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[gourmand]

I also think to the autistic tranny mind, just like women’s restrooms and dressing rooms are zones free of any possible normal male interference with their degeneracy, lesbian lives in general are also zones free of male competition. They are failed males, incels who have never been desirable to women. So, being autists who do not understand other minds, they think well, if I just become a woman, I will no longer have to compete with other males, and as a male the female I become will be a superior female who can easily win out over actual females, whether it’s sports or hooking up with lesbians.

They invent this and nourish the delusion in one another and so just like incels on their boards invent ideas about women to get mad about, they then get mad about this scenario they created that no actual lesbian ever agree to support.

Total armchair psychoanalysis here, but I wonder if it isn't tied in with a sort of madonna-whore complex. As you mentioned, we know many of these autists are incels (whether having openly identified themselves as such or just by definition), and we know that incels have a bizarre preoccupation with female virginity (defloration fetish, reee roasties etc etc). It's also widely understood that most men don't consider lesbian sex equal to PIV/"real" sex. So I wonder if, for a lot of straight trannies, the lesbian fetish is directly associated with virginity fetish and viewing women who have sex with normal men to be tainted and unworthy.

There've been many instances in this thread of trannies bemoaning the fact that sure, bisexual women have shown interest in them, but this isn't "validating" enough. I'm sure I've seen posts by trannies about viewing their bisexual female partner as lesser than a lesbian partner because she's had sex with men in the past (though obviously they frame this in the language of their subculture by talking about how it effects their sense of identity or whatever horseshit). Lesbianism is also somewhat ideologically glorified (though with the major caveat that you cant mention the fact that genuine lesbians won't fuck troons) and considered a desireable identity as previously mentioned, whereas straight women are considered boring/basic/cringe in woque spaces, which lends credence to the idea of a madonna/whore split with how trannies conceive of female sexual orientation.

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Sorry for typing up a manifesto for basically "troons retarded lol", I'm just fascinated by the philosophical implications of this whole phenomenon. Please excuse me if this is better suited in the disussion thread.

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

The location of attraction for AGPs is internal, not external. Everyone is a prop for fulfilling their fetish. They aren't attracted to lesbians, they are attracted to the idea of themselves as a lesbian so the ultimate coom is when the external fulfills the internal fantasy.

They don't have normal attraction so it's easier to understand them as seeing humans are props not sexual partners helping them fulfill the fantasy that consumed them.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

Total armchair psychoanalysis here, but I wonder if it isn't tied in with a sort of madonna-whore complex. As you mentioned, we know many of these autists are incels (whether having openly identified themselves as such or just by definition), and we know that incels have a bizarre preoccupation with female virginity (defloration fetish, reee roasties etc etc). It's also widely understood that most men don't consider lesbian sex equal to PIV/"real" sex. So I wonder if, for a lot of straight trannies, the lesbian fetish is directly associated with virginity fetish and viewing women who have sex with normal men to be tainted and unworthy.

Honestly this energy is too deeply male for me to grok but it makes a lot of sense, and I look forward to some evil cishet males evaluating it.

 

[DatBepisTho]

Honestly this energy is too deeply male for me to grok but it makes a lot of sense, and I look forward to some evil cishet males evaluating it.

Bonus points if furry_friend is an evil cishet male as the originator of the theory. The coping, seething, and maybe even dilation would never be shriller.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

Bonus points if furry_friend is an evil cishet male as the originator of the theory. The coping, seething, and maybe even dilation would never be shriller.

If @furry_friend is an evil cisgender male I apologize. I only misgender troons.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

The location of attraction for AGPs is internal, not external. Everyone is a prop for fulfilling their fetish. They aren't attracted to lesbians, they are attracted to the idea of themselves as a lesbian so the ultimate coom is when the external fulfills the internal fantasy.

They don't have normal attraction so it's easier to understand them as seeing humans are props not sexual partners helping them fulfill the fantasy that consumed them.

I don’t think the majority of internet troons are true AGPs. It’s a mixture of autism, inceldom, and for some of them, internalized biphobia. On the latter, they see lesbian relationships as more pure than male/male ones, so they want to be a ‘lesbian’ so they can date other ‘trans lesbians’ as a way of dating men. There’s a sufficiently high number of MTFs who date other MTFs that I believe in this, and I do not think it’s all GAMP pseudobisexuality deriving from AGP.

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

I don’t think the majority of internet troons are true AGPs. It’s a mixture of autism, inceldom, and for some of them, internalized biphobia. On the latter, they see lesbian relationships as more pure than male/male ones, so they want to be a ‘lesbian’ so they can date other ‘trans lesbians’ as a way of dating men. There’s a sufficiently high number of MTFs who date other MTFs that I believe in this, and I do not think it’s all GAMP pseudobisexuality deriving from AGP.

I think you're being too kind.

A lot of the T4T AGP types is linked to their fetish for watching women being fucked - which because they're autistic they can't visualize right without a penis being present. A lot also have more focus directly on rape such as Kevin Gibes. Its a lot darker and set up in their mental perceptions.

EDIT: This really does only refer to dudes who make the move to transition. Dudes who don't even bother and just say they're a tranny online but don't do anything socially etc are a different species entirely. I also really don't know enough about FTM to get a good guess at what goes on there.

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

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Don't know if this was posted but why is there literal CHADS transitioning? This makes no sense, I can understand when it's an skinny short 19 year old with negative self-esteem or some shit, but why? He looks fine as a man, now he's looks laughable.

Everybody can transition, the question is more: WHY is he asking for validation seconds after doing 100 push ups ? Getting those arm muscles to pop is pretty much the opposite of what you should do while trying to pass as female.

I suspect a faker taking the piss at troons. He is looking dead-on at the camera, smirking so we can see his lantern jaw better, instead of playing the angles like they usually do.
This looks like a Pocahontas party wig and those are muscles that you don't get by questioning your gender.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I think you're being too kind.

A lot of the T4T AGP types is linked to their fetish for watching women being fucked - which because they're autistic they can't visualize right without a penis being present. A lot also have more focus directly on rape such as Kevin Gibes. Its a lot darker and set up in their mental perceptions.

You are right.
I don’t know, I just see all these depressed autistic guys who are basically being lured into being trans by the internet, and I feel bad for them in a way I don’t for the middle aged ex military hon.

 

[Raisin Boy]

The location of attraction for AGPs is internal, not external. Everyone is a prop for fulfilling their fetish. They aren't attracted to lesbians, they are attracted to the idea of themselves as a lesbian so the ultimate coom is when the external fulfills the internal fantasy.

They don't have normal attraction so it's easier to understand them as seeing humans are props not sexual partners helping them fulfill the fantasy that consumed them.

This is either exactly or approximately correct. It's hard to tell which, because it's hard to enter the headspace of these people. Suffice to say, I've seen previously gay or gay-leaning bisexuals come out as strictly "lesbian" after they begin their transition. To me, that says that all of their attraction is intrinsic rather than extrinsic - like you said. AGP's pursue sexuality to validate delusions that they've taught themselves. It's not enough for them to attract male attention, nor the attention of bisexual women, because there's some possibility there that they're attracted to their male characteristics, and they don't epitomize the corrupted idea of femininity they desire besides. Lesbians, because they're exclusively interested in women, offer them the greatest achievable validation: "If a lesbian has sex with me, that means I'm a woman by way of simple tautology." Again, I'm not a trained psychologist, but I'm getting better and better at clocking borderline personalities by unlucky exposure to them. An AGP only values any partner in terms of the way that they can make them feel about themselves. They may value that immensely, but fundamentally, their attraction to a sexual partner is secondary. That being said, I think I'm describing a more specific phenomenon than the average autistic, graduated incel "transbian" MTF.

 

[NoReturn]

I have to wonder who told this dude that women get tingly nipples when they orgasm.

Hentai. They learned it from hentai.

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

This is either exactly or approximately correct. It's hard to tell which, because it's hard to enter the headspace of these people. Suffice to say, I've seen previously gay or gay-leaning bisexuals come out as strictly "lesbian" after they begin their transition. To me, that says that all of their attraction is intrinsic rather than extrinsic - like you said. AGP's pursue sexuality to validate delusions that they've taught themselves. It's not enough for them to attract male attention, nor the attention of bisexual women, because there's some possibility there that they're attracted to their male characteristics, and they don't epitomize the corrupted idea of femininity they desire besides. Lesbians, because they're exclusively interested in women, offer them the greatest achievable validation: "If a lesbian has sex with me, that means I'm a woman by way of simple tautology." Again, I'm not a trained psychologist, but I'm getting better and better at clocking borderline personalities by unlucky exposure to them. An AGP only values any partner in terms of the way that they can make them feel about themselves. They may value that immensely, but fundamentally, their attraction to a sexual partner is secondary. That being said, I think I'm describing a more specific phenomenon than the average autistic, graduated incel "transbian" MTF.

I'm really sorry for posting so much, but I find this topic really interesting and I think it bears discussing.

The Incel MTFs are actually a useful case study. For the most part is very difficult to examine paraphilia because we don't usually get someone to look at until they've reached the point of needing therapy or prison. Finding the source of paraphilia, or how it develops is really difficult as a result. However, through reddit and twitter, we have these AGP types documenting the path they took to get to that point. The Incel transbians are 100% cases of "I couldn't get the GF so I became the GF" and their fantasy is the version of GF they wanted but couldn't get. They will normally engage with other trannies because they don't challenge the fantasy and indulge it, while having a penis present so someone can get fucked because they do not view sex as real unless there is a penis there.

Its actually the best thing that twitter gave us, the ability to watch someone become an AGP.

EDIT: What I mean is there tends to be a belief here that the paraphilia comes into being on it's own, that you merely are AGP and then act it out. I think the way we are watching it play out in real time on twitter proves that paraphilia can to a degree be learned.

 

[Surfin Terf]

Re: the attempt to work out the origins of the troon lesbian phenomenon, I think you're trying to hard to fit it all into a single cohesive framework. In the same way that gender dysphoria isn't really a mental illness in and of itself (but rather a symptom of mental illness), the sub-category of tran-slebians is also the result of several different kinds of defective personalities.

• Some of them truly loathe (other) men and therefore want a woman who has no connection to other men.
• There's some with a straightforward lesbian fetish.
• There's some who just want validation.
• There's the ones who just think that being a lesbian is more prestigious than being a bisexual
• The GAMPs
• The ones who get off on preying on lesbians

And even these categories can further be subdivided into distinct categories. Porn lesbian fetishists and yuri lesbian fetishists are very different categories that still have weird hybrids. It can be fun to try to fit trannies into a rational framework can be fun, but you have to understand that you won't ever be able to make it all work because you can't truly make mental illness fit into a rational framework.

 

[Wallace]

The location of attraction for AGPs is internal, not external. Everyone is a prop for fulfilling their fetish. They aren't attracted to lesbians, they are attracted to the idea of themselves as a lesbian so the ultimate coom is when the external fulfills the internal fantasy.

They don't have normal attraction so it's easier to understand them as seeing humans are props not sexual partners helping them fulfill the fantasy that consumed them.

It's called malignant self-love.

 

[artilleryfroth]

Re: the attempt to work out the origins of the troon lesbian phenomenon, I think you're trying to hard to fit it all into a single cohesive framework. In the same way that gender dysphoria isn't really a mental illness in and of itself (but rather a symptom of mental illness), the sub-category of tran-slebians is also the result of several different kinds of defective personalities.

• Some of them truly loathe (other) men and therefore want a woman who has no connection to other men.
• There's some with a straightforward lesbian fetish.
• There's some who just want validation.
• There's the ones who just think that being a lesbian is more prestigious than being a bisexual
• The GAMPs
• The ones who get off on preying on lesbians

And even these categories can further be subdivided into distinct categories. Porn lesbian fetishists and yuri lesbian fetishists are very different categories that still have weird hybrids. It can be fun to try to fit trannies into a rational framework can be fun, but you have to understand that you won't ever be able to make it all work because you can't truly make mental illness fit into a rational framework.

As a professional, you are creating too many categories.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

I haven’t known many autistic kids as an adult, but I did have a friend with a son who was an autist, and she was always super desperate for him to have friends, so she would coach him about what to expect and how to react, in social situations. And sometimes it would go ok, but...because mom had told him how a thing would be, what they would say and do, and what he would then say and do, if it didn’t work out the way she had explained, he would have a meltdown. Because he is a PC and everyone else is an NPC, and they’re supposed to (do the thing) when he (presses the lever) and then they DID NOT FOLLOW THE SCRIPT.

It strikes me that the autistic transcel is experiencing that. The internet tells him things are a certain way, and when he does (x), people are supposed to respond a certain way to him. So he troons himself and the internet hugbox congratulates him and cheers him on. Meanwhile his actual life has not changed, or at least, not in any way that they said it would. He alienates any friends and family he does have, gets infuriated when lesbians do not respond like the NPCs he was assured they were.

None of his expectations were set up by anyone who would ever have to pay the Amhole Toll, yet he rages because they failed to respond like he was told they were supposed to.

 

[scathefire]

Because that's part of the fetish unfortunately. If you've seen any of the pornography that convinced a lot of them to transition, most if it involves men raping (usually underage) lesbians with a dick and the lesbians "liking it". See: the stuff written by Aimee Challoner's husband, dickgirl hentai shit, etc.

I have minor theory that this is why, after years of being a "lesbian" getting extremely frowned upon in woke circles—four or five years ago I was told that "wlw" was trans exclusionary, and that being a lesbian instead of pansexual/bisexual/queer meant someone was a TERF—so many young girls/women are suddenly are suddenly all militantly calling themselves lesbians despite... often literally having male partners they're happy with. If you look at the carrd autism thread there's a lot of examples of very young children calling themselves lesbians (along with he/him, they/them, bi/pan, etc, of course). IMO it's often being actively encouraged by the creepy adult men who call themselves lesbians. It makes me really sad how now when you see someone say they're a lesbian online now—outside of sites that are cancelled for being TERF—it's often either a man (transbians lol) or a young person being groomed by adult sexuality. It feels like most of the lesbians in woke circles have gone they or just say they're "queer" or bisexual. Plus, there are lunatics like this woman:
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Everyone is taking all of this at face value and I'm kind of afraid that when this all blows over, it'll be us paying the price.

At this point whenever I see a zoomer on twitter (or some other site) claim that they're a lesbian, I know never to take that at face value. Actual lesbians have been pretty much kicked out of the woke left for a long time now, there's no way in hell that their ideology is compatible with your sexuality unless you are 1) severely deluded/optimistic about it or 2) not a lesbian. Gay men aren't given the same level of shit for not wanting "men" with pussies, I guess because women skinwalking men are going to be nowhere near as aggressive as men skinwalking women, especially when it's man-on-woman intimidation as opposed to woman-on-man intimidation, which less effective for obvious reasons.

 

[artilleryfroth]

I haven’t known many autistic kids as an adult, but I did have a friend with a son who was an autist, and she was always super desperate for him to have friends, so she would coach him about what to expect and how to react, in social situations. And sometimes it would go ok, but...because mom had told him how a thing would be, what they would say and do, and what he would then say and do, if it didn’t work out the way she had explained, he would have a meltdown. Because he is a PC and everyone else is an NPC, and they’re supposed to (do the thing) when he (presses the lever) and then they DID NOT FOLLOW THE SCRIPT.

It strikes me that the autistic transcel is experiencing that. The internet tells him things are a certain way, and when he does (x), people are supposed to respond a certain way to him. So he troons himself and the internet hugbox congratulates him and cheers him on. Meanwhile his actual life has not changed, or at least, not in any way that they said it would. He alienates any friends and family he does have, gets infuriated when lesbians do not respond like the NPC he was assured they were.

None of his expectations were set up by anyone who would ever have to pay the Amhole Toll, yet he rages because they failed to respond like he was told they were supposed to.

As a retired psychiatrist I can tell you many horror stories but mainly that all these troons are very dangerous.

 

[Chapstick4Lyfe]

As a retired psychiatrist I can tell you many horror stories but mainly that all these troons are very dangerous.

Is there anything you can share?

 

[AMHOLIO]

As a retired psychiatrist I can tell you many horror stories but mainly that all these troons are very dangerous.

If you can, please share. Don't hold out the goods on us maaaaaan.