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Chinese scientist 'filed patent for a COVID vaccine in February 2020'

Yusen Zhou, who worked for the People's Liberation Army (PLA), lodged the paperwork on behalf of the Chinese political party on February 24 2020, according to The Australian newspaper.

t.co

https://archive.md/EKZgV

What the ever living fuck have I been saying the whole damn time? The fuckers played this so well!

I'll catch up eventually...

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Lots of hospital deaths will have PCR tests run post mortem. The hospitals have massive financial incentives to record Covid deaths. Now I'm not saying they're running 40 plus cycles (that would show an apple as Covid positive) but I'm not not saying they're running 40 plus cycles.

One of these things are not like the other:

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I don't know if the following bitchuter named Jim Crenshaw have his own KF thread but he posted this video in honor of the mothers who died from Corona-chan vaccine. He didn't specify if it's the J&J, AZ, Moderna or Pzifer.

In Honor Of The Mothers Who Have Died Due To Fake Covid Vaccines

Thousands of children have lost a parent over his madness

www.bitchute.com

 

[Salubrious]

Lots of hospital deaths will have PCR tests run post mortem. The hospitals have massive financial incentives to record Covid deaths. Now I'm not saying they're running 40 plus cycles (that would show an apple as Covid positive) but I'm not not saying they're running 40 plus cycles.

I love that people now think that saying that maybe Pfizer and J&J have financial incentives to push vaccines as "conspiracy theories.". I like that now Big Pharma is a bastion of magnanimity in this world.

What the ever living fuck have I been saying the whole damn time? The fuckers played this so well!

I'll catch up eventually...

There was a story I'll have to link later, but something insane is happening on China where a different Chinese billionaire is dying every 40 days. Edit: 72 dead in 8 years.

According to China Daily, 15 were murdered, 17 committed suicide, seven died from accidents and 19 died from illness. Oh, yes, and 14 were executed. (Welcome to China.)

Double edit: Holy shit, I just realized that this article is ten years old. It's probably even worse now. One guy got executed last month.

Friends Don't Let Friends Become Chinese Billionaires

The life expectancy of a Chinese billionaire isn't pretty; one dies every 40 days.

www.forbes.com

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

CDC: heart inflammation cases in ages 16-24 higher than expected after mRNA COVID-19 shots​

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cd...than-expected-after-mrna-covid-19-2021-06-10/ (https://archive.ph/7woZF)
Excerpt:

Preliminary findings from two vaccine safety monitoring systems suggest a higher-than-expected number of cases of heart inflammation after the second dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in 16 to 24 year olds, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Thursday.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/05/anti-vaccination-germany-anti-semitism/618777/ (https://archive.ph/Ras7V)

I love that people now think that saying that maybe Pfizer and J&J have financial incentives to push vaccines as "conspiracy theories.". I like that now Big Pharma is a bastion of magnanimity in this world.

Drug companies have the health and wellbeing of people as their #1 priority, not profit. You must be some kind of illiterate, redneck Trump supporter if you deny that .

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Tinfoil hat time, what if Covid 19 was manufactured and released into the world intentionally. Then the governments incentivize hospitals to misreport hospital deaths as "Covid" Related to cause fear and panic. Then a brand new vaccine test is created and dangled like a carrot in front of people enticing more and more fear filled people to get the vaccine. Now you have a global test of mRNA technology.

 

[Bosmadden]

Fauci help create AIDS and blamed it on an animal, much like he helped creating Covid-19 and blamed it on an animal.

If you really want to have nightmares go read up on the history of the public health response to HIV, of which Fauci was a central player.

Knowingly allowing contaminated blood to be circulated in the health system, leading to the deaths of thousands of people

Blood money: Bayer's inventory of HIV-contaminated blood products and third world hemophiliacs - PubMed

This article presents an overlooked case of research misconduct and violations of basic principles of medical and business ethics. When Bayer's Cutter Laboratories realized that their blood products, Factor VIII and IX or antihemophiliac factor (AHF), were contaminated with human...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Deliberately leaving the San Francisco bath houses open when they knew they were the primary vectors

The San Francisco bathhouse battles of 1984: civil liberties, AIDS risk, and shifts in health policy - PubMed

In the mid-1980s, controversy emerged in a number of American cities over the roles gay bathhouses and sex clubs might play in the spread of AIDS, and in raising safe-sex awareness. In 1984, San Francisco became the first city where political debates broke out over AIDS-related policies for...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The AZT scandal, a toxic poison touted as a magical cure for HIV that ended up killing tens of thousands. The drug that brought in billions for it's maker when given a rushed approval from the FDA (sound familiar?)

AIDS and the AZT Scandal: Spin's 1989 Feature, 'Sins of Omission'

At the end of 1989, two years after we had started the highly controversial AIDS column in SPIN, we published an article by Celia Farber called "Sins of

www.spin.com

Through all this Fauci was there, lying his ass off and making terrible decisions that ended up turning a virus that should have been trivially easy to control into a massive global disaster that has killed tens of millions

I was a little kid in the eighties but I remember well the non stop doom porn that straights and normies would be dying in droves from AIDS. You see the homos didn't want to hear that having unprotected ass sex was killing them, plus the government wanted to scare the shit out of the population.

So there you have it. A virus that is only dangerous to a small section of the population being used to sew fear and paranoia onto the masses for the benefit of greedy immoral drug companies and power mad politicians.

Turns out Covid really is airborne AIDS after all.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I wonder how long before the leftist who wrote a op-ed to the Guardian will be fired? American Thinker had posted a good blog about it. https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...e_itself_not_trump_is_culpable_for_covid.html

https://archive.ph/8qeES

June 10, 2021

From the left, a chilling realization that science itself (not Trump) is culpable for COVID​

By Mike Landry

Somehow, a concept formerly known as a conspiracy theory is generally being accepted as fact.
Even the Facebook Ministry of Truth has given it some acknowledgment, reprogramming its robotic detectors of wrongthink to lighten up a bit on the censorship.
The fact is related to a recent article in the famously left-wing Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists suggesting what you probably know by now: apparently, the coronavirus was human-engineered and somehow got out of the research lab in Wuhan, China. Potentially deadly viruses tinkered with at the Wuhan Institute of Virology had containment protocols no greater than those of a standard dentist's office, the article says.
While Democrat legacy media, for the most part, are downplaying emails linking Dr. Anthony Fauci to the Wuhan institute and the worldwide tragedy that followed, Thomas Frank, a former Wall Street Journal editorial page writer of an oddly left but independent bent, in a piece for the left-wing Guardian, describes recent events in ways similar to the shattering of a religious faith.

There was a time when the Covid pandemic seemed to confirm so many of our assumptions. It cast down the people we regarded as villains. It raised up those we thought were heroes. It prospered people who could shift easily to working from home even as it problematized the lives of those Trump voters living in the old economy.
Like all plagues, Covid often felt like the hand of God on earth, scourging the people for their sins against higher learning and visibly sorting the righteous from the unmasked wicked. "Respect science," admonished our yard signs. And lo!, Covid came and forced us to do so, elevating our scientists to the highest seats of social authority, from where they banned assembly, commerce, and all the rest.

Frank's assessment of the left's view that this is The Way Things Are Supposed Be found itself punctured by the news of the Wuhan lab foul-up. Frank was just being the messenger in this case, but he reported the thinking of the left well.
Instead of the "populism" of the despised Trump and company destroying the world through their ignorance and foolishness, Frank writes of this realization with a shiver: "What if science itself is in some way culpable for all of this?"
And, as the 2008 international financial crisis undercut faith in capitalism and globalism, Frank is concerned that millions will join him in questioning their allegiance to science and to leftist causes in general.

In reaction to the fool Trump, liberalism made a sort of cult out of science, expertise, the university system, executive-branch "norms," the "intelligence community," the State Department, NGOs, the legacy news media, and the hierarchy of credentialed achievement in general.
Now here we are in the waning days of Disastrous Global Crisis #2. Covid is of course worse by many orders of magnitude than the mortgage meltdown — it has killed millions and ruined lives and disrupted the world economy far more extensively. Should it turn out that scientists and experts and NGOs, etc. are villains rather than heroes of this story, we may very well see the expert-worshiping values of modern liberalism go up in a fireball of public anger.

 

[Local Fed]

Province of Manitoba | News Releases | Manitoba Launches New, Secure Immunization Cards for Fully Vaccinated People

Province of Manitoba

news.gov.mb.ca

MANITOBA LAUNCHES NEW, SECURE IMMUNIZATION CARDS FOR FULLY VACCINATED PEOPLE​

Fully immunized Manitobans will now be able to travel without having to self-isolate for two weeks upon return with a new, secure immunization card that will be available to people two weeks after they have received both doses of a COVID-19 vaccine, Premier Brian Pallister announced today.

“Many Manitobans have rolled up their sleeves over these past few months and done their part in protecting our province, and I want to commend them for doing so,” said Pallister. “Manitobans have told us that getting back to the things they love and miss is one of the biggest incentives to getting vaccinated. As a government, we are doing everything we can to bolster vaccine availability and accessibility, and equipping Manitobans with the information and support they need to make the right decision to protect themselves, their loved ones and their community.”

The premier noted that inter-provincial travel without being required to self-isolate on the return to Manitoba is one of the first benefits from being fully immunized. In addition, Manitoba health-care facilities, including hospitals and personal care homes, will permit expanded visitation if both the patient/resident and visitor are fully vaccinated. This benefit is expected to be extended to health-care facility visitation in the coming week. Individuals also will continue to be exempt from self-isolation if they are an identified close contact of a COVID-19 case if they are fully vaccinated, with direction provided from public health officials. Additional benefits are expected to be added in the coming weeks.

To be eligible to receive an immunization card, Manitobans must:
• have a Manitoba health card;
• have received two doses of a vaccine; and
• wait 14 days after getting the second dose of vaccine, so it can take full effect.

The premier noted the process to order a new immunization card is quick, simple and secure. Two weeks after receiving a second dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, Manitobans may apply for the card using the new online portal at https://immunizationcard.manitoba.ca/.

The digital and physical cards contain no personal health information or data. Rather, the cards only show the person’s first and last names and a QR code. When scanned, the QR code will show the person is fully vaccinated.

Once someone has successfully completed the online request, they will automatically receive access to a digital card. There is also an option to request a physical card that will be mailed to the address on the applicant’s Manitoba health card. If a physical card is requested, it can be expected in the mail within 14 days.

People who would like to request their card but do not have internet access can contact the insured benefits branch of Manitoba Health and Seniors Care at 204-786-7101 or 1-800-392-1207 (toll-free) to request a card. Individuals are encouraged to seek assistance from family and friends before contacting the province.

“We are all eager to be able to travel, visit family and friends, and enjoy the many freedoms we have taken for granted and missed these many months,” said Pallister. “Getting vaccinated and following public health orders to protect each other and our health-care system is the fastest way to save our summer and get back to doing some of the things we love and see the people we miss.”

The new card provides proof of immunization status only. Other details, such as dates of immunization and the type of vaccine received are part of an individual’s COVID-19 immunization record, which is also available online at https://manitoba.ca/covid19/vaccine/immunization-record.html.

For more information or to apply for a secure immunization card, visit:
https://immunizationcard.manitoba.ca/.

​

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Province of Manitoba | News Releases | Manitoba Launches New, Secure Immunization Cards for Fully Vaccinated People

Province of Manitoba

news.gov.mb.ca

How secure these cards are? I guess they aren't prepared for hackers who'll attack this.

 

[Billy Beer]

Tinfoil hat time, what if Covid 19 was manufactured and released into the world intentionally. Then the governments incentivize hospitals to misreport hospital deaths as "Covid" Related to cause fear and panic. Then a brand new vaccine test is created and dangled like a carrot in front of people enticing more and more fear filled people to get the vaccine. Now you have a global test of mRNA technology.

You don't need the tinfoil for that. The scenario you described is what is exactly what is happening.

Every race, gender, age, sub-race and genetic mix you can think of, have now been vaccinated. Invaluable data cross-referenced with the big tech internet companies, who scour for buzzwords and trample out any information too valuable

 

[No. 7 cat]

Gee, they seem to share something in common.

(((Hmmm)))

 

[Bosmadden]

Tinfoil hat time, what if Covid 19 was manufactured and released into the world intentionally. Then the governments incentivize hospitals to misreport hospital deaths as "Covid" Related to cause fear and panic. Then a brand new vaccine test is created and dangled like a carrot in front of people enticing more and more fear filled people to get the vaccine. Now you have a global test of mRNA technology.

I was wondering the other day about the crass stupidity of journalists who swallowed whole the ludicrous bat theory.

We all know it, I mean there's been a ton of movies made showing it so it must be true and based on SCIENCE yeah? If it can make zombies it can cause Covid surely?

Rando is hiking through China and gets bit by a bat, he develops a coof and passes it on.

Rando bat bites a Pangolin, said Pangolin is taken to a wet market (because the Chinks will eat literally anything) shoppers get the coof from the meat or the Pangolin coughs on them, and they pass it on.

Except this is utter nonsense.

Zoonotic viruses cannot spread like this. Zoonotic viruses need constant and repeated cross species infection and re-infection until they're eventually challenged to mutate into something contagious.

This is why Zoonotic viruses only ever become contagious when human beings live/work constantly next to animal populations. In other words Zoonotic viruses can only develop among domesticated animal populations.

This is how the Spanish flu got going. This is how the swine flu from a decade ago started. Even then these types of outbreaks are incredibly rare and have only been proven to occur with the flu virus (which is highly mutable).

The wilding theory of Zoonotic transmission of Coronaviruses is a blatant lie and always was. The only Coronavirus that has ever proven to be Zoonotic is MERS, which came from domestic camels. Even though it has likely been infecting and re-infecting humans for decades it's still not mutated to be contagious,. SARS was likely leaked from a lab and Covid definitely was. No other explanation makes sense.

The whole reason gain of function research is required in animal Coronaviruses is because it's impossible to find one that will naturally infect human to human. For sure these fuckers made this virus.

Province of Manitoba | News Releases | Manitoba Launches New, Secure Immunization Cards for Fully Vaccinated People

Province of Manitoba

news.gov.mb.ca

Not to worry. I'm sure those politicians will drop the whole 'show us your papers' stuff when the Covid pandemic is done. We can trust them.

On a more optimistic note the UK government has scrapped the idea of Covid passports, although they deny it has anything to do with tens of thousands of people marching through London telling them to get fucked. Pure coincidence.

Also the Feds have stated they won't be mandating vaccines among public workers. In fact they've decided to ban even asking them if they've been vaccinated. I wonder how many top level officials told the Biden administration that although they were happy for the plebs to get their shots no one was coming near their precious asses with that poison? It kind of leaves private companies, who've been virtue signaling and demanding their staff get the jab, hanging out to dry though.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

You don't need the tinfoil for that. The scenario you described is what is exactly what is happening.

Every race, gender, age, sub-race and genetic mix you can think of, have now been vaccinated. Invaluable data cross-referenced with the big tech internet companies, who scour for buzzwords and trample out any information too valuable

That is my thinking's as well. However, I prefer to maintain a realm of speculation rather than definitive; I don't know for sure. However, it is pretty convenient, I'm curious to know how many pandemics have presidents had to deal with during their time. Obama, stacked up quite a few pandemics and also restarted research into the very same technology that made Covid-19, right before he left his position and also relocated the research to China.

 

[Billy Beer]

That is my thinking's as well. However, I prefer to maintain a realm of speculation rather than definitive; I don't know for sure. However, it is pretty convenient, I'm curious to know how many pandemics have presidents had to deal with during their time. Obama, stacked up quite a few pandemics and also restarted research into the very same technology that made Covid-19, right before he left his position and also relocated the research to China.

In my tinfoil-addled brain i see 3 outcomes that aren't just simple greed.

1) A test of mRNA on the global population.

2) An early accidental leak of a virus that was going to be used/developed further for some end. Possibly mRNA test

3) The 'research' moving to china was a backdoor in to having the earliest access to information, just in case those sneaky chinks tried to bioweapon us. Billy Gates was on hand to offer the software which would be used (as has been before) to gain access to hard-drives etc at Wuhan. Early information was that COVID was going to be used in conjunction with another agent/virus to release a bioweapon on the world. The 'pandemic' in its' current form was the lesser of two evils.

 

[Bosmadden]

That is my thinking's as well. However, I prefer to maintain a realm of speculation rather than definitive; I don't know for sure. However, it is pretty convenient, I'm curious to know how many pandemics have presidents had to deal with during their time. Obama, stacked up quite a few pandemics and also restarted research into the very same technology that made Covid-19, right before he left his position and also relocated the research to China.

Obama banned gain of function research in 2014, ostensibly because it was considered too dangerous. But of course that's not the reason he banned it. We know this because at the same time he was funneling tens of millions to a People's Liberation Army bio weapons lab to to do the exact same research.

There's only two justifications for this type of research.

The first is if you have found a wild virus that you think might end up becoming contagious in humans and you want to find a vaccine before a pandemic develops. As I mentioned Coronaviruses have been traditionally considered poor candidates as they're simply not mutable enough and efforts have usually gone into identifying flu strains in domestic animal populations. That all changed after SARS. But even if we assume they were looking to stop the next SARS outbreak that doesn't explain why they were so keen to offshore the research to a military run lab controlled by a communist dictatorship.

The second reason you would do gain of function research is to develop a bio weapon. Coronaviruses are excellent candidates in this regard. They're highly contagious once human to human transmission is established and they're impossible to vaccinate against.

So I guess we'll have to guess which one is more likely.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

A lot of us disagree about the COVID vaccines and various aspects of that. But can we all find some common ground in regards to the vaccination lotteries?

Between the sheer waste of money (that magically appeared) and the painfully cringe presentation of the drawings, the vaccination lottery stuff is one of the most absurdist, dystopian things I never thought I would see in the real world. Something about them is fucked up at a level I never really considered before and it is disturbing.

Vaccine Lotteries in fiction:

So few vaccines for the extremely lethal disease and not enough life-saving miracle vaccines going around that authorities have to draw names out of a hat to fairly distribute the high-demand vaccines.

Vaccine Lotteries in reality:

Virus is so fucking weak and nobody really cares to take some sketchy, rushed vaccines so government has to attempt to bribe everyone into getting vaccinated.

I was wondering the other day about the crass stupidity of journalists who swallowed whole the ludicrous bat theory.

We all know it, I mean there's been a ton of movies made showing it so it must be true and based on SCIENCE yeah? If it can make zombies it can cause Covid surely?

Rando is hiking through China and gets bit by a bat, he develops a coof and passes it on.

Rando bat bites a Pangolin, said Pangolin is taken to a wet market (because the Chinks will eat literally anything) shoppers get the coof from the meat or the Pangolin coughs on them, and they pass it on.

Except this is utter nonsense.

Zoonotic viruses cannot spread like this. Zoonotic viruses need constant and repeated cross species infection and re-infection until they're eventually challenged to mutate into something contagious.

This is why Zoonotic viruses only ever become contagious when human beings live/work constantly next to animal populations. In other words Zoonotic viruses can only develop among domesticated animal populations.

This is how the Spanish flu got going. This is how the swine flu from a decade ago started. Even then these types of outbreaks are incredibly rare and have only been proven to occur with the flu virus (which is highly mutable).

The wilding theory of Zoonotic transmission of Coronaviruses is a blatant lie and always was. The only Coronavirus that has ever proven to be Zoonotic is MERS, which came from domestic camels. Even though it has likely been infecting and re-infecting humans for decades it's still not mutated to be contagious,. SARS was likely leaked from a lab and Covid definitely was. No other explanation makes sense.

The whole reason gain of function research is required in animal Coronaviruses is because it's impossible to find one that will naturally infect human to human. For sure these fuckers made this virus.

This isn't entirely true.

1) Virus can jump species-to-species, dependent on their mode of infection. Ranavirus FV3 was originally endemic to North American frogs, but since its spread thanks to pet trade, commercial plant trade & other incidental transportation of amphibians, reptiles or fish it's become almost pan-global.
Pretty much if you are cold-blooded and live in or near water (or in wet environments) you are a potential vector of FV3, species, genus, family, even order be damned. Its certainly not unheard of for multiple-genera/family mammalian viruses (e.g. enteroviruses) to exist.
(Now of course other foreign species/strains of ranavirus are also causing epidemics among North American fish/amphians & reptiles)

2) Chinese poachers walking into caves filled with (literal) bat shit and netting bats by the dozen, year in, year out is certainly playing a long term game of zoonotic roulette. Now ask yourself if you really think every Chinese poacher is going to wash his feet after walking through bat shit and his hands after scooping up bats to sell to his fellow Chinamen?

You're right, its not some fear-porn domino effect where it only takes 1 random bat dropping that just so happens to land in a pig sty and the pig just so happens to be undercooked then bam pandemic begins. Nor is it some Spiderman-tier shit where it only takes 1 guy getting nipped by a sick bat (unless of course the disease is rabies).

I don't disagree that the virus probably came from a lab, I just wanted to clarify that some viruses can very easily jump species and that China has both a chronic poaching problem and a sanitation problem, making zoonotic transfer much more possible than what you described.

 

[FatalTater]

Today I went to the doctor for non-covid reasons. We were talking about the Coof (I brought it up,not her) and she said she had it back in the fall of 2018, and confirmed that they were seeing cases of it as far back as that.

If it's been around since 2018, ...um.

WTF the reaction in 2020? Saying it was new? Saying it was super-contagious and deadly when if that was the case bodies would have been piling up for two years by then!

I am tired.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Today I went to the doctor for non-covid reasons. We were talking about the Coof (I brought it up,not her) and she said she had it back in the fall of 2018, and confirmed that they were seeing cases of it as far back as that.

If it's been around since 2018, ...um.

WTF the reaction in 2020? Saying it was new? Saying it was super-contagious and deadly when if that was the case bodies would have been piling up for two years by then!

I am tired.

Weird if true!

 

[Bosmadden]

This isn't entirely true.

1) Virus can jump species-to-species, dependent on their mode of infection. Ranavirus FV3 was originally endemic to North American frogs, but since its spread thanks to pet trade, commercial plant trade & other incidental transportation of amphibians, reptiles or fish it's become almost pan-global.
Pretty much if you are cold-blooded and live in or near water (or in wet environments) you are a potential vector of FV3, species, genus, family, even order be damned. Its certainly not unheard of for multiple-genera/family mammalian viruses (e.g. enteroviruses) to exist.
(Now of course other foreign species/strains of ranavirus are also causing epidemics among North American fish/amphians & reptiles)

2) Chinese poachers walking into caves filled with (literal) bat shit and netting bats by the dozen, year in, year out is certainly playing a long term game of zoonotic roulette. Now ask yourself if you really think every Chinese poacher is going to wash his feet after walking through bat shit and his hands after scooping up bats to sell to his fellow Chinamen?

You're right, its not some fear-porn domino effect where it only takes 1 random bat dropping that just so happens to land in a pig sty and the pig just so happens to be undercooked then bam pandemic begins. Nor is it some Spiderman-tier shit where it only takes 1 guy getting nipped by a sick bat (unless of course the disease is rabies).

I don't disagree that the virus probably came from a lab, I just wanted to clarify that some viruses can very easily jump species and that China has both a chronic poaching problem and a sanitation problem, making zoonotic transfer much more possible than what you described.

The miners in Mojiang, who caught the bat Coronavirus (from breathing in guano) definitely contracted a Zoonotic virus. Of course it's possible for humans to contract zoonotic viruses when exposed to enormous viral loads, but we also know with a certainty that in this instance the virus was not transmissible human to human. How do we know this? Because when the virus was isolated it was deemed necessary to carry out a decade long gain of function research program to make it transmissible human to human.

The scientists who conducted the research could not have considered the bat virus to be a potential SARS 2 candidate. So why do the research? To look for a vaccine? Sure lol.

TLDR the issue is not whether viruses can 'jump species'. The actual issue is twofold. First can a constant cycle of infection and re-infection be established between humans and a host wild animal population that will allow a sufficient degree of adaptation to occur that will cause human to human viral transmission? Secondly are coronaviruses, given their relatively low mutability, able to jump this hurdle? I'd say it's wildly unlikely if not impossible.

Zoonotic viruses causing endemic disease is rare and it has been shown historically to only occur in very particular circumstances. Large populations of mammals living cheek by jowl alongside their human keepers. The virus jumps from animal to people, and from people back to animal, hundreds if not thousands of times. Eventually, if the virus is mutable enough, it becomes really fucking good at infecting human cells, and we're off to the races. This is never a sudden event, it's a methodical and slow process with a breakout event when a particular mutation hits a sweet spot.

Edit to add: we can establish that bats can infect humans but to prove the zoonotic origins of Covid we also need to establish how humans are re-infecting bats? Are they taking giant dumps in the bat caves so the poor critters are breathing in Chink poo? Are miners keeping bats as pets in their homes and then releasing them back into the wild? You see how ridiculous the wilding theory of SARS and Covid is? Yes it's that fucking retarded.