General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

I feel like staining some pixels on everyones' monitors with my shitty thoughts and opinions since it's all the rage.

Coco is Coco and Kson isn't Coco. Kson is not a shitposting dragon of Hololive. Coco is. And in a month she'll be gone.

Holos are very talented streaming solo but the collab part is very important. Girls playing off each other, different generations having different dynamics, big production events and many other things make hololive experience what people came to like. A whole damn lot.
Coco had a lot of influence on her fellow coworkers. Feels like she gave them courage to express themselves more freely than they would have otherwise. And so far it worked wonders. Especially in capturing non-JP audience, since we are not that particular about idol stuff. On the contrary. She rarely went out her way to speak a lot of English in parallel to her Japanese, like Kiara(who might not have even existed if it weren't for Coco), but that was more than enough to attract a huge fucking audience and pave way for HoloEN. She can't take all credit for this, since a lot of other talents decided to pander to us. But then again, who was the most probable inspiration for JP girls to do so?

I wonder why Cover was so stubborn about putting limits on one of their most successful talent. I imagine if she were with Anycolor things would have been very different. And possibly Nijisanji wouldn't be lagging behind Hololive in English-speaking audience. Possibly even surpassing them.
But alas, we live in a timeline where mentioning a country can lead to such tragic and bullshit series of events that can grind up even the strongest individuals.

I wish the dumbest and most uncalled for china thing didn't happen and maybe Coco would have had enough spunk to stream for a year or two longer despite management trying to restrict her.

This month and probably a month after will be pretty hard. Watching Coco stream without counting days when she's gone forever is impossible.

Best of luck to her, and obviously keeping tabs on her general happenings will be a cinch solely due to a couple of individuals keeping everyone posted here. Unless this thread finally meets its doom at some point.

P.S. Frankly, I can't say I care much about watching chuubas' roommates. Kinda beats the whole purpose and charm of Vtubing. Without avatar girls aren't any different from your run of the mill twitch thots.
If you care about chuubas' roommates beyond sating your curiosity you are doing chuubas wrong.

She can still collab with a ton of indies, no problem. Hell, with her style, she can easily do stuff with VShojo and the others.

The main point is, she was successful to begin with because she's hardworking and did shit nobody else even thought about doing. That plus full creative freedom makes it easier for her to take off on her own. Her identity was also an open secret since forever.
 
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I feel like Youtube definitely played role for Cover to become what it is now . Almost every member in the first three generations had been blasted by demonetization one way or the other. I think Cover originally hired Coco exactly because they were looking for ways to be innovative and she was right up their Alley.
But it is apparent that they had slowly became more conservative over the time. Maybe it's because all the previous shit storm got them paranoid or their core value changed after having expanded so significantly. But unfortunately for Coco, their new approach is no longer suitable for talents like her.
Youtube, as is right now, would've never taken off to begin with. They're the guys demonetizing people for saying a swear word for a split second on a stream while putting crappy porn site tier ads everywhere, the same ones with a wild ass banhammer hitting talented creators because lol while making a cut from those very people's earnings, which won't be a thing to begin with if they fucking banned for no reason.

Not to mention that Youtube Premium is fucking useless if your tech skills ain't on the tier of a literal granny who doesn't know how to turn her computer on. Downloading videos, no ads, all that shit is literally worthless if you know the right extensions and websites to do those things.

I dont want to take away from your schizo postings, but Takomee game has been decided.

It's fucking Clubhouse. Of all the games they coulda played together, they went with the most boring one
Even the logo looks boring lol, but it'll be fun to see the lame pun octopus girl with the cute voice and the energetic crackhead dinosaur fucking around for a while
 
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Youtube, as is right now, would've never taken off to begin with. They're the guys demonetizing people for saying a swear word for a split second on a stream while putting crappy porn site tier ads everywhere, the same ones with a wild ass banhammer hitting talented creators because lol while making a cut from those very people's earnings, which won't be a thing to begin with if they fucking banned for no reason.

Not to mention that Youtube Premium is fucking useless if your tech skills ain't on the tier of a literal granny who doesn't know how to turn her computer on. Downloading videos, no ads, all that shit is literally worthless if you know the right extensions and websites to do those things.
Yep YouTube used to be for the Creators but now it's about big businesses like Viacom to upload their own content that takes up half of the trending page.
 
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Youtube unironically recommending this fucking mongrel to me. Gets a million views in a single day by riding on the outrage train. Please dont tell me this is the same Poka faggot that was around a while ago, i swear i remember that profile pic.
Also found this in a /vt/ thread, was pretty funny.
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Yep YouTube used to be for the Creators but now it's about big businesses like Viacom to upload their own content that takes up half of the trending page.
All that while there are channels streaming copyrighted stuff left and right without issues lmao - not even the Family Guy funny moments ones, I'm talking about literal 24/7 streams of shows and such. They're so bad at managing their own turf that it's hilarious

Youtube unironically recommending this fucking mongrel to me. Gets a million views in a single day by riding on the outrage train. Please dont tell me this is the same Poka faggot that was around a while ago, i swear i remember that profile pic.View attachment 2250380
Also found this in a /vt/ thread, was pretty funny.
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They striked a clipper for posting a single clip comparing Gura to a certain someone while this guy is floating around just fine. Go figure
 
Youtube unironically recommending this fucking mongrel to me. Gets a million views in a single day by riding on the outrage train. Please dont tell me this is the same Poka faggot that was around a while ago, i swear i remember that profile pic.
Also found this in a /vt/ thread, was pretty funny.
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Remember. He posts this yesterday......

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What a fucking loser. I bet he recount the already debunked Narukami and other bullshit anyways. Peak originality at work.
 
Youtube unironically recommending this fucking mongrel to me. Gets a million views in a single day by riding on the outrage train. Please dont tell me this is the same Poka faggot that was around a while ago, i swear i remember that profile pic.
Also found this in a /vt/ thread, was pretty funny.
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Edit: Woops, should have read back properly, turn out I am late
Knowing the nips, Cover should avoid making the same mistake as Kyoani and should leave the fire exits open.
 
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Coco might just go on to stream as kson with the same vibe and energy for the most part but I don't see any of the other JP girls being able to do the same.
People like pekora marine and korone come to mind in that they are able to maintain this energy and persona only by hiding behind the vtuber Avatar. I don't see them carrying the same intensity if they stream with a facecam. And I don't think any of us would be interested in watching them doing neck down streams either
I mean, Pekora used to do neckdown streams on NicoNico and she's more blessed than her avatar in that department. I agree though, the charm is lost with the facecam. I don't need to stare at a streamer's face/body to enjoy their content, no matter how attractive they might be.

Think I'm gonna check out of this thread again 'cuz y'all's doomerposting is starting to get a bit much. I get it; from the EN community's perspective, Coco was a very integral part of Hololive. But I think that proclaiming that her departure is going to lead to the fall of Hololive is both unjustified doomerism and kinda indirectly disrespectful to the bevy of other talent they still have who will still be eager to entertain. Why can't we just take her at her word that she got burned out and it stopped being fun for her anymore? Even without the wumao nonsense, she was definitely pulling over her weight with Asacoco and the Shitpost Reviews and bilingualism - things well beyond "start Live2D, start game, go live." And while those things make her definitely irreplacable, it's also not hard to see how she could get worn down by feeling like she always has to go above and beyond like that. Do we want to force her to continue for our amusement if doing so would make her miserable?

Maybe it's time to let the misery wash away and be excited both for Coco/Kson's future projects as well as what Hololive's other talents are bringing to the table. You don't need copium if you can just see this as a situation which doesn't warrant it in the first place.

Peace.
I think the recent revelations from her Member's stream will put a lot of that to bed. Whether or not she's telling the truth it's all we officially have, and that was the generally accepted/most plausible theory. It's nice to have some confirmation, and it gives a good bit of closure, at least for me.

On a related note I decided to finally become a Rosetai as Coco's announcement kind of came out of the blue so I'd like to support my oshi while I can.Aki.PNG
 
After reading all the new stuff posted today, I do feel a lot better about the whole thing now (as well as quite a few of us here as well). We got some better sort of idea what going on and we are not as clueless now as we was yesterday. I wouldn't want Coco to hold herself back if she not enjoying herself just for our sakes, feels wrong. Still going to be a long 21 days now but we shall make the most of it at least. No more suffering, only smiles.
 
I'll be over the moon if Coco continues on another channel where she doesn't have to worry about permissions for indie games or collabs with her other friends.


She plays the type of games I like. Just started her niconico today and she's got hundreds of hours of horror games. Her old pre-Coco voice is so different though, it's interesting. If she keeps at it, there's bound to be clip channels that will translate her stuff so that's good with me.
 
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