 1% of players he easily could have done this event for free and still easily got the prize cards. There was not a limited amount of cards, anyone who finished the ladder over the course of like 3 days would get them. DSP is an egomaniac though and every single week he would pay money to get extra hearts and beat the whole thing within like an hour of it going live, just so he could be the first person to post the stats of the new card on the forums.

 

[Balr0g]

It's not nearly as engrossing and fun as something like Magic or Hearthstone. It is a very simple minded game with barely any strategy involved and you can just pay to win. The standard game mode was 5 card decks and the only objective was playing your card and it having higher stats than your opponent. There was later another game mode added where it was basically the exact same thing but with a 30 card deck.

Not to mention he could even stream Hearthstone or Magic being shit at it and still get some money for it. Heck there are other games like Minion Masters or Runeverse where you get a lot of stuff for free and they are fun to play (imho of course) Though I would stay away from Hearthstone it has become P2W imho.

 

[UncleFuckAss]

Not to mention he could even stream Hearthstone or Magic being shit at it and still get some money for it. Heck there are other games like Minion Masters or Runeverse where you get a lot of stuff for free and they are fun to play (imho of course) Though I would stay away from Hearthstone it has become P2W imho.

If his behavior is any indicator he doesn't want a challenge. He just wants prestige with the absolute minimal effort possible. Even his Street Fighter days were basically pay to win. Back then if you were willing to max out your credit cards to go to tournaments across the country that automatically put you in the top 1% of players.

You can tell by reading his forum posts for super card that it gives him some weird ego boost even though he's paying to win.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Phil routinely finished in the top 5 and it was estimated that would cost thousands of dollars.

Was? As in, at the time he was doing this, people were talking about the likely investment? Because if so, then Phil probably didn't actually scoff at the $40k figure after his Champions account was found. Just pissy at the fact that others know, and got it closer than he would ever want anyone to, including himself. He has had plenty of warning about his gacha spending being substantial.

DSP is an egomaniac though and every single week he would pay money to get extra hearts and beat the whole thing within like an hour of it going live, just so he could be the first person to post the stats of the new card on the forums.

This tells us a lot about why Champions appeals to him, for it's the same fucking deal, and I have to imagine his enjoyment has to be at an all-time low these days thanks to being forced to keep his big mouth shut about what meager flexing he can even do in such a low level guild as Sons of Smackdown.

Question is: Has this compelled him to find another game to feel superior in? He might not have, he might actually be tired of the climb at this point, however low effort it is.

Not to mention he could even stream Hearthstone or Magic being shit at it and still get some money for it.

Gacha is clearly something that's supposed to stay a secret, because he can't be who he is in such games while being KNOWN as who he is. It's similar to his clout-chasing on Twitter, in that he can't do it without ignoring the fact that he's The Guy, and everybody has a mile-long list of ways to shut him down by mentioning things that are established fact.

Phil can't stream games like that without drawing attention to what is meant to be an escape from being DSP.

 

[Salubrious]

If his behavior is any indicator he doesn't want a challenge. He just wants prestige with the absolute minimal effort possible. Even his Street Fighter days were basically pay to win. Back then if you were willing to max out your credit cards to go to tournaments across the country that automatically put you in the top 1% of players.

You can tell by reading his forum posts for super card that it gives him some weird ego boost even though he's paying to win.

DSP's winning percentage in this game is something like 99.4%. When you get an OP as him, most matches become One Turn Kills. DSP would need the worst of the worst starting boards to lose a game.

 

[UncleFuckAss]

Was? As in, at the time he was doing this, people were talking about the likely investment? Because if so, then Phil probably didn't actually scoff at the $40k figure after his Champions account was found. Just pissy at the fact that others know, and got it closer than he would ever want anyone to, including himself. He has had plenty of warning about his gacha spending being substantial.

This tells us a lot about why Champions appeals to him, for it's the same fucking deal, and I have to imagine his enjoyment has to be at an all-time low these days thanks to being forced to keep his big mouth shut about what meager flexing he can even do in such a low level guild as Sons of Smackdown.

Question is: Has this compelled him to find another game to feel superior in? He might not have, he might actually be tired of the climb at this point, however low effort it is.

Gacha is clearly something that's supposed to stay a secret, because he can't be who he is in such games while being KNOWN as who he is. It's similar to his clout-chasing on Twitter, in that he can't do it without ignoring the fact that he's The Guy, and everybody has a mile-long list of ways to shut him down by mentioning things that are established fact.

Phil can't stream games like that without drawing attention to what is meant to be an escape from being DSP.

There's definitely more we don't know about. I know at some point he mentioned a Dragon Ball Z mobile game he was playing.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

DSP's winning percentage in this game is something like 99.4%. When you get an OP as him, most matches become One Turn Kills. DSP would need the worst of the worst starting boards to lose a game.

This brings whole new perspective to the time where Phil claimed he could win the matches 100% of the time while playing Super Turbo, were it not for the supposed lag fucking things up. I think his gacha time may be causing those thoughts to leak into his streams.

Even if that's not the case, it goes to show what his attitude is in regards to winning and what it takes to do so. Nobody, and I mean no one in existence, can play a fighting game and win any given match with such a ridiculous likelihood as 100%. It may be very high for certain folks, but it's always going to be less than 100%. Especially when you don't know your opponents, which is most of the time for Phil. He puts so much stock in the match-ups, in what the odds are for the characters, that he sounds like someone who plays gacha, not Street Fighter. It simply doesn't work that way, even someone like me, who hasn't touched a fighting game since 2005, can easily see that by watching a bunch of people play. Shit, watch LTG play Urien against any number of online Zangiefs. That match-up is supposed to be 8-2, as in Urien has the odds of winning 8 out of 10 times, very much at the advantage (this may not be accurate as of this latest patch, but you get the idea).

Despite this, LTG may as well stand for "Lose To Gief", because he has done exactly that, many, many times. He even got his ass whooped by a dude who landed on Zangief with a random select. Point is, your character doesn't give you great odds if you fucking suck. After so many years of curbstomping opponents in gacha, Phil's brain is probably permanently incapable of wrapping itself around this concept. He really does think that his knowledge and experience with fighting games means the same as his spending does in Champions.

 

[snood]

i dont understand why he doesnt just stream this, surely it would attract a parade of like minded retards who would throw him money to play in addition to the money he needs to live? he just stalwartly refuses to be wrong on any given topic, even if thats just admitting that he plays a game that he likes.

 

[Philly May Lyrus]

He definitely used to be--I found an account in Marvel: Future Fight that was also whaled out. He's also known to have played both Dokkan Battle and Final Fantasy Brave Exvius. Given that he was posting screenshots of "pulls" from Dokkan Battle, it's a safe bet he was spending there.

The amount of games is crazy dating back to his YT "success". I pulled out all my old metal fillings and wearing a tinfoil hat so I'm under the impression he always whales on one and "casually" plays another one in case one of the games is discontinued. I cannot believe how much money was wasted with the BMW, Mancave items(most purchased blackout drunk), Mobile games, Food, and Gin in his earlier years. Saying that, I bet he was worse in CT. It's funny he knows, nearly everyone except derich knows he put so much money into the game. I say the derich thing after see his twitter posts.

 

[AnOminous]

He has had plenty of warning about his gacha spending being substantial.

He still probably lies about it, like the guy going to the casino ATM for the fifth time that night, who could stop any time he feels like it.