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There has to be a way for niji to push the EN branch, they try with ads and that didn't do much even do it got over 1 million views, collabing with other nijis didn't help either and clippers don't seem to like them that much and with Ensingers and En2 coming out it's gonna be game over
Picking on Niji is getting old for me. Let people enjoy the high school football game instead of comparing it to the NFL.
 
There has to be a way for niji to push the EN branch, they try with ads and that didn't do much even do it got over 1 million views, collabing with other nijis didn't help either and clippers don't seem to like them that much and with Ensingers and En2 coming out it's gonna be game over
They have 2x the subs and views as Niji's other overseas projects.

I'd say that's a win.
 
Picking on Niji is getting old for me. Let people enjoy the high school football game instead of comparing it to the NFL.
NCAA would be a better comparison

Edit: Do you guys think she could has done it or was this one of the creative diffrences she had with cover.
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Haven't watched much of NijiEN, but Pomu at least has the charm to win over even fans deep on the side of Hololive like myself. Mostly because she seems possessed by the same brand of Z-tier luck as many members within YAGOO's House of Broken Girls.
 
There has to be a way for niji to push the EN branch, they try with ads and that didn't do much even do it got over 1 million views, collabing with other nijis didn't help either and clippers don't seem to like them that much and with Ensingers and En2 coming out it's gonna be game over
I don't really know what much else they can do at this point, especially after they bought ads and shit. At this point they'd have to just go with the flow and hopefully clippers clip their streams. That's really how Hololive exploded overseas right? Holo clips getting viral.
 
It's not like NijiEN is doing badly. Hololive EN specifically blew up because non-Japanese viewers had seen the Japanese streams already and then moved to EN (that or they jumped over because of Senzawa). NijiEN doesn't have that kind of base built already. Considering their sub counts though, their progress is already quite impressive.

Plus I like the autistic fish girl and want to (lovingly) bully her.
 
I don't really know what much else they can do at this point, especially after they bought ads and shit. At this point they'd have to just go with the flow and hopefully clippers clip their streams. That's really how Hololive exploded overseas right? Holo clips getting viral.
No point in comparing them with Hololive's stronger fan interconnectivity (as in a Haachama fan will just as likely be subscribed to Ina as opposed to a Sister Claire fan knowing who Finara is). They're growing just fine naturally on their own, far more than they would have had they continued to operate as indies, and will likely earn their silver button within the next couple of months if not weeks.
 
NCAA would be a better comparison

Edit: Do you guys think she could has done it or was this one of the creative diffrences she had with cover.
Maybe it’s one of those "unfulfilled dreams" she talked about, but there’s no way that’s one of the creative differences that made her leave. At best, she planted the seeds and showed management that there's interest from the fans in HoloES, but nothing decisive.
 
I said last night that Coco's Luna story ended abruptly, but she actually gave a full story.
One thing I noticed. Coco seems to fully plan to return to the stage with Hololive Members in some shape of form. She said she'll keep her promise with Sora to share the stage, even if she have to take a long detour. She said she'll become a super idol and come back to see Luna again. Would be so nice if a few year from now we got to see Kson next model dancing on the stage with the 4th gen again.
 
I said last night that Coco's Luna story ended abruptly, but she actually gave a full story.
One thing I noticed. Coco seems to fully plan to return to the stage with Hololive Members in some shape of form. She said she'll keep her promise with Sora to share the stage, even if she have to take a long detour. She said she'll become a super idol and come back to see Luna again. Would be so nice if a few year from now we got to see Kson next model dancing on the stage with the 4th gen again.
I'm hoping Coco can break the mold from this retarded Japanese idea that once you leave it's like you never existed. She has obviously bargained this because HoloMems will be able to talk about her after she leaves. So call me eternally optimistic, but she may make an appearance from time to time as a visitor. Whether she can use her current model or whatever avatar she makes after this.

Considering that Holo is open now to collabs with Vshojo, Pikamee, etc, shutting her out completely as an ex employee (who they didn't want to lose) would be lunacy.
 
I'm hoping Coco can break the mold from this retarded Japanese idea that once you leave it's like you never existed. She has obviously bargained this because HoloMems will be able to talk about her after she leaves. So call me eternally optimistic, but she may make an appearance from time to time as a visitor. Whether she can use her current model or whatever avatar she makes after this.

Considering that Holo is open now to collabs with Vshojo, Pikamee, etc, shutting her out completely as an ex employee (who they didn't want to lose) would be lunacy.
I mean Sasaki Saku from nijisanji graduate/retired before and she did come back just fine so theres that.
 
I mean Sasaki Saku from nijisanji graduate/retired before and she did come back just fine so theres that.
I just see no reason Cover would get sand in their vag over her appearing in some form or another if she so desired. Even if she wasn't under contract and they couldn't gain monetarily because of her, but could through who she collabed with.
Not to mention it would help their image, which is very important in Japanese society. You didn't lose your favorite because of "us" she chose to leave and now she's honoring us.

She has massive leverage, this isn't me coping, as I will follow her IRL streaming, but Coco as a character may not be as dead as we think.
 
I'm hoping Coco can break the mold from this retarded Japanese idea that once you leave it's like you never existed. She has obviously bargained this because HoloMems will be able to talk about her after she leaves. So call me eternally optimistic, but she may make an appearance from time to time as a visitor. Whether she can use her current model or whatever avatar she makes after this.

Considering that Holo is open now to collabs with Vshojo, Pikamee, etc, shutting her out completely as an ex employee (who they didn't want to lose) would be lunacy.
The only people in recent memory that is taboo to be spoken about by others in the same company is Monoe and maybe Kaoru in Holostars, but those are special instances - Monoe was fired because of breaking their contract and Kaoru had a contract dispute

Aloe is being spoken with love and respect mostly by Gen5, but it is clear that Delutaya wants to move on from Aloe


Even Nijis that have retired keep getting mentioned from time to time.

So it's definitely not a "Japanese idea" to act as if people who have left don't exist - that is reserved for special cases
 
One thing I noticed. Coco seems to fully plan to return to the stage with Hololive Members in some shape of form. She said she'll keep her promise with Sora to share the stage, even if she have to take a long detour. She said she'll become a super idol and come back to see Luna again. Would be so nice if a few year from now we got to see Kson next model dancing on the stage with the 4th gen again.

I'm hoping Coco can break the mold from this retarded Japanese idea that once you leave it's like you never existed. She has obviously bargained this because HoloMems will be able to talk about her after she leaves. So call me eternally optimistic, but she may make an appearance from time to time as a visitor. Whether she can use her current model or whatever avatar she makes after this.
For a while now after Coco's announcement, I've been entertaining a certain line of thinking... and after seeing the clips with Sora and Luna, I can't help but think her return to Hololive is a definite possibility.

Imagine this: Coco/Kson goes off into the wilderness for a year or so. She's doing everything she wants to do that Cover won't let her. And then, bam, Cover has a special announcement to make. Someone's coming back... 🤔
 
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