“Sewer Heat” Could Help Fight Climate Change


A surprising amount of energy goes down the drain every day.

The next time you shower, take note — you see an average of 17 gallons rinsing down the drain. Between toilets, showers, handwashing, dishwashing, face washing, laundry, we're flushing a continuous stream of water into the sewer lines each day.

The U.S. Department of Energy estimated in 2005 that Americans wasted the equivalent of 350 billion kilowatt-hours (kWh) of energy each year from unused hot water — about 3,000 kWh per household. To put things in perspective, the average American household consumes roughly 11,000 kWh of electricity every year.

By gathering excess warm water flowing through the sewer lines and storing it in a temperature-controlled pit, the stored heat can serve as a year-round energy source.
The city of Denver plans to tap into those underground heat reserves by constructing North America's largest sewage heat recovery facility — increasing our renewable energy options to fight climate change.

"Sewer heat," say what? When we think of clean energy, we usually think of wind generators grinding in the breeze or solar panels soaking up sunlight. But energy is all around us — much of it squandered because we don't know how to capture it.

The concept, called "sewer heat recovery," is gaining traction as a green power solution.

By gathering excess warm water flowing through the sewer lines from showers, dishwashers, etc., and storing it in a temperature-controlled pit, the stored heat can serve as a year-round energy source. Then, a heat pump (which works like a reverse air conditioner) can tap into the heat from the wastewater to create usable energy again.

"With the advent of large-scale heat pumps, we can cost-effectively use, say, 70-degree wastewater to heat our buildings and our hot-water systems," Shanti Pless, an engineer with the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, told NPR.

The project: Although heat recovery systems have been around for quite some time, Denver plans to take it to the next level by building the largest sewer heat recovery project in North America.

Over the next few years, a $1 billion remodeling project will turn the National Western Center into an art and agriculture site, heated and cooled by the sewer water buried in the sewer lines below. Heat exchangers will transport wastewater heat to different parts of the campus via an ambient loop, with a central plant pumping water out to the buildings, reports Energy News-Record.

"We're making long-term decisions for this campus about how we are going to heat and cool these buildings, and there's a lot of ways that you can do that," Brad Buchanan, the CEO leading the redevelopment, told The Denver Post. "While it may not seem very romantic to look at sanitary sewer lines, in fact, there is tremendous thermal energy in them."

The benefits of wastewater: The Center could save big when it comes to environmental impact. Even if wastewater is clean after getting processed by a water treatment plant, the warm water can impact river and lake ecosystems when it exits the sewer lines.

But with sewer heat recovery, not only can the warm water be converted back into usable energy, it also doesn't disrupt the temperature of nearby bodies of water.

Despite its dirty connotations, sewage water is actually a clean energy source; unlike coal or other forms of power, it doesn't release carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The National Western Center estimates that the initiative will save tons of carbon, reports NPR.

"It'll be interesting to see if folks start to look at not just where light rail lines or good schools are located, but what's the proximity to a large sanitary sewer line," Buchanan told NPR. Proximity to a large sewer might not have been appealing before, but Buchanan thinks that could change and become appealing for the energy cost savings.
 
Despite its dirty connotations, sewage water is actually a clean energy source; unlike coal or other forms of power, it doesn't release carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The National Western Center estimates that the initiative will save tons of carbon, reports NPR.
I don't care how clean it is, if you're going to do this could you please make sure that this form of energy isn't even close to touching p00p and pee?
 
a $1 billion remodeling project will turn the National Western Center into an art and agriculture site, heated and cooled by the sewer water buried in the sewer lines below. Heat exchangers will transport wastewater heat to different parts of the campus via an ambient loop, with a central plant pumping water out to the buildings
Found the grift.
 
I need a time machine so I can go back in time and tell the WWII generation that, for the love of God, they need to make their fucking children fucking suffer worse than they did in the Depression or instead of a great future of flying cars, we'll be using piss and shit to heat buildings because they believe a few tons of carbon will doom the Earth.
 
it's called 'waste heat' for a reason - yes there is energy in warm wastewater. no it generally is not useful, because it's not hot enough.
systems that exchange heat energy for mechanical energy need a high temperature differential to achieve high efficiency. if you try to run a heat engine on lukewarm sewage your efficiency will be abysmal.
 
If you want to generate energy from shit then just do the Cities Skylines thing and run it through turbines. You're not going to get any output from lukewarm sewer water, this sounds dumber than Solar Freakin' Roadways and that's really something.

 
Found the grift.
Of course making money's the end goal of this shit. If it ain't profitable, it ain't worth pursuing. See below:
How about finding an actual solution instead of trying to experiment with half baked ideas?
Like, oh, I dunno, nuclear power? But no. Why?
But factoring in the costs of construction, nuclear is far from the cheapest energy source available. In fact, in Europe it is more expensive than coal and gas, even when factoring in a price for carbon. It is also more expensive than onshore wind and, in many countries, solar, and the cost of these renewable energies is coming down fast.
There's your answer.
 
I don't care how clean it is, if you're going to do this could you please make sure that this form of energy isn't even close to touching p00p and pee?

It's like the cooling systems on nuclear plants, where the hot stuff is in one chamber and then they run a pipe up next to it to cool it off.

I've wondered for a long time why thermal energy isn't used more. The soil temperature at 2 feet in most of the US is about 60 degrees year round, which is enough to make it warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer. It's free energy.
 
Like, oh, I dunno, nuclear power? But no. Why?
So the thing about studies claiming nuclear is expensive is that they typically ignore the fact that, once you pay off the construction costs, it's basically free.
Like any long term investment, you're in the hole for a few years before you turn a profit. A lot of these studies are akin to seeing someone pay $10,000 for stock with 5% dividend yield and trying to calculate his profit after 10 years.
Fucker hasn't even made his money back yet.
 
It's like the cooling systems on nuclear plants, where the hot stuff is in one chamber and then they run a pipe up next to it to cool it off.

I've wondered for a long time why thermal energy isn't used more. The soil temperature at 2 feet in most of the US is about 60 degrees year round, which is enough to make it warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer. It's free energy.
Geothermal energy makes too much sense.
 
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I'm actually impressed, regardless of how practical the idea is.

I consider environmentalists to be the kind of privileged folk that work with AC and don't even know what a fatberg is. Having one of them remember that sewers exist at all exceeds my expectations.

I don't expect an environmentalist to stoop to helping destroy the fatbergs, that job is still beneath them, but baby steps.
 
I'm actually impressed, regardless of how practical the idea is.

I consider environmentalists to be the kind of privileged folk that work with AC and don't even know what a fatberg is. Having one of them remember that sewers exist at all exceeds my expectations.

I don't expect an environmentalist to stoop to helping destroy the fatbergs, that job is still beneath them, but baby steps.

Really depends on the environmentalist.

Some don't know what a fatberg is, some will bioengineer some enzymes that will destroy all ocean life, some will call their congressman and petition for mandatory household cooking oil recycling, and some will sneak down there in the middle of the night and set fire to the thing.
 
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And what happens if someone gets some sort of poisoning, like carbon monoxide or hydrogen sulfide, from it? Or a viral infection like hepatitis?
 
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