🐱 Catwoman's oral sex scene erasure is just one more way media denies women sexual pleasure - Cartoon gets censored, thots most effected

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"What is or isn't in Batman's bedroom repertoire?" is a question that most of us did not foresee being answered this week. But 2021 continues to be just full of surprises.

Buried in an otherwise ordinary interview with Variety on subverting superhero tropes, Justin Halpern and Patrick Schumacher, co-creators of HBO Max's adult animated series "Harley Quinn," shared why a scene of Batman performing oral sex on Catwoman wound up being removed. Apparently, pleasing a woman is just not what heroes do, according to DC Entertainment, which ordered for the scene to be cut, and as nonsensical as this thinking seems to be, it certainly follows a long history of puritannical policing and erasure of female pleasure in movies and TV.


Halpern's full quote to Variety on the scene in question reads:

"It's incredibly gratifying and free to be using characters that are considered villains because you just have so much more leeway," he said. "A perfect example of that is in this third season of 'Harley' [when] we had a moment where Batman was going down on Catwoman. And DC was like, 'You can't do that. You absolutely cannot do that.' They're like, 'Heroes don't do that.' So, we said, 'Are you saying heroes are just selfish lovers?' They were like, 'No, it's that we sell consumer toys for heroes. It's hard to sell a toy if Batman is also going down on someone.'"


While this revelation has caused any number of humorous reactions on social media and in the superhero sexual discourse, the underlying reason for erasing this scene is more upsetting. Somehow, that toy marketing argument just doesn't wash. "Harley Quinn" is billed as a show for adults and even carries a TV-MA rating. Its adult content – rampant portrayals of murder, blood, other violence and racy humor – hasn't been a deterrent for selling toys of so-called "heroes" so far.

DC can attempt to make any excuse it wants, in this case, pretty explicitly discouraging men from going down on a woman if they have any dream of being a superhero. But Halpern's recollection of the exchange with DC reads pretty transparently as what it is, which is discomfort with female sexuality and pleasure, when it's not catered to the male gaze, or in service of male pleasure.

In fact, if a powerful, macho superhero is supposedly the pinnacle of masculinity to which men must aspire, the message here is pretty bleak — that pleasing a female partner is somehow less masculine, and masculinity is defined only by being pleased. With male superheroes being defined by their refusal to give women head, it's no surprise supervillains are becoming more and more appealing.

The recurring theme of erasure of women's sexual pleasure onscreen unfortunately mirrors everyday realities. Researchers from the Archives of Sexual Behavior found the group most likely to always experience orgasm during sex is heterosexual men, 95% of whom responded that they usually or always climax, compared with just 65% of heterosexual women, the lowest of all demographics the researchers studied. A 2017 study by Durex found 20% of women said they don't orgasm compared with 2% of men. Nearly 75% of women said they can't orgasm during sex itself, while, incidentally, 30% of men said the best way to help a woman orgasm is through penetrative sexual acts.

If men with female sexual partners are getting their inspiration from TV and movies, DC — and Batman — certainly aren't doing women any favors.

"Harley Quinn" is a show that's more comfortable with over-the-top violence and yet is uncomfortable with an oral sex scene featuring a man going down on a woman; this is frustratingly par for the course in Hollywood. There is, after all, a notable history of movies portraying women receiving oral sex being more likely to receive R-ratings than movies that portray the reverse of this, or other scenes of rampant violence, as if there's something inherently more explicit, vulgar and taboo about seeing a woman given pleasure.


But there is some hope for the future of cinema — namely from an online forum created by two women that evaluates whether shows and movies, and even books and music, with sex scenes or sexual references, pass "the Clit Test," created in 2020. To do so, these scenes must simply acknowledge the clitoris exists, be that through suggestions of oral sex or other clitoral stimulation, or perhaps a character expressing disappointment after a sexual encounter that only included penetrative sex. There have been a number of recent passes, according to the Clit Test's website, including Adult Swim's "Tuca & Bertie," Apple TV+'s "Ted Lasso," Netflix's "Ginny and Georgia," and, in terms of music, certainly Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's "WAP."

As much of society has become increasingly sex positive in recent years, thanks entirely to bold women and queer people paving the way, slut-shaming has been forced to become a lot more subtle. DC's overt hostility to portrayals of women receiving oral sex almost feels like a bitter reality check. For all the empowering anthems and odes to female sexuality of late, from 2019's "Hustlers" to 2020's "WAP," there are still a lot of people and a greater culture that disdain women having and enjoying sex.

As the old feminist adage goes, the personal is the political, and there's almost nothing more personal than pleasure. The discouragement of women enjoying and having sex for fun rather than procreation or simply cishet male wish fulfillment is a part of why there's constant controversy and bad policymaking around birth control and abortion. It's why conservatives warn of the collapse of society seemingly every time Cardi B breathes. And it's why DC deemed it "unheroic" for Batman to go down on Catwoman in "Harley Quinn."


KYLIE CHEUNG​

Kylie Cheung is a staff writer at Salon covering culture. She is also the author of "A Woman's Place," a collection of feminist essays. You can follow her work on Twitter @kylietcheung.
 
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Good on Salon for hiring Kylie. Paraphilias -- like, for instance, being unable to achieve sexual gratification without watching a children's cartoon -- are common among those with autism spectrum disorders (ASD). It must be a terrible struggle when a simple editorial choice, by someone you have literally never met, can completely remove your power to achieve orgasm.

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Good on Salon for hiring Kylie. Paraphilias -- like, for instance, being unable to achieve sexual gratification without watching a children's cartoon -- are common among those with autism spectrum disorders (ASD). It must be a terrible struggle when a simple editorial choice, by someone you have literally never met, can completely remove your power to achieve orgasm.

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she got crazy big dicksuckin' lips for an azn
 
A LOT of women will beg to differ... in fact, they consider it an achievement if they have ANY man to perform oral sex on them because according to them, a lot of them don't like/want to.
maybe because the vast majority don't wash properly down there and one single lick makes you think of this:
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Need to have a chaser of everclear after that just to disinfect your mouth.
 
If this bitch needs her shitty oral scene, then why doesn't she hire some unofficial talent to animate it for her? There's plenty willing for the right price.
 
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Somehow, that toy marketing argument just doesn't wash
Crosspost from the MovieBob thread.
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Anyhoo, I'm glad hoes are mad, and capeshit is bad.
Kylie Cheung is a staff writer at Salon covering culture. She is also the author of "A Woman's Place," a collection of feminist essays.
Sounds like the kind of woman who fingerpaints with her own period blood.
 
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Crosspost from the MovieBob thread.
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Anyhoo, I'm glad hoes are mad, and capeshit is bad.

Sounds like the kind of woman who fingerpaints with her own period blood.
You say this as a joke. But now some exec in DC drawing up plans to sell a limited edition figurine of Batman with his face buried in Catwoman's crotch. The extra limited edition ones will have a button you can press that'll make Bruce Wayne go "Rabbala habbala habbala." You think I'm joking but I guarantee you coomers and consoomers will shell out a thousand bucks for those.
 
You say this as a joke. But now some exec in DC drawing up plans to sell a limited edition figurine of Batman with his face buried in Catwoman's crotch. The extra limited edition ones will have a button you can press that'll make Bruce Wayne go "Rabbala habbala habbala." You think I'm joking but I guarantee you coomers and consoomers will shell out a thousand bucks for those.
These pervs can't just make the action figures they already have fuck each other? Or will that hurt their "collector's value"?
 
These pervs can't just make the action figures they already have fuck each other? Or will that hurt their "collector's value"?
You can't exactly pose Funko Pop figures to fuck each other. The guy at Gamestop told me so.
 
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So a woman can only derive sexual pleasure from just one man? That's suspicious Puritan, not very woke if you ask me.
 
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It's an adult cartoon on HBO. Little odd to cut a scene like that out. This woman seems to be making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
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...you know what?

Yes.

Yes it is.

Now put the chastity belt back on and eat your graham crackers and Corn Flakes.

she got crazy big dicksuckin' lips for an azn
Lip injections and low self esteem.

A LOT of women will beg to differ... in fact, they consider it an achievement if they have ANY man to perform oral sex on them because according to them, a lot of them don't like/want to.
"Cunnilingus is the second gayest thing in the world, right after taking it up the ass." -- Pliny the Elder, probably
 
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mmm... i'm still wondering the others scenes.
I mean, there's a scene from a earlier animation (2019?) when Harley Quinn took Nightwing as a prisioner but i don't remember more than him being tied to a bed and she showing her plump ass in a specific camera angle.
Is the same animation?
 
...you know what?

Yes.

Yes it is.

Now put the chastity belt back on and eat your graham crackers and Corn Flakes.


Lip injections and low self esteem.


"Cunnilingus is the second gayest thing in the world, right after taking it up the ass." -- Pliny the Elder, probably
So it goes:
1) Taking it up the ass
2) Cunnilingus
3) Fucking a dude in the ass

Did I get that right?
 
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mmm... i'm still wondering the others scenes.
I mean, there's a scene from a earlier animation (2019?) when Harley Quinn took Nightwing as a prisioner but i don't remember more than him being tied to a bed and she showing her plump ass in a specific camera angle.
Is the same animation?
That one was Batman and Harley Quinn (released in 2017) which was a fetish movie for Bruce Timm.
 
Batman just doesn't have time to make Catwoman coom. He's got to fight so much crime and then pretend to be a billionaire and run a company. He doesn't have time for that.

Though seriously, its an adult animation which kids aren't going to bother seeing. And the kids have probably already been groomed because they have Roblox, Discord and Twitter. You probably have hundreds of troons encourging them to mangle their genitals, take sterilizing hormones and smash their faces with hammers to stop their 'Y' chromsome for accentuating their masculine features when puberty blockers and female hormones don't magically turn you into a woman. I think they can handle not seeing Batman go down on Catwoman since nobody watches fucking HBO Max and all kids are watching anime and reading manga instead.

Why the fuck would any of them watch Western 'adult' cartoons? Them kids be watching Demon Slayer and DBZ and shit.
 
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This story is blowing up and still has room to grow. I was watching multiple streams for Dead By Daylight yesterday re: the new Resident Evil patch on meal breaks from playing myself and two different streamers discussed it randomly(both thots mad that Batman won't eat pussy). Expect more follow-up drama.

You say this as a joke. But now some exec in DC drawing up plans to sell a limited edition figurine of Batman with his face buried in Catwoman's crotch. The extra limited edition ones will have a button you can press that'll make Bruce Wayne go "Rabbala habbala habbala." You think I'm joking but I guarantee you coomers and consoomers will shell out a thousand bucks for those.
Toy stores never, but dedicated comic book stores have been selling raunchy statuettes for decades like this:
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the books go woke, but the statuettes never have, never will
 
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