Business Self-Driving Semi-Truck Completes 950-Mile Delivery 10 Hours Faster Than a Human Trucker Could - Self-driving technology has the possibility to radically change the status quo in long haul trucking


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Trucking can be a tough job, with long hours and huge distances to cover. It's a field ripe for automation, as self-driving vehicles could potentially travel further and faster without the need to take regular rest breaks for safety reasons. Several companies are working towards this goal, including TuSimple, who recently put their tech to work delivering watermelons across the country, according to reports from SingularityHub.

The delivery took place from Arizona to Oklahoma, with TuSimple's self-driving truck completing the route in just 14 hours and 6 minutes. The same route by a human driver is estimated to take closer to 24 hours. The self-driving tech took control of the vehicle for over 80% of the drive, handling the middle section from Tuscon, Arizona to Dallas, Texas, a distance of roughly 960 miles. TuSimple's self-driving system is optimized for highway driving, with the majority of the route consisting of driving on Interstate routes. The drives through built-up areas at either end were handled by a human driver, who was onboard for the whole run.

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The shortened travel time isn't just convenient; it has real-world benefits, too. TuSimple chose to demonstrate this by picking its cargo carefully. Fresh produce like watermelons benefit from being delivered quickly. It means the customer ends up with a fresher product, and there's potentially less waste from spoilage, too. While it's unlikely anyone is too excited about getting their watermelon ten hours fresher than usual, the benefits could be much greater on longer runs where self-driving trucks could shave off yet more time. Jim Mullen, TuSimple's Chief Administrative and Legal Officer, stated “Given the fact that autonomous trucks can operate nearly continuously without taking a break means fresh produce can be moved from origin to destination faster, resulting in fresher food and less waste.”

While the run did save significant time, driverless technology has an unfair advantage in this space. Human truck drivers are only allowed to drive for 11 hours out of every 14 hours on the road, with other provisions requiring minimum rest periods in between shifts as well. If true self-driving technology becomes viable for trucking, transit times for all kinds of goods could be slashed as trucks would no longer need to stop for drivers to rest and sleep.

It does beg the question, though—if the human driver is required to be present to supervise the vehicle on the road, then surely maximum shift limits should apply too. While TuSimple is technically testing a Level 4 "self-driving" program rather than using a "driver assist" system like Tesla's AutoPilot, the fact that a human was required to be present indicates that supervision was required. There's also no information regarding whether the human driver had to take over at any point, and if so, how often this occurred. Thus, long hours would still have a negative impact on attention and safety, even if a computer is handling most of the driving.

TuSimple is no flash in the plan, having been working towards the future of autonomous trucking for some years now. The company faces not just technical hurdles in its quest, but opposition from truckers who worry about losing their jobs to robots. The company looks well placed to tackle these issues, but going forward, the proof will be not in the pudding, but the watermelon.



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Translated to Km for us non-burgers.

Coming from a Chinese start-up, I have my doubts about it. Either way, seeing as the Euro Truck Simulator community is so large, I think that the next step is to basically treat trucks like a drone. You just need people sitting behind a computer and they should be able to drive them just fine.

That could be the nail in the coffin for old school truckers -- actual gamers sitting in a comfy room, driving trucks like it's ETS.

 
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A couple things need to happen before this ever becomes widespread.

A. They need to be confident enough to have it drive the whole route without a driver in the car.

B. The first few lawsuits for when there's a glitch and it smears some compact sedan with 3 kids in it need to be resolved
And add to the list then some hackers will have some fun to hack these self-drivring trucks.
 
And add to the list then some hackers will have some fun to hack these self-drivring trucks.
My thoughts exactly. It's also one of the reasons I am so damn tired of the overdependence of cloud providers. Yea, it's "other people's computers" but at this point, it's no different than having every single restaurant in your city using someone else's kitchen, and then said kitchen breaks down. As a result, thousands of restaurants can't function because "oops, the kitchen is down".

This is just boomer logic in action.
 
How to rob an autonomic truck:
Step 1: Get 2 other guys.
Step 2: Get to a point in the Truck route where it stops (an intersection in a bad neighborhood).
Step 3: Tell the first guy to stand in front of the truck, and the second guy stand at the back.
Step 4: Leisurely loot the truck that can't do anything without potentially harming the two guys.

You'll always need a human just to have someone okay running over some niggers.
 
This is all a ponzi scheme that will never get off of the ground unless every single car on the road is 'self-driving'.

Yet all of these self-driving vehicles need a human to be in attendance, meaning you're adding human free-will and randomness in to a system that can only work when no humans are involved.

It would make far more sense to build a 'drone' or train network that can do long-haul transport, vs trucks. Put money in to more rail lines, or 'drone lanes' than it would to chuck money in to AI and auto-driving.

I sure would like to know how a lorry travelled 950 miles without refuelling though.
 
A couple things need to happen before this ever becomes widespread.

A. They need to be confident enough to have it drive the whole route without a driver in the car.

B. The first few lawsuits for when there's a glitch and it smears some compact sedan with 3 kids in it need to be resolved
They test this kind of shit in Africa. That way, if there's an incident the families can be paid off much cheaper than usual.
 
Yet all of these self-driving vehicles need a human to be in attendance, meaning you're adding human free-will and randomness in to a system that can only work when no humans are involved.
I been screaming about this for so long humans and machines cannot coexist. Machines are not irrational, humans are and if one has enough experience you can predict said irrationality to a certain degree but you will never be able to predict it 100% of the time. In order for A.I. to drive with humans irrationality needs to programmed in the algorithm so it can make (predictive) moves not (reactionary) which thats all self driving is.

I sure would like to know how a lorry travelled 950 miles without refuelling though.
Serious? 100gl diesel tanks on each side. With an mpg of around 8 miles per gallon, 950 miles can be done easily.
 
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I actually had a dude who worked in commercial freight talk to me about this the other day, and in his eyes, it's never gonna fucking happen no matter how much certain groups try to make it.

For one, a lot of the longhaul shipping companies are hiring up private individuals who own their own fucking trucks, so in many cases they would need to convince the people already driving the fucking trucks that they themselves fucking own that they should shelve their own jobs. With bigger, more centralized firms that have their own fleets, that's less of an issue, but with a lot of the firms that move bulk freight for different companies that's fucking laughable.

Second is the issues with offboarding. You have a truck shipping about 22 tons of cargo pulling in. It may, or may not, have multiple loads in a single trailer or have cargo that requires special permissions or equipment to offload. Is the fucking truck going to do anything if a delivery target "accidentally" takes all the stock intended for one of the company's other shops? Because that shit happens sometimes and it's a potential disaster when it does *now*, let alone when there's no accountability. Are they going to do something about a group of untrained shits from trying to offload a 750+ pound crate without equipment and fucking killing themselves on your truck?

TL;DR at best he said they'd be swapping one type of driver for another (the kind that only swaps in when needed and keeps an eye on the AI) and at worst he said it would be an entertaining flotilla of fuck-ups waiting to happen. I'm reminded of when some shithead company tested self-driving cars in NY and some wildly entertaining upstate police officers who still understand that humor exists wound up giving the driverless cars tickets for moving violations, giving one like twenty in a day.
 
I been screaming about this for so long humans and machines cannot coexist. Machines are not irrational, humans are and if one has enough experience you can predict said irrationality to a certain degree but you will never be able to predict it 100% of the time. In order for A.I. to drive with humans irrationality needs to programmed in the algorithm so it can make (predictive) moves not (reactionary) which thats all self driving is.
And then when the AI becomes so good that you don't need human interaction, you need human interaction to make other humans feel safer with the interaction, just like planes. Planes have been able to take-off, fly to a destination and land, with ZERO human interaction. We only have pilots to make us feel safer, yet 90% of crashes are human error. Go figure

Serious? 100gl diesel tanks on each side. With an mpg of around 8 miles per gallon, 950 miles can be done easily.
TIL
 
I actually had a dude who worked in commercial freight talk to me about this the other day, and in his eyes, it's never gonna fucking happen no matter how much certain groups try to make it.

For one, a lot of the longhaul shipping companies are hiring up private individuals who own their own fucking trucks, so in many cases they would need to convince the people already driving the fucking trucks that they themselves fucking own that they should shelve their own jobs. With bigger, more centralized firms that have their own fleets, that's less of an issue, but with a lot of the firms that move bulk freight for different companies that's fucking laughable.

Second is the issues with offboarding. You have a truck shipping about 22 tons of cargo pulling in. It may, or may not, have multiple loads in a single trailer or have cargo that requires special permissions or equipment to offload. Is the fucking truck going to do anything if a delivery target "accidentally" takes all the stock intended for one of the company's other shops? Because that shit happens sometimes and it's a potential disaster when it does *now*, let alone when there's no accountability. Are they going to do something about a group of untrained shits from trying to offload a 750+ pound crate without equipment and fucking killing themselves on your truck?

TL;DR at best he said they'd be swapping one type of driver for another (the kind that only swaps in when needed and keeps an eye on the AI) and at worst he said it would be an entertaining flotilla of fuck-ups waiting to happen. I'm reminded of when some shithead company tested self-driving cars in NY and some wildly entertaining upstate police officers who still understand that humor exists wound up giving the driverless cars tickets for moving violations, giving one like twenty in a day.
What's going to happen is that the self driving trucks will be sold to Tesla like company who has a trillion dollar warchest. They would build everything in house from loading station to unloading, and so on. They would compete directly against the traditional trucking companies.

Will see what happens.
 
It would make far more sense to build a 'drone' or train network that can do long-haul transport, vs trucks. Put money in to more rail lines, or 'drone lanes' than it would to chuck money in to AI and auto-driving.
Maybe 'drone-only' lanes would make sense, but do you think that's actually going to happen? In all likelihood these trucks will be used as a lever to push this technology on everyone else. Thus, everyone is more dependent upon centralized systems of control than ever, and the power of those controlling those systems is only strengthened.

This is why I hate cars. You can't get anywhere without them, but they end up being just another way for the government to monitor you and control your behavior.
 
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