Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[AbraCadaver]

i think russ does get that you need talent to make it big in entertainment.
but russ seriously believes himself to be a super talented musical genius, he genuinely thinks that all the normies would absolutely LOVE his work and make him into an international megastar, if he was just given a bit of initial exposure to get the ball rolling.

Thing is, Jobriath WAS talented. A lot of people thought so, and he had a classical upbringing and wrote a lot of his own stuff.

Even with genuine talent, “connections” can’t force the world to like you.

 

[Sona]

He doesn't want to be the star, he wants to be the songwriter for the star. He sees how much money those writers make and he wants it. He knows well enough to know that he can't possibly be the star, but he is deluded enough to think he can cut straight to writing for one.

That's interesting, but I personally never got the feeling that he wants money as much as fame, adoration and unlimited pop star BJ's. I feel like we rarely hear him rant about wanting to get rich or how much money there is to make in the biz, and so on.

 

[RodgerDodger]

So what next for our stunning and brave disabled hero? Trying to get his songs injected into Kpop and creeping on the kpop tarts? Isn't that what the hip and cool young people that Russel is absolutely one of, want these days?

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

Another fun fact...anyone remember Jobriath? No? He was aggressively marketed as the new David Bowie, the new megastar, billboard in Times Square...and nobody wanted him. All the tours and media push and “people in the Biz” could not make the world accept Jobriath. He had connections out the arse, money behind him, marketing campigns, interviews, shows...but he was not what the public wanted, so his star never got off the ground.

Russ does not get that. He thinks “the Biz” throws money at you and tells the world you’re famous and suddenly, you’re a success. He thinks if the Hollywood Powers That Be decide you will be a star, then it just happens. He thinks it’s not what you know, but who you know.

Jobriath’s team knew everybody and he still flopped.

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Jobriath was more a failure of marketing than anything else. They tried to turn him into something that he wasn't and while the man had talent, he wasn't the "rock god" that they made him out to be. He had a good voice and stage presence but maybe he was a little too camp considering he was the "first" openly gay rock performer. Had he done Europe first he might have been a lot bigger than he actually was.

You can't create a sensation through marketing. Either the people feel it or they don't. Hype only gets you so far. If Pipsqueak were to focus on the music and writing good songs and not it being about pretty women he wants to bang he might have a future. But in the end the only thing he has is his ego.

 

[Some Badger]

I kinda doubt Russell wants a career in music so much as he views it as a stepping stone to get the attention of boyfriend-free girls with big Instagram followings. If he gave a shit about getting into the music industry at all, he'd actually try to put more time and effort into playing piano, learning new instruments on top of that, learning how to record professionally on consumer-grade hardware and understanding the ins and outs of Pro Tools.

However, instead of doing any of that, Russ continues to write garbage love songs that he outsources to production companies and freelancers on Fiverr, because writing a song, regardless of the quality of the finished product, is less time-intensive and more immediately gratifying than learning how to get gud.

 

[Henry Bemis]

I think he is aware of the fact he can't be the face of his songs.

If Russell had a noble impulse to be a songwriter* — or, simply, if Russell wasn’t Russell — I would heartily acknowledge the onus of having to recruit other people to sing his material for demos, et cetera, because he physically cannot put it across.

*Of course, one could argue that the chief impulse to get into music has always been to get laid.

 

[Some Badger]

If Russell had a noble impulse to be a songwriter* — or, simply, if Russell wasn’t Russell — I would heartily acknowledge the onus of having to recruit other people to sing his material for demos, et cetera, because he physically cannot put it across.

*Of course, one could argue that the chief impulse to get into music has always been to get laid.

I don't even think he needs to learn how to sing, he can still outsource that part to other professionals and it's probably for the best that he does. If he knew how to compose instrumentals with audio editing software, I imagine his creative vision would be better realized rather than shitting on the studios he pays to make his music for "not getting it." Of course, this all hinges on Russ being able to let go of his ego and acknowledge that aggressively simping for women far out of his league with songs that could be made with GarageBand samplers is not his ticket out of a mediocre, meaningless existence on the Vegas Strip.

 

[TractorGirl]

That's interesting, but I personally never got the feeling that he wants money as much as fame, adoration and unlimited pop star BJ's. I feel like we rarely hear him rant about wanting to get rich or how much money there is to make in the biz, and so on.

I don’t think he technically cares about fame or money, I think he just wants something as “proof” that he’s better than everyone he meets, to throw it in his bio-families face, and anyone whose ever laughed at his gimp maw.

 

[Drowningman]

After reading this thread,his book and even NULL's stream on his lolsuit and everything Russell has done,the chip on his shoulder is the size of Jupiter. He feels he is entitled to whatever he wants above all others and tries to get it in the most ignorant,disgusting ways imaginable as his lawsuits and stalking. I'm disabled but I sure dont use it for an excuse for when things don't go my way.
Using the disability excuse will run off or sour any friends you have real quickly.
I'm sure any friends he had got away from him because of that.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Russ does not get that. He thinks “the Biz” throws money at you and tells the world you’re famous and suddenly, you’re a success. He thinks if the Hollywood Powers That Be decide you will be a star, then it just happens. He thinks it’s not what you know, but who you know.

Even if it did work that way, songwriters don't get famous usually. Sure, a good songwriter can earn a lot of money, and be well known within the music industry, but they're rarely household names. I've used her as a example before: Cathy Dennis had a brief solo singing career in the early 90s, but her real gift is songwriting. She wrote "I kissed a girl" for Katy Perry and "Toxic" for Britney Spears. She's not famous to the public, but she laughs all the way to the bank.

 

[The I Scream Man]

He really doesn't understand that he doesn't actually want to be famous, the average joe couldn't handle that level of scrutiny and if he suddenly appears in front of the public they will perceive all his flaws and he'll have a mental breakdown for real.

 

[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

I think my favourite bit of Pipsqueak’s stardom aspirations is that he wants to get into the teeny bop, pop market.

He’s about 15 years too old to break into that sector. He’s not a cute lil Justin Beiber who all the tweens can picture as their boyfriend and he’s not a hot young girl the tweens want to be.

Add that he looks a good ten years older than he really is on a good day and even if he was fantastic, he’s just going to come over as cringe. It’s like your dad showing up to the school disco.

He’s so totally oblivious to how he comes across in every area of his life and this is just another example of Russ proving himself to be King of Cringe.

I think he wants to get famous that way because he thinks lots of women will want to fuck him if he does. He sees pop music as having a mostly female audience, sees that Taylor Swift concerts have a mostly female audience, and has decided he wants those girls/women screaming for him instead, and thinks if he was just a little famous, all those women would want him.

 

[Hamsteroid]

Another fun fact...anyone remember Jobriath? No? He was aggressively marketed as the new David Bowie, the new megastar, billboard in Times Square...and nobody wanted him. All the tours and media push and “people in the Biz” could not make the world accept Jobriath. He had connections out the arse, money behind him, marketing campigns, interviews, shows...but he was not what the public wanted, so his star never got off the ground.

Russ does not get that. He thinks “the Biz” throws money at you and tells the world you’re famous and suddenly, you’re a success. He thinks if the Hollywood Powers That Be decide you will be a star, then it just happens. He thinks it’s not what you know, but who you know.

Jobriath’s team knew everybody and he still flopped.

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But was he inspiring the masses by kicking his disability's ass? No?

Spoiler: But Russiath is!

 

[Constellationzero]

I think my favourite bit of Pipsqueak’s stardom aspirations is that he wants to get into the teeny bop, pop market.

He’s about 15 years too old to break into that sector. He’s not a cute lil Justin Beiber who all the tweens can picture as their boyfriend and he’s not a hot young girl the tweens want to be.

Add that he looks a good ten years older than he really is on a good day and even if he was fantastic, he’s just going to come over as cringe. It’s like your dad showing up to the school disco.

He’s so totally oblivious to how he comes across in every area of his life and this is just another example of Russ proving himself to be King of Cringe.

And THAT is why Dora Hall is such an apt comparison. She dead ass sang (and fucked up) Top Tune! pop hits of the time, and it had me asking my wife: What's next? If Dora Hall were still alive, would she be doing Norwegian Black Death Metal? Louisiana Bounce? Drill? Speed Metal? Christ, I just cannot fathom someone like this singing (trying??) Mr. Ghetto's Walmart.

Anyway... take another sample of female Russell Greer. I swear God really must've yeeted her back to Wyoming into the Greer house for punishment or redemption...

 

[Butters scotch]

Thing is, Jobriath WAS talented. A lot of people thought so, and he had a classical upbringing and wrote a lot of his own stuff.

Even with genuine talent, “connections” can’t force the world to like you.

The guys downfall was opening with "I am the true fairy of rock."

Great article here on him: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/mar/28/jobriath-marc-almond (ignore it's the Guardian)

 

[AbraCadaver]

But was he inspiring the masses by kicking his disability's ass? No?

Spoiler: But Russiath is!

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Hamster I love u and have great respect for your sick lifting regimen but if you show me anything this terrible again I will fly to your country and force-feed you a brick in minecraft.

 

[The Un-Clit]

The guys downfall was opening with "I am the true fairy of rock."

Great article here on him: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/mar/28/jobriath-marc-almond (ignore it's the Guardian)

Literally never heard of the man before this either. That opening is a sure way (especially in the early 1970s) to be the main reason why. Holy shit, way to misread the audience! He would have had a much better chance closer to 1980 (and have been a contemporary of article writer Marc Almond, ironically enough. Yes I am a massive Soft Cell fan) with that kind of style, but it is what it is. History of music is littered with the corpses of talented neverbeens.

 

[Hamsteroid]

Hamster I love u and have great respect for your sick lifting regimen but if you show me anything this terrible again I will fly to your country and force-feed you a brick in minecraft.

Spoiler: Why do you hate the disabled?

 

[The Great Citracett]

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

"Looks doesn't matter"

Did Russ make that meme?