Creative works you enjoyed until politics happened - "How politics made me hate Welcome to Nightvale and other things"

[Jason Wynn]

I've checked out podcasts where they dive into older movies like "Dude, where's my car?" and the jerky boys movie. Their wokeness just makes them dismiss the comedy outright.
The podcast about "Dude, where's my car" was especially woke where they just dismissed the movie outright because of the tranny stripper bit.
It was a fun stoner movie and the audience I saw it with had no issues with that scene.

Dude podcasts have gotten horrible with the woke shit, especially when it comes to horror movies. I listen to a lot f them while working and I swear I hear more about toxic masculinity, muh soggy knees, white privilege, internalized homophobia and orange man bad from the mouth breathing hosts than I do about Freddy, Michael or Jason

 

[RumblyTumbly]

I've checked out podcasts where they dive into older movies like "Dude, where's my car?" and the jerky boys movie. Their wokeness just makes them dismiss the comedy outright.
The podcast about "Dude, where's my car" was especially woke where they just dismissed the movie outright because of the tranny stripper bit.
It was a fun stoner movie and the audience I saw it with had no issues with that scene.

If we've gotten to a point where "Dude, Where's My Car?", a dumb stoner movie from 20 years ago, is considered offensive, then can we just declare the genre of comedy dead?

 

[Ginger Piglet]

If we've gotten to a point where "Dude, Where's My Car?", a dumb stoner movie from 20 years ago, is considered offensive, then can we just declare the genre of comedy dead?

Shrill exists. This is allegedly comedy. I thought it was a satire on Woko Haram but I'm afraid it really isn't.

 

[Fictional Character]

Dude podcasts have gotten horrible with the woke shit, especially when it comes to horror movies. I listen to a lot f them while working and I swear I hear more about toxic masculinity, muh soggy knees, white privilege, internalized homophobia and orange man bad from the mouth breathing hosts than I do about Freddy, Michael or Jason

I'm glad the podcasts I listen to limit themselves to political takes like 'We don't really like the death penalty, but there's some people we don't need around and this guy is one of them.' and 'NCAA is a bunch of scumbags.'

 

[SITHRAK!]

The way I understand it is that while they may live a two-tiered system, it doesn't mean they treat the second class ("civilians") as subhuman.

Agreed. Johnny Rico’s parents weren’t Citizens but were still filthy rich.
What wasn’t well covered was whether there were paths to Citizenship other than military service- the movie strongly implied there weren’t (see the classroom scene where Rasczak first appears). However, I have no moral issues with a society that makes military service optional, but requires it in order to be granted the right to govern. God knows some of the best politicians we’ve seen over that last fifty years have been ex-military (Dubya excepted, that guy was a fucking retard) and the absolute worst have universally been ‘anti-establishment’ beltway diversity hires like Pelosi, Kamala and Maxine Waters.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

What wasn’t well covered was whether there were paths to Citizenship other than military service- the movie strongly implied there weren’t (see the classroom scene where Rasczak first appears).

I think the books do make it clear that there are other ways of gaining citizenship other than military service, like other forms of public service, but it doesn't delve into them in detail.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Agreed. Johnny Rico’s parents weren’t Citizens but were still filthy rich.
What wasn’t well covered was whether there were paths to Citizenship other than military service- the movie strongly implied there weren’t (see the classroom scene where Rasczak first appears). However, I have no moral issues with a society that makes military service optional, but requires it in order to be granted the right to govern. God knows some of the best politicians we’ve seen over that last fifty years have been ex-military (Dubya excepted, that guy was a fucking retard) and the absolute worst have universally been ‘anti-establishment’ beltway diversity hires like Pelosi, Kamala and Maxine Waters.

The book made a point that the Federation would find a role for anyone who sought to Do Their Part, with the main goal being that the prospective citizen is doing something difficult. Examples given included the military tour that everyone knows about, manual labor, and serving as a test subject, though those not able to take part in physical service would likely get something they could do, with a physician jokingly saying that a blind cripple may be given something like touch-counting caterpillar fuzz, because the Federation would find a way to make use of everyone seeking to take part in the Service.

 

[SITHRAK!]

the books

The book

Yeah, but I was specifically referring to the movie...

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Yeah, but I was specifically referring to the movie...

The movie is basically a pale shadow of the book though, and barely touches upon the Federation as a country, beyond making it one giant fascism analogy.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Yeah, but I was specifically referring to the movie...

Fuck the movie, that shit was an in-name-only adaptation of Starship Troopers made by someone who actively hated the themes of the book.

 

[SITHRAK!]

I’m not disputing either of those points of view, just saying that the guy I was replying to was specifically referencing the movie- hence I too was specifically referencing the movie by replying to his post.

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

I promise you Jordie, the last thing a racist wants to do is steal your body, I’d be more wary of the white libs you surround yourself with.

Following this we’ve gotten a slew of ‘white people be scary and shit’ films...It’s all so tiring

Any kind of such "perspective flip" could not ever work because any good "white man vs savages/foreigners" story had elements of admiration for antagonist, a sort of respect (for their toughness or such), while all this shit is "white people be stealin'", not to mention that both parties are usually modern enough to make cultural contrasts neglible.

Now, make a movie where a guy born in one of those isolated black tribes goes against some kind of trust fund morons who came to his land to "save nature", that actually could have been the tits.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

Dubya excepted, that guy was a fucking retard

Was he ever in the military though? I thought he escaped the draft by getting his old man to pull some strings?

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Was he ever in the military though? I thought he escaped the draft by getting his old man to pull some strings?

He was in the Texas Air Guard, if I remember correctly. You're thinking of Dan Rather's hilariously fake "document" asserting otherwise.

 

[Titos]

I really liked Bo Burnham, but his latest special was a lot of him moping and talking about how he's really into Communist literature now.

That sucks, I like Bo's shit normally. Haven't watched his new special but the song he just released on jewtube gave me more of the impression he was reading a bit too much Ted Kaczynski and had gone insane.
Edit for people who don't know what I'm talking about:

 

[Standardized Profile]

The movie is basically a pale shadow of the book though, and barely touches upon the Federation as a country, beyond making it one giant fascism analogy.

It wasn't even a good fascism analogy. The Federation, even in the movie, was basically a liberal democracy with an additional qualification for voters tacked on. But that qualification was made to look fascistic by dressing the characters up in Hugo Boss costumes.

Fascism denies that numbers, by the mere fact of being numbers, can direct human society; it denies that these numbers can govern by means of periodical consultations; it affirms also the fertilising, beneficient and unassailable inequality of men, who cannot be levelled through an extrinsic and mechanical process such as universal suffrage.

Starship Troopers proposes that men can be levelled through service; the veteran general and the veteran private each get one vote. It also suggests numbers of votes can direct society. It's not fascistic at all.

 

[Ita Mori]

Shrill exists. This is allegedly comedy. I thought it was a satire on Woko Haram but I'm afraid it really isn't.

So if Whitey is evil for trying to wear dreadlocks, why the fuck is Negress wearing European clothing in a European household? Where's her African rags and hay hut?
No fucking consistency.

 

[The Lawgiver]

So if Whitey is evil for trying to wear dreadlocks, why the fuck is Negress wearing European clothing in a European household? Where's her African rags and hay hut?
No fucking consistency.

It gets more fucking insane when there's historical evidence Dreadlocks were worn by certain european cultures in ancient times. Depending on where the white woman's heritage lies she could be technically "getting in touch with her roots" lmao.

 

[Mola Ram]

It gets more fucking insane when there's historical evidence Dreadlocks were worm by certain european cultures in ancient times. Depending on where the white woman's heritage lies she could be technically "getting in touch with her roots" lmao.

If cultural appropriation is such a reprehensible evil, I'm going to have to insist that nonwhites refrain from the use of antibiotics.

 

[Judge Dredd]

podcasts have gotten horrible with the woke shit

Sorry if I have mentioned this one before, but Writing Excuses used to be a great writing podcast, with the episode on the Hollywood formula being a great listen for anyone who has any interest in big budget films and why some work and some don't.

Then they went down the road of diversity and the podcast went to shit. I've not listened in years.