Let me clarify a few things.
I worry about me first.
Then comes my family and neighbors (who belong to many groups)
Then come strangers I have no personal investment in (who belong to even more groups)
And so I make choices based on what I feel will allow the greatest amount of freedom and security for myself and them, in that order (me first).
This is a pretty traditional way of seeing things. It has a bit if american flavour, which is fine.
Your drunk rant is pretty sensible and I generally agree with it. It mirrors my views to an extend.
How does it explain that there is not much difference between feminism and traditionalism?
But tell me more about how I am incapable of looking beyond myself, you stupid piece of shit tool. Based on... well, what you've put before me, I'm guessing you want to put the burden of these injustices on the shoulders of the "niggos".
You asked me to correct if wrong, so I will. I use a similar degrees of proportion system as you use for who you care about.
If there is a cycle of violence between two groups, between black people and cops as you put it, then it makes sense to assign blame in proportion to who's responsible for them.
I agree with the perspective that cops will develop bias and I think asimilar system is at play in reverse. There is no shortage of black people that teach their kids that cops are dangerous. There is no shortage of black people that were killed by cops. Whether it was justified defense means little to family and community as we've seen repeated, so at least in the minds of the black people that can't see beyond this, the ACAB bias is a sensible response.
And as you rightly point out, the black cops are the unexamined part of this cycle. Things get hairy when you discover the fact that black cops are much more likely to shoot at people (black or otherwise) than white or other races do. Just find the stats and confirm for yourself. Don't take it from me or a journalist.
So yes, I consider a large part of the blame on the people responsible for doing the crimes, whether they are cops, blacks, christians, gays whatever.
It leaves enough blame to be assigned to a group that has been exerbating these problems through sociologists, culture critics and media.
And yes, I have no problem with blaming a group to some degree when they're disproportionally involved in something. Same goes for feminists and traditionalists.
Now, to you these groups are the same, albeit with a twist.
Why don't you explain that? Is "they both want social control" the best that you can do? What do they want to do with that social control? What have their groups done in the past when they had social control?
Or is there some other reason why you are under the delusion that these groups are comparable?
It was a good drunk rant by
@VIVIIXI . I see I still had it in my cache and have reposted his rant here:
(I'm drunk and bored, so I'm going to respond to this. Someone hold my beer.)
And it only appears that way to people who have no regard for anything larger than their own group (which always serves themselves).
Let me clarify a few things.
I worry about me first.
Then comes my family and neighbors (who belong to many groups)
Then come strangers I have no personal investment in (who belong to even more groups)
And so I make choices based on what I feel will allow the greatest amount of freedom and security for myself and them, in that order (me first).
I resolve the shame I will feel for turning my back on them in that order.
It is the same as deciding who gets to live and who dies in a life-raft scenario.
But...
I make my personal sacrifices in whichever order I please, which is usually what I feel will have the longest lasting benefits for the bigger picture because I am able to consider the interplay of these various factions. If my family must perish from the Earth to preserve the Earth, then so be it. I'll fight that tooth and nail, but in the end the stark preservation of life takes precedence
Period.
And those cops who don't experience that on a personal level are given actual statistics, so even they develop a soft bias at best based upon empirical truth.
So who do we blame?
The cops who risk their lives, deal with the violence daily and pull the trigger in a moment of fear, or the blacks who are trapped in a cycle of poverty and violence that gets reinforced by activists who burn down their homes and businesses and get shot by scared cops going on instincts formed by personal experience?
How do we end this hideous karmic cycle of pain?
Me?
I voted Trump.
Pense had a bad reputation regarding das homos, which is against my own self-interest.
I love my neighbors.
I love my nieces and nephews
I want a better world for them, even if it means risking putting legal power in the hands of someone reputed to hate me.
I'll make that sacrifice, if it brings us one step closer to a world where people don't have to feel ashamed of their skin color one way or another. And I'm not willing to throw stones mindlessly at two groups of people who are trapped in a cycle that can't end until both come to the table and deal with how they each contribute to a horribly complicated problem.
But tell me more about how I am incapable of looking beyond myself, you stupid piece of shit tool. Based on... well, what you've put before me, I'm guessing you want to put the burden of these injustices on the shoulders of the "niggos".
Call it a hunch.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Fortunately, neither you nor the shitstain activists have managed to make me regret that decision... but you really are trying my patience. Pense, for what it's worth, has not betrayed my leap of faith. Trump, being an equal opportunist, never gave me a reason to think that the place I stick my genitals was an issue to begin with.
And in that regard, I have served myself.
Regret is one of the worst pains one can endure, for it lasts a lifetime.
To date, I have no regrets in how I chose to vote.
Neither of them has given me enough reason to regret my vote.
Betsy Devoes fought for due process on college campuses, which has stopped a witch hunt that had a hideous impact on black men trying to escape that poverty. In the beginning of Trump's presidency, employment improved for everyone, including the black community.
In time, with these small nudges, the American black community may escape the cycle of poverty and violence that causes the aforementioned hideous cycle. Should that happen, cops will be able to do their jobs without cries of racism at the drop of a hat, and my nephews will be free from an environment that encourages them to crucify themselves because of the light color of thier skin. My friend Courtney, who earned my love in ways I can't emphasize enough, won't have to worry about her children being shot by scared cops.
I have chosen a long view that allows me to love my kin (by virtue of being kin) and neighbors (who have earned my love through their own good works).
But please, feel free to tell me about how I am incapable of making decisions beyond myself because I don't put a single group of people before my own selfish avoidance of regret. Tell me about how I am incapable anything simpler than lazy solutions akin to every dipshit despot from Hitler to Pol Pot, because I acknowledge that people like you crave nothing more than social power and are ultimately all the same in your desperate cloying attempts to acquire said power through the singular groups you promote, rather than making subtle brush strokes on a masterpiece slowly moving towards something that will hopefully be better than it was before.
Your move, asshole.
