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[JCnGGd32]

I'm not even sure if your friend passes as a troon in that picture, or maybe my brain is just being scrambled by the electrolysis rash. I feel the hair, especially at the top just looks male, looks like what you'd expect on a guy that grew his hair out. The nose is very interesting as well -- uniquely shaped nostrils.

The actual presentation just seems like it's directly cribbed from some gender affirmative care handbook (or some reddit resource), and then made less grammatical. Did he have a bibliography?

If I had to guess, it's probably all from one source, but then combined with his own personal knowledge & experiences. I personally suspect that that the "don't ask transwomen to do their male voice" dot point was a conscious addition based on past experience. The surgery point may belong in the same category, but that's more generic. Neither of them are really relevant to pediatric care.

The lack of a theoretical basis is also standard in all gender affirming care narratives, at best you'll get some oblique reference to gender identity being "established" at 18 months or maybe to some Olson-Kennedy study about how gender non-conforming children are - get this - gender non-conforming with respect to their sex (this is peer-reviewed Science, you see). It's worth noting that the sense in which they mean "established" is hard to establish though. In fact, often they seem to stake out a position wherein gender is some sui generis form of identification that follows some predetermined (but unknowable) path. This is the ad hoc defense offered against the obvious fact that their patients' 'gender identities' do in fact commonly change.

In order to then justify the medical interventions they then just assert that non-affirmed patients are a high suicide risk. The evidence for this is literally internet surveys with poor data validation conducted by partisan organizations & individuals. This is also where the 41% statistic comes from. Many of the clinicians are quite conscious of the absurdity of their position, and I think that's what drives the impetus to trivialize the medical interventions they push. Hence, Olson-Kennedy's "if they want their breasts back later then they can just go get 'em re-attached" quip or the constant insistence on the benignity of puberty blockers.

He says that he cannot smell anymore - I imagine because of the plastic surgery ("facial feminising surgery") that makes his nose like that. He also said that he previously had meningitis and went cross-eyed for a few years. Was this brain damage a contributing factor??

There was no reference list at the end, though admittedly we did not finish the presentation because he ran over after 2 hours. No portion of the presentation was devoted to the outcomes of transitioning with regards to mental health. I will admit that I zoned out because it was so boring, but from my memory, the only message was "it's so hard to transition because all doctors are evil and gatekeep... you have to help them! No questions asked!"

In the Q&A section the speech therapist asked "I have transgender youth coming to me asking for help with changing their voice to be more feminine, I cannot do this, who do I refer to?" and my coworker says "it's so hard to find places, I found my voice coach online. It was an older MTF in USA." - are we to refer teenage boys to grown trans groomers???

I could go on for days about this coworker.

Spoiler: Going on for days

He shows up at 8:59 for a 9:00 appointment and immediately has to go to the toilet because of his ulcerative colitis. He wears jeans and open toed sandals to work every day. He goes on his phone DURING sessions (he is not treating anyone as he does not have registration, but still is observing others). He swears and uses adult language in front of the children. He has no social grace whatsoever - just lingering, walking into rooms without knocking, talking about himself, being boring. He makes personal comments, e.g. you can use a real life (impersonal) story to relate to kids "when I was young I also loved the sandpit, once I made a tunnel so long I stuck my leg into it", but don't make it personal "when I was your age I was bullied for having red hair, and it made me depressed". He uses his female voice - which is a croaky frog whisper which is impossible to understand, but then will shout "OH FUCK" in a deep booming MAN voice because ... he saw a bug ... in Australia....

He complains that he doesn't make any money TO CLIENTS and complains about having to come into work. This is an internship, and guess what buddy, it's NOT mandatory! Be grateful! He also brags that a relative died and left him with $20,000 in the bank. He lives with his mother and has braces at age 28. He complains that he's single in the country because there's no good lesbians about (a good reason for me to remain closeted at work). He wants to move to Sydney and hook up with all the sexy lesbos. Frankly, I don't think he cares about children at all.

 

[Scolopendra Dramatica]

Women talk about vaginas frequently. I've never heard a woman just talk about her clit for some random reason.

Do we??

I dunno, maybe I haven't spoken to enough women, having gone to an all girl's school and working in a female heavy workplace, but this is news to me.

The only time girls talk genitals to me is either to discuss if some ex had a funny looking dick or if there's some health issue she's worried about.

 

[poggers]

Do we??

I dunno, maybe I haven't spoken to enough women, having gone to an all girl's school and working in a female heavy workplace, but this is news to me.

The only time girls talk genitals to me is either to discuss if some ex had a funny looking dick or if there's some health issue she's worried about.

Yeah we don't talk about vaginas the way men talk about dicks. And I've never talked about my clit to anyone in my life. So MTFs can start calling their dicks clits and sit around having a clit chat and its just another in the long list of things troons think women do, like having naked pillowfights at slumber parties while crying a lot and having full body orgasms

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Interesting take on the recent Saxony-Anhalt state election:
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https://twitter.com/addaleax/status/1401582281647611905

LMAO Nazis everywhere. Watch out for World War troon.

 

[Gamergirl Cleanup Crew]

Why do these tranny's keep name/cover dropping FalloutNV? I never played it so I'm pretty confused.

Because they're nerdy autistic men.

 

[OttoWest]

Do intersex people want to be counted with these weird degenerates? They didn't ask to be born that way and are usually against surgical intervention.

The Intersex Society of North America is now folded into a new org, but they were one of the biggest advocacy groups for people with intersex conditions for a long time.

They were very not down with the trans.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Do we??

I dunno, maybe I haven't spoken to enough women, having gone to an all girl's school and working in a female heavy workplace, but this is news to me.

The only time girls talk genitals to me is either to discuss if some ex had a funny looking dick or if there's some health issue she's worried about.

Mostly the subject is about periods. The fact remains I've never heard women randomly bring up stuff about their clits. It's generally not a topic of conversation.

 

[stupid moron]

Omg, how fucking arrogant and narcy do you have to be to tell an author they’re wrong about a character they actually created?

“Your character is based around a flawed premise”

“Okay let me re-write the character so it makes more sense”

“NNOOOO YOURE LITERALLY KILLING TRANS PEOPLE”
never mind the fact it’s fucking fiction and doesn’t need to make sense

 

[Julie Newmar]

Mostly the subject is about periods. The fact remains I've never heard women randomly bring up stuff about their clits. It's generally not a topic of conversation.

I think a lot of that comes from discussing function/impact on life rather than specific anatomy. I don’t mind discussing with other women friends the fact that no, I will not be doing anything fun Saturday, it’s the first day of my period so imma be a bitch and in pain. We definitely will talk about wide-breadth issues caused under the umbrella of “woman’s anatomical dealio.” But I would feel immensely weird talking about a pea-sized organ used only for sexual pleasure.

 

[Scolopendra Dramatica]

Mostly the subject is about periods. The fact remains I've never heard women randomly bring up stuff about their clits. It's generally not a topic of conversation.

I agree on the last part, but it's the equating period talk to vaginas that I'm being a pedantic bastard on. Whilst the two are related, period talk is a weird one; it's not so much talking about privates as it is comparing physiological side effects. Particularly as a teenager, it's more about figuring out whether your weird medical issues are the norm. There's a lot more to a period than bleeding and there's a lot to worry about that isn't really spoken about except between friends. It's almost exactly the same feeling as chatting about that cold/flu that's been going around. There's a lot of "Did you get this too?" type discussion.

It's not really a conversation about genitals more what else is going on around them.

It's a very obvious tell for troons as you well know. So yeah, I agree with you, I just wouldn't put period talk in the same bracket as genital talk, they feel like two completely different universes to me.

 

[Logical Fallacies]

Interesting take on the recent Saxony-Anhalt state election:
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https://twitter.com/addaleax/status/1401582281647611905

Even Sarah Wagenknecht hates these people enough to write a book about how they are destroying the Left.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

I agree on the last part, but it's the equating period talk to vaginas that I'm being a pedantic bastard on. Whilst the two are related, period talk is a weird one; it's not so much talking about privates as it is comparing physiological side effects. Particularly as a teenager, it's more about figuring out whether your weird medical issues are the norm. There's a lot more to a period than bleeding and there's a lot to worry about that isn't really spoken about except between friends. It's almost exactly the same feeling as chatting about that cold/flu that's been going around. There's a lot of "Did you get this too?" type discussion.

It's not really a conversation about genitals more what else is going on around them.

It's a very obvious tell for troons as you well know. So yeah, I agree with you, I just wouldn't put period talk in the same bracket as genital talk, they feel like two completely different universes to me.

Probably a bit of difference between talking about your yeast infection / period / whatever and uWu I have a massive clitty that I stroke all the time

 

[DumbDude42]

Do we??

I dunno, maybe I haven't spoken to enough women, having gone to an all girl's school and working in a female heavy workplace, but this is news to me.

The only time girls talk genitals to me is either to discuss if some ex had a funny looking dick or if there's some health issue she's worried about.

a certain small subset of women are extreme narcissists who think that talking about their genitals is some kind of deep and profound act of bravery, hence ludicrous cringefests like "the vagina monologues" exist

from my experience irl, women actually tend to be more prudish and reserved than men, but the loud public broadcasting of feminists wearing pussy hats kinda overrides this in the minds of some people, so they get the impressions that women just love talking about their cunts all day lol

 

[Raisin Boy]

For better or worse, income class is the skeleton key that truly undermines and undoes the comforts of the ruling order (in the scenario that the masses were to become focused on leveling class disparities). The reason why race trumps everything in identity politics is that identity politics is just one (among many) tools/shields that are used by the ruling class against the upheaval of the existing order. People could spend the next 100 years squabbling about racial politics and life will carry on as normal. The minute people of all races start to identify primarily with their class cohorts and unite based along class lines, start a timer, because time is ticking on society as we know it. A black millionaire has more in common with a white millionaire in basically every metric for health and quality of life than a white millionaire/white Appalachian or a black millionaire/black hoodrat. Meanwhile, when race is at stake, someone like Kamala Harris who is within the top five most powerful people on the planet can grandstand all day about her plight as a downtrodden ~~*~*woman of color*~*~~ (LOL)

A united lower class is the stuff of nightmares for the ruling class. So it's convenient for the media and the ruling class to hyperfocus on race.

Spoiler: Powerleveling about what my opinion is

IMO, the existing order is terrible in many ways (eg public school Teachers teaching 2nd graders about troons and anal sex) but I would imagine living through a major uprising or revolution is orders of magnitude worse so I basically I see agitating for "dismantling the system" (as batshit leftists love to speak of) as insane. I'd rather keep the system if it means the grocery stores have food on the shelves and the lights, heat, and power come on when I flip the switch. Also, exactly NONE of the people I've seen (Antifa losers or Extremists on the right) advocating total upheaval seem like the type of people any of us can trust to be turning the knobs on the human civilization control panel.

Whatever. Come quickly Lord Jesus.

Spoiler: Powerleveling

I have spent most of my adult life trying to raise class consciousness. No, I don't advocate for revolution, or abolishing the police, or "dismantling the system." All I want is a working class that's capable of advocating for itself, being represented by politicians who care about their needs. When I talk politics, I exclusively talk about policy and unionization. It's very simple and inoffensive to most people. I'm experienced enough to truly understand full well: idpol exists to undermine my movement. It's boner-kryptonite to the worker. It distracts, alienates, and turns away the people that would be helped the most. It's pure sabotage.

There is no greater perpetrator of idpol than the fucking troons. I cannot fucking stand that the left have hitched their wagon to troonery. Leftism should have nothing to say about troons other than "well, I guess everyone has rights." They create reactionaries out of generationally poor whites by pushing their liberal bullshit everywhere they go, punching down on people whose lives have only gotten shittier and shittier since the Clinton years. When union boys swing to the right, you know you've fucked up. It works on every other demographic too -- black and Hispanic votership for Trump e.g. rose in 2020, because when the democrats aren't offering you shit and you see a shrieking troon with a BLM shirt, and you're a social conservative, you move right.

The thing is, loser troons who are losers right now are not going to become winners even in the world they want to create. Even the most generous social policy would entitle them to three hots and a cot and, most importantly, a fucking job. They're so pathetic that even with no glass ceiling, they wouldn't ascend the ladder very far.

 

[mister butafuco]

I would like to add that women hardly every refer to their clitoris. If they do, it s a 'clitoris' or 'clit'. The word is never, ever, ever 'clitty'. Just typing the word makes me feel a bit greasy. Any transwoman using that word clearly does not wish to pass.

 

[stupid frog]

Omg, how fucking arrogant and narcy do you have to be to tell an author they’re wrong about a character they actually created?

Seems kind of racist to me, too. Not a good look, trannys! Do better!

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Do straight men regularly talk about their dicks with each other? Seems kinda gay.

I'm not even sure if your friend passes as a troon in that picture, or maybe my brain is just being scrambled by the electrolysis rash. I feel the hair, especially at the top just looks male, looks like what you'd expect on a guy that grew his hair out. The nose is very interesting as well -- uniquely shaped nostrils.

The actual presentation just seems like it's directly cribbed from some gender affirmative care handbook (or some reddit resource), and then made less grammatical. Did he have a bibliography?

If I had to guess, it's probably all from one source, but then combined with his own personal knowledge & experiences. I personally suspect that that the "don't ask transwomen to do their male voice" dot point was a conscious addition based on past experience. The surgery point may belong in the same category, but that's more generic. Neither of them are really relevant to pediatric care.

The lack of a theoretical basis is also standard in all gender affirming care narratives, at best you'll get some oblique reference to gender identity being "established" at 18 months or maybe to some Olson-Kennedy study about how gender non-conforming children are - get this - gender non-conforming with respect to their sex (this is peer-reviewed Science, you see). It's worth noting that the sense in which they mean "established" is hard to establish though. In fact, often they seem to stake out a position wherein gender is some sui generis form of identification that follows some predetermined (but unknowable) path. This is the ad hoc defense offered against the obvious fact that their patients' 'gender identities' do in fact commonly change.

In order to then justify the medical interventions they then just assert that non-affirmed patients are a high suicide risk. The evidence for this is literally internet surveys with poor data validation conducted by partisan organizations & individuals. This is also where the 41% statistic comes from. Many of the clinicians are quite conscious of the absurdity of their position, and I think that's what drives the impetus to trivialize the medical interventions they push. Hence, Olson-Kennedy's "if they want their breasts back later then they can just go get 'em re-attached" quip or the constant insistence on the benignity of puberty blockers.

There's a nice section in Shrier's book that captures the essence of the position:

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I actually think this is even worse in girls. I think males tend to be far less dependent on the belief in being literally ontologically and biologically the opposite-sex 'gender'.

Males seem to be far more interested in things like having female secondary sex characteristics, LARPing as a woman or getting access to female spaces. The actual justification often seems a little secondary. It still matters to them and does underpin the decisions they make, but it's more about justifying themselves in the face of others.

Females in contrast take the "wrong body" type ideas very seriously, believing them reflexively and justifying their actions on that basis without any ulterior aims. For them, gender identity is more about aversion to being a woman, and not about satiating any particular desire -- beyond, of course, getting rid of "gender dysphoria".

Spoiler: Continued

Even the positively desired things are often not desirable in and of themselves, but rather as symbols; synecdoches for their assumed identities, confirmation of 'validity'. Male troon desires tits so that he can play with them and post (disgusting) lewds, the female troon wants top surgery scars so that she can know and show that she's really a "trans man" -- that she belongs, is valid etc.. They're only symbols.

The rigid medicalized view of "being trans" is also why so-called transmedicalists are mostly FtMs. Almost paradoxically, the lack of desire for trappings of masculinity and the importance of identity labeling is why you get "He/Him" girls wearing more make-up than a clown. Comparatively, Daniel Muscato type characters are much rarer amongst men, more often you just get lazy autists whose problem is mostly that they can't hack personal care in the first place, let alone the greater demands of female presentation.

Even among FtMs who do attempt to present as men, it is absurdly common to find them wistfully longing for when they'll be able to go back to dyeing their hair or wearing eye-liner. The idea being that while they're early in transition, they won't pass if they do feminine things, but once they have a pube beard then they can go back to wearing mascara and still pass. This is delusional in 2021, but they don't realize this apparently. Again, the contrast with MtFs is instructive. They don't think the make-up or w/e is a chore. They revel in it, it's the most 'euphoric' part of their otherwise miserable existence. Even if there is something they would like to be able to do, but "can't" it's not something masculine, rather it's something like get a pixie cut.

On a related tangent, I found this today:
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Note the "born cis" -- she's not being philosophical:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/nu53da/does_anyone_here_not_want_to_be_a_cis_man/ (X)
The joke is often that FtMs don't even want to be men, but here they straight up say it. Their notion of being a man is being like a woman, but with male physical characteristics.

I’ve noticed this FTM behavior too with wanting to go back to wearing makeup, etc., and I don’t get it. I don’t think psychiatrists/gender therapists/etc. do either, because it’s a totally new thing.

If you look at FTMs up to around, say, 2010, they were all super butch women first. The type of woman who is thrilled when she can move out and her mom stops telling her to put some mascara on before leaving the house. While most butch women are secure in their gender identity as women, the idea that one of them would want to become a man intuitively makes sense. Dress like a man, have masculine hobbies, a masculine job, like feminine women. But Gaydens? It doesn’t make sense. They like being feminine! They want to be feminine! But they also want terrible facial hair and top surgery. They want to be feminine without being women, that’s the thing.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I agree on the last part, but it's the equating period talk to vaginas that I'm being a pedantic bastard on. Whilst the two are related, period talk is a weird one; it's not so much talking about privates as it is comparing physiological side effects. Particularly as a teenager, it's more about figuring out whether your weird medical issues are the norm. There's a lot more to a period than bleeding and there's a lot to worry about that isn't really spoken about except between friends. It's almost exactly the same feeling as chatting about that cold/flu that's been going around. There's a lot of "Did you get this too?" type discussion.

Talking about periods and weird bumps on your labia were common. Talking about your clit was certainly not. I generally support being open with talking about sex and genitalia though, although not in the creepy troon way.

Otherwise you get shit like this:

Woman in India had vaginal agenesis due to MRKH, Pajeet husband decided any hole was a goal. Probably wondered why she never got pregnant too.

 

[Hoi Polloi Boy Toy]

If you look at FTMs up to around, say, 2010, they were all super butch women first. The type of woman who is thrilled when she can move out and her mom stops telling her to put some mascara on before leaving the house. While most butch women are secure in their gender identity as women, the idea that one of them would want to become a man intuitively makes sense. Dress like a man, have masculine hobbies, a masculine job, like feminine women. But Gaydens? It doesn’t make sense. They like being feminine! They want to be feminine! But they also want terrible facial hair and top surgery. They want to be feminine without being women, that’s the thing.

I recently overheard a conversation between some middle aged women that shed some light on this for me. Every single one of them agreed that going through puberty as a girl absolutely sucked. They start going through a lot of changes and they aren't comfortable in their own bodies anymore. Of course this is a perfectly normal part of puberty, but the first thing a lot of young impressionable girls do these days is run to the internet and say 'Help! I don't feel right in my body!' and then the trannies and internet experts swoop and say 'OMG it's because you're actually a man.' Become a man so you don't have to deal with all the new annoyances of becoming a woman (grooming, wearing a bra, etc.), but still enjoy all the girly stuff like you did before puberty kicked in. They're just trying to recapture their youth.

 

[Positron]

Do straight men regularly talk about their dicks with each other? Seems kinda gay.

Only as jokes and friendly put-downs. We don't discuss, because that is -- you said it -- gay.