Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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In normal times, i would say that this is to remove reports from 'chancers' saying they feel ill after a vaccine, just so that they can have free, paid time off.

But this is clown world and this reads like a way of controlling information. Imagine if people, lots and lots of people, had mild-moderate side effects and had to miss work. Every single day off because of covid vaccine side-effects would need to be recorded (IIRC publicly). Imagine if 30% of the people who got the jab had to miss one, or maybe two days off. What would that do to the perception of the harmlessness of the virus?
My office alone there was 8 people by the end of the week who had to take at least 2 days off. Some were off the whole week after getting the second jab last weekend. I can see there being a lot of paperwork if they had to record every single one. Mind you my office didn’t mandate it people are just stupid AF that work there.
 
Imagine if 30% of the people who got the jab had to miss one, or maybe two days off. What would that do to the perception of the harmlessness of the virus?
I have a feeling it would be spun as people taking time off as a form of gaming the system and attempting to milk sympathy from asspatters especially since the mainstream media continues to push the narrative that the COVID vaccines are totally harmless and any side-effects -- no matter how severe -- are inconsequential/normal.

My office alone there was 8 people by the end of the week who had to take at least 2 days off.
During our peak busy time, a coworker who chose to be vaccinated had to take the day off after the second vaccine because of the combination of tiredness and arm soreness. Being a small office, I'm not sure what the boss would do if more than one employee had to miss a day or two at the same time because of the side effects being strong enough to prevent them from working productively.

Most of the time I'm not that paranoid but we have seen some very respectable, big name scientists marginalized or even censored for contradicting the official narrative. Profile says she hasn't logged in since March. :/
@Otterly definitely made a number of informative posts as this thread progressed. So, it's a bit of a bummer when any insightful poster seems to just up and disappear or take time off rather abruptly. We may never know the reason for her hiatus, but one hopes it's because she chose to step away (perhaps dealing with COVID for over a year just got to be too much for her) and not because she's been silenced in some way.
 
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Just recently read a Russian article 'Operation E' on another Russian vaccine, EpiVacCorona, produced by our most prominent virology research institute, Vector (Вектор), famous for researching all infectious diseases, including Ebola and making a vaccine for it.

Since it's really long, here's the gist of it:
- Vector got their vaccine funded by government via direct involvement with Rospotrebnadzor (Russian FDA equivalent);
- Vaccine got an emergency approval even before it was out of 3rd phase of trials;
- Animal trials were promising, but in humans effective antibodies did not form at the same rate;
- Some volunteers who got the EpiVac, still got Corona, and others, who tried to find out if they had antibodies after the shot, had negative results;
- Vector issued volunteers their own test, which can find those antibodies, but no other test shows the same result;
- Volunteers then co-funded their own research, revealing that their plasma did not have a protection against Corona;
- The vaccine itself is a peptide type, it doesn't have the full S-spike coronavirus protein in it, rather, a certain proteins from S-spike were taken, put on a vector-type protein, in hopes that immunized will develop antibodies to parts of S-spike protein without exposing them to the S-spike itself;
- A Russian biologist, working in US, Olga Matveeva, founder of Sendai Viralytics (a wholly-owned subsidiary of
Merck & Co., Inc.), commented that antibodies produced by peptide vaccines are produced both for vector-protein and the peptides taken from the virus. Therefore, if not enough antibodies are formed to viral protein, other antibodies are essentially worthless for protection against coronavirus. Matveeva mentioned that it also matters what parts of S-protein were taken for a peptide-type vaccine: if they took any easily mutating parts, the resulting vaccine will not protect against variants;
- Vector worked on other types of vaccine, including mRNA like Pfizer and viral vector like Sputnik, but the peptide vaccine was considered 'most promising';
- Director of Vector was among the richest people in Russia, according to recent polls.

https://archive.ph/pDQoa - interestingly, somebody archived this article a day ago, but had not used it on KF, as far as search says.

My thoughts on this: even though bribes and corruption, as well as saving face, are wide spread in Russia, somehow this does not seem a malicious attempt, rather, a technology that failed to do what people wanted it to.
Also makes me wondering, if it is somehow connected with Sputnik and Gamalea (or any other vaccine producer, including China) not wanting any competition. Who knows.
 



We can now put these remarks in context. At the time Fauci had been directing hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayers money to the People's Liberation Army run Wuhan Institute of Technology to support their research into making a wild bat virus transmissible to human beings.

These fuckers knew exactly what was coming down the pipe and have been positioning themselves to take advantage of it. Unapologetic, psychopathic liars and murderers.

Now there are reports in today's Australian media that Fauci had ordered around 800K in funds to go directly to the PLA and that he knew damned well their intention to weaponize the gain of function research. Why was our government funding a foreign hostile power's bio-weapons research program?

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that the virus leak was intentional, and that the vaccine program had been primed to go before the pandemic.

Again anyone who gets the shot is a fucking retard.

It's amazing how people looked at that article and thought "Wow, the Trump administration shoulda listen to Emperor Fauci!" instead of "How the hell did Dr. Fauci know this was going to happen?"
 
Pls no bully muh benefactors
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This little shitstain is making me sweat in sheer anger.

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....I could just scream.
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..........so not only did Fauxi lie, he was IN BED WITH THE PEOPLE WHO UNLEASHED THIS SHIT IN THE FIRST PLACE?! AND SO WAS, AT THE VERY LEAST, THE US DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE?!

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So around here the number of coofdeaths per day has been decreasing very slowly and has been practically stagnant since March. Some institute that analyses the official numbers from our Robert Koch Institute found that for an increasing amount of dead people in that number the time between infection and death has been like 10 weeks.
The official line regarding death statistics up until now has been that now there are more younger people in the ICUs that stay sick longer and thus the temporal difference between infection rate and death rate is getting bigger, but apparently that's just not the case.
Apparently the death toll among those old people counted long after their infection follows the natural death rate in that age.
The RKI shifts the blame towards the local health authorities, and basically admits that all the numbers are kinda sorta not really all that useful.
A "*gate" for that is already trending on Twitter, it has been six hours since it started, and I give it another two before it is brigaded to death. As usual, absolutely nothing will come from this.
Oddly enough, it was one of our actual public broadcasters who brought this into the news. Almost felt like "journalism". They even talked about how the testing regime is bullshit and should have been done differently so we could, y'know, actually have useful information.

/edit: Ah, I'm already seeing the counter-narrative: The RKI numbers are actually too low, the IHME estimates that more than twice as many people actually snuffed it to the Coof.
There probably have been more deaths than reported, but that's inevitable for any disease.

The real number I'm worried about (and they will never report) are the deaths as a result of the lockdowns/quarantine/related to COVID. Think drug OD's, alcohol, untreated cancer/disease, domestic violence, murders, suicides. That number is probably in the hundreds of thousands in the US alone.

They'll probably treat them as COVID deaths.
 



We can now put these remarks in context. At the time Fauci had been directing hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayers money to the People's Liberation Army run Wuhan Institute of Technology to support their research into making a wild bat virus transmissible to human beings.

These fuckers knew exactly what was coming down the pipe and have been positioning themselves to take advantage of it. Unapologetic, psychopathic liars and murderers.

Now there are reports in today's Australian media that Fauci had ordered around 800K in funds to go directly to the PLA and that he knew damned well their intention to weaponize the gain of function research. Why was our government funding a foreign hostile power's bio-weapons research program?

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that the virus leak was intentional, and that the vaccine program had been primed to go before the pandemic.

Again anyone who gets the shot is a fucking retard.
Jesus Christ, my paranoia wasn't unfounded. I'm not happy about that (even though it'd be nice to say "I told you so").

And people in my life seriously wonder why the fuck I'm always worried about everything happening outside our own lives as of recent, as though nothing is wrong.

I just can't come up with any witty remarks; I'm just fucking stunned and terrified. I had my suspicions about this all being planned and it's looking more and more like I was right to be wary of this whole damn thing. The pandemic starting at the final year of Trump's first term, the fact that it came from a Chinese lab, this information coming out about how these people have been funding all of this... The riots were most likely just a case of incredibly bad timing but they didn't help. But the vaccine turning up after just a year when it usually takes longer than that to make sure this shit is safe to test on people? That's around the time I really started to question what was going on (I hadn't questioned the pandemic before keeping an eye on - and eventually joining - Kiwi Farms so I'm really glad that this site has opened my eyes).

These people are fucking monsters. It stuns me that more hasn't been done to stop any of this...but deep down, I know that it's because people have been steadily conditioned to not question anything and have gotten dumber as time has gone on. I hate that people have been unwilling to do anything about any of this...or worse, can't do anything. And those on top just continue to...coast on by with not a care in the world, willing to kill literal millions if it means lining their pockets or exerting control over the masses. I know this is how it's always been, but to see them be so blatant and open about it and people STILL failing to catch on is just maddening.

The world absolutely cannot keep going down this path. As I've said elsewhere, if this keeps up and humanity fails to realize that things are not as they seem, I'm honest-to-God scared to death that humanity will wipe itself out very soon (and given how everything bad seems to be accelerating, I do mean very soon). Call me paranoid, autistic, whatever, but I have more than enough reason to be afraid for the future, assuming we still have one.
 
I wonder how much the funding from the USA helped the research? Was it enough to just cover the costs of a few things, or did it make the difference that has led to the shit show?

America funds research into coronavirus and bio weapons, said batflu gets released by chinese and world goes into panic mode due to that grifter Ferguson , who works at a university that has massive investment from china. China no.1 because they may have totally played everyone and just look at the state of things now.
 
There's the subtle difference I often find between silly conspiracy theories and honest-to-god scummy conspiracies of the sort the CIA declassifies every 30 years. It's the difference between "Quick! We need to get rid of Orange Man! Create a virus to do it!" and "Quick, we need to get rid of Orange Man! Oh did one of the things in the rolodex of evil shit we're doing fall out of control? Great, we'll use that one."
 
I just can't come up with any witty remarks; I'm just fucking stunned and terrified. I had my suspicions about this all being planned and it's looking more and more like I was right to be wary of this whole damn thing. The pandemic starting at the final year of Trump's first term, the fact that it came from a Chinese lab, this information coming out about how these people have been funding all of this... The riots were most likely just a case of incredibly bad timing but they didn't help. But the vaccine turning up after just a year when it usually takes longer than that to make sure this shit is safe to test on people? That's around the time I really started to question what was going on (I hadn't questioned the pandemic before keeping an eye on - and eventually joining - Kiwi Farms so I'm really glad that this site has opened my eyes).
I still disagree the virus was intentionally leaked (except China knowingly letting it spread globally). It's the inevitable consequence of playing with fire like what they were doing. Gain of function research is basically trying to pre-empt evolution in making pandemics in a way that we'd easily be able to make a vaccine when it happens. This make me think the intent was that at some point we'd have a pandemic, it would likely be a coronavirus, and with their gain of function research on coronaviruses they'd whip up the vaccine and we'd see the usual vaccine passports and other hoops they make us jump through. This explains all of the reports about a "coming coronavirus epidemic".

The riots I maintain were planned for at least a year in advance. They wanted to amp up the racial tension in the US and they wanted a St. Floyd. Just find a video of a black guy being "abused"/killed by the cops, pull the levers on Big Tech to make it go viral, and start the planned virtue signalling from corporations, the paid protestors/rioters, the coordination against police like with the piles of bricks everywhere and the bussed-in Antifa/BLM thugs. It's just they didn't count on there being a "pandemic" (and they were too late in the planning to cancel them) which made the riots backfire when everyone started asking "so why can these people hold these giant violent 'rallies' but I'm forced to stay home because everything is closed?" Remember the 2-3 weeks around this time last year where there was basically zero mention of the Fauci Flu in the media and it was all "muh racial reckoning ACAB defund da poh-lease Antifa dindu nuffin?"
These people are fucking monsters. It stuns me that more hasn't been done to stop any of this...but deep down, I know that it's because people have been steadily conditioned to not question anything and have gotten dumber as time has gone on. I hate that people have been unwilling to do anything about any of this...or worse, can't do anything. And those on top just continue to...coast on by with not a care in the world, willing to kill literal millions if it means lining their pockets or exerting control over the masses. I know this is how it's always been, but to see them be so blatant and open about it and people STILL failing to catch on is just maddening.

The world absolutely cannot keep going down this path. As I've said elsewhere, if this keeps up and humanity fails to realize that things are not as they seem, I'm honest-to-God scared to death that humanity will wipe itself out very soon (and given how everything bad seems to be accelerating, I do mean very soon). Call me paranoid, autistic, whatever, but I have more than enough reason to be afraid for the future, assuming we still have one.
Humans being wiped out would be merciful compared to what the elites have in mind. The elites want us as their serfs living in a sort of Brave New World style life. Literally nothing else matters to them aside from having control over us (because if they have control, they have our labor and our money). We'll get all sorts of awesome technology from supercomputers to brain implants to space colonization. I mean shit, the gene therapy vaccines are actually really cool technology in of themselves since they can be used to prevent all sorts of diseases.

But the problem is, they don't want it to be used in a way that benefits us. The elites will use this technology for evil and oppression and use it to avoid the consequences of their action. You can't revolt against the elites if they're doping you every day through your brain implant to think that your dinner of worms and cockroaches is the tastiest thing ever and that your tiny pod is the best place in the world, a place you'd never want to leave. It's techno-feudalism, that is the model of the future, where the current elite, their descendents, and a few very lucky ones are the nobles and we're the serfs, except techno-feudalism is far worse than the original feudalism since it reduces us all to animals.

Just count yourself lucky that today's elite are mostly a bunch of arrogant fools coasting on inertia from better days. These aren't the sort of expert warriors, genius politicians, and brilliant theologians who founded the original feudalism, they're more like the decadent and degenerate nobles and clergy of late 18th century France, except somehow even more evil. If/when they fuck up this time and find themselves overthrown, humans might not be so lucky next time. Sadly, I imagine the overthrow of the current world system means a nuclear war/deliberate bioweapon release (like with the scary legitimate bioweapons with 90% kill rates).
 
There probably have been more deaths than reported, but that's inevitable for any disease.

The real number I'm worried about (and they will never report) are the deaths as a result of the lockdowns/quarantine/related to COVID. Think drug OD's, alcohol, untreated cancer/disease, domestic violence, murders, suicides. That number is probably in the hundreds of thousands in the US alone.

They'll probably treat them as COVID deaths.
I bet it is a lot. A friend of mine is a recovering heroin addict. He was 10 years sober until covid hit. He OD'd a few months ago because he got some laced with fentanyl. He didn't die, but he almost did. He's a musician who has been out of work because of covid and I guess the stress of that made him relapse.

Also just had a high school friend who died suddenly and they didn't say what the cause of his death was, but it has been speculated that he had a relapse of his alcoholism and drank himself to death.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who have died, not due to the virus itself, but due to the efforts to control the virus.
 
(because if they have control, they have our labor and our money)
Having human worker bees makes some sense but why do so many people think that the ones making the money printer go brrrr are after our last cans of Who Hash?
Speaking for myself, I doubt any elite would be impressed with my entire estate if I offered it to them.
 
Humans being wiped out would be merciful compared to what the elites have in mind. The elites want us as their serfs living in a sort of Brave New World style life. Literally nothing else matters to them aside from having control over us (because if they have control, they have our labor and our money). We'll get all sorts of awesome technology from supercomputers to brain implants to space colonization. I mean shit, the gene therapy vaccines are actually really cool technology in of themselves since they can be used to prevent all sorts of diseases.

But the problem is, they don't want it to be used in a way that benefits us. The elites will use this technology for evil and oppression and use it to avoid the consequences of their action. You can't revolt against the elites if they're doping you every day through your brain implant to think that your dinner of worms and cockroaches is the tastiest thing ever and that your tiny pod is the best place in the world, a place you'd never want to leave. It's techno-feudalism, that is the model of the future, where the current elite, their descendents, and a few very lucky ones are the nobles and we're the serfs, except techno-feudalism is far worse than the original feudalism since it reduces us all to animals.

Just count yourself lucky that today's elite are mostly a bunch of arrogant fools coasting on inertia from better days. These aren't the sort of expert warriors, genius politicians, and brilliant theologians who founded the original feudalism, they're more like the decadent and degenerate nobles and clergy of late 18th century France, except somehow even more evil. If/when they fuck up this time and find themselves overthrown, humans might not be so lucky next time. Sadly, I imagine the overthrow of the current world system means a nuclear war/deliberate bioweapon release (like with the scary legitimate bioweapons with 90% kill rates).
Slavery didn't fail because humans are some ultra-enlightened species that randomly decided ~150-200 years ago that it was a badwrongevil idea and that we were "above it". Sure, that idea has always been present in some form or another, but it didn't achieve widespread popularity until modernity. I maintain that slavery finally kicked the bucket in the West because it had a physical problem. When you're quickly developing techniques that outstrip human working potential and your human capital can run away in the middle of the night? With unpredictable methods of evading recapture? When you have to prove you own them even if you catch them? It becomes less tenable the more stable other investments get. And good on 'em, if we can invent things that make owning people less tempting then go for it. I just think that viewing slavery as this sort of untouchable horror that only the evil monsters of the past could possibly consider is unrealistic at best, and at worst blinds the commonfolk to the very real avenues through which it could make its big comeback.

Oh wait, we now have the ability to track you down, know your exact movement and location and behavior and can probably use inexpensive persuasive tactics to keep you from fleeing the proverbial plantation? Sounds like slavery's the more attractive option once more.
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