Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[4AMPudding]

Nice moving of goal posts Covid-19 is a Cold. Remember the last cold season that crippled every country in the world? You can downplay the Lab Virus and Hype up the dangers of the Vaccine all you want but its not based in reality. Isn't Covid-19 like the 3rd cause of death in the US funny cold you got.

It only crippled every country in the world because the governments let it.

Besides, you act like the vaccine is safe yet 4 pilots died recently just after taking the jab.

 

[Disheveled Human]

It only crippled every country in the world because the governments let it.

Besides, you act like the vaccine is safe yet 4 pilots died recently just after taking the jab.

Statistically its quite safe especially when compared to Covid-19 itself.

 

[4AMPudding]

Statistically its quite safe especially when compared to Covid-19 itself.

No, it isnt. The death rate for 20 somethings is so incredibly low, about 0.027~ . Thats if i can even catch it. I've been to arcades here multiple times and havent seen a single person who even looked like they had it, let alone me catching it when i was touching shit all day. I refuse to put an untested irreverable experimental vaccine in my body when i could live my life as i hadnt and have such an incredibly low chance to catch it, and a microscopic chance of dying.

Unless your lardass 400+ pound it actually at risk, i'm calling your bluff on acting purposefully facetious.

 

[Disheveled Human]

No, it isnt. The death rate for 20 somethings is so incredibly low, about 0.027~ . Thats if i can even catch it. I've been to arcades here multiple times and havent seen a single person who even looked like they had it, let alone me catching it when i was touching shit all day. I refuse to put an untested irreverable experimental vaccine in my body when i could live my life as i hadnt and have such an incredibly low chance to catch it, and a microscopic chance of dying.

Unless your lardass 400+ pound it actually at risk, i'm calling your bluff on acting purposefully facetious.

The vaccine is still safer to get then if you are a lean and mean 20 something who contracts covid. add a couple zeros to the 0.027 you claim which is already generous.

 

[4AMPudding]

The vaccine is still safer to get then if you are a lean and mean 20 something who contracts covid. add a couple zeros to the 0.027 you claim which is already generous.

Getting the vaccine is guaranteeing side effects, side effects that can kill me way easier than a cold ever could. No i wont even think about taking it after the 4 pilots died recently, cementing in my, and many many others to whom i shall share, mind(s) that the vaccine is extremely dangerous and you're acting facetious in implying it's not.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Getting the vaccine is guaranteeing side effects, side effects that can kill me way easier than a cold ever could. No i wont even think about taking it after the 4 pilots died recently, cementing in my, and many many others to whom i shall share, mind(s) that the vaccine is extremely dangerous and you're acting facetious in implying it's not.

I don't care about 4 pilots who the fuck knows they may be as you claim a lardass 400+ pound. Don't take my word for it look at the data the government provides and round everything up in your arguments favor and you are still off by a mile.

 

[4AMPudding]

I don't care about 4 pilots who the fuck knows they may be as you claim a lardass 400+ pound. Don't take my word for it look at the data the government provides and round everything up in your arguments favor and you are still off by a mile.

>trusting goverment data

 

[Disheveled Human]

>trusting goverment data

>Conspiracy theorist.

 

[4AMPudding]

>Conspiracy theorist.

>forcing normal people to get the jab so you yourself can live life

 

[Disheveled Human]

>forcing normal people to get the jab so you yourself can live life

>Trusts the CCP
>Gets information from a youtube doctor whos twitter handle is assfucker 3000
>Covid is the 3rd leading cause of death in the U.S but Vaccines somehow kill more because assfucker 3000 said so

 

[Derka Derka]

The vaccine is still safer to get then if you are a lean and mean 20 something who contracts covid. add a couple zeros to the 0.027 you claim which is already generous.

Until you can show the 5K post vaccine deaths in the U.S. (and 10K in the EU) can be understood and explained, it is still not statistically safe.

I haven't even mentioned adverse reactions which, as far as I know, have not been formally tallied in the US (over 400K recorded in the EU)

But it sounds like you bet on the winner champ ... take your double dose and live smugly knowing you beat the system

 

[Blamo]

>Conspiracy theorist.

Everybody is one.

Just check this official narrative:

For example imagine that suddenly, all countries in the world shut down, using the same symbolism and language at the same time because some guy in China ate a bat soup. Countries instead of actually competing, as it would be rational with each other decided to shut down their economies and wreck their the lives of the normal people because some guy in China ate a bat soup. After that all the countries in the world decided trying to force vaccinations and connect them to international travel. Conveniently in many places police got extra powers to enforce previously unthinkable things like limiting how many people can be in a house, or what people are doing in their free time.

Why, because some guy in china ate a bat soup and just this so deadly virus nobody seems to die from caused the exact same reaction all over the globe. It certainly wasn't something planned for, hyped by the media to create fear to meld society into whatever shape they want it to. It was just a necessary thing, that the politicians did from the good of their heart. Even if the cure will kill more people than the disease.

I think in general more people died trying to secure the rights and freedoms that are being destroyed globally because of this super serious flu. Oh, and there are new strains on the horizon because viruses do mutate and vaccines are stagnant, just like the Flu. You cannot eradicate Covid or the Flu, but sure they seem to want to close down the whole world until they do this Sisyphean task, at the expense of the people.

I literally don't care about how many people the memeflu or the memevaxx killed, this is not a Hollywood serious disease, but the things are being taken away from the people are deadly serious. And people won't get them back. Just like how Privacy and other things got eroded due to "terrorism" after 9/11.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Until you can show the 5K post vaccine deaths in the U.S. (and 10K in the EU) can be understood and explained, it is still not statistically safe.

I haven't even mentioned adverse reactions which, as far as I know, have not been formally tallied in the US (over 400K recorded in the EU)

But it sounds like you bet on the winner champ ... take your double dose and live smugly knowing you beat the system

when 100,000's of millions have been deployed worldwide, pretty soon it will be in the billions yeah 5k-10k is not a big deal, hell if we are dealing in the billions 100k is not that big of a deal compared to catching Covid-19. lets count all adverse reactions as lethal the ratio is still in favor of vaccines. You guys are off by that much its at this point irrefutable unless its some kind of death clock that kills you out of nowhere in 2 years unannounced.

I literally don't care about how many people the memeflu or the memevaxx killed

Death is an important factor for sure but most diseases come with baggage this being a vascular disease I want to avoid it if at all possible am I crazy for not wanting to catch this particular disease?

 

[Derka Derka]

when 100,000's of millions have been deployed worldwide..

Umm ... that's a hundred billion dude

BTW the vax doesn't give you immunity ... it is non-sterilising.
You have to keep taking boosters to maintain it's efficacy,

The coof is endemic ... expect it to remain seasonal

 

[Blamo]

@Disheveled Human

Nobody wants to get sick. But does it worth living in a cyberpunk dystopia because of this? There was never a discussion about any of the this. The ruling powers just unilaterally, without consultation or letting any way for the people to address this made policies that basically closed people into their homes and can force them to take whatever they want to insert into people.

I do not want any authority to have this power, especially one that is ruled by people who doesn't have our interests in mind. I remind you that this is coming from the same crowd that worked on reducing standards in banking, food industry etc. to basically feed people junk and cause mass harm for good profits.

The sugar conspiracy | Ian Leslie

The Long Read: In 1972, a British scientist sounded the alarm that sugar – and not fat – was the greatest danger to our health. But his findings were ridiculed and his reputation ruined. How did the world’s top nutrition scientists get it so wrong for so long?

www.theguardian.com

The reason why sugar replaced fat was based on a badly done research, that nobody cared about to replicate. Not to mention there were research into sugar's effects financed by the sugar industry. When they found out that the rats acted weirdly due to sugar, they just cut the funding. And nobody decided to look into it for decades, because muh experts said science is settled.

Sugar industry sponsorship of germ-free rodent studies linking sucrose to hyperlipidemia and cancer: An historical analysis of internal documents

In 1965, the Sugar Research Foundation (SRF) secretly funded a review in the New England Journal of Medicine that discounted evidence linking sucrose consumption to blood lipid levels and hence coronary heart disease (CHD). SRF subsequently funded animal research to evaluate sucrose’s CHD risks...

journals.plos.org

A study comparing conventional rats fed a high-sugar diet to those fed a high-starch diet suggested that sucrose consumption might be associated with elevated levels of beta-glucuronidase, an enzyme previously associated with bladder cancer in humans. SRF terminated Project 259 without publishing the results. The sugar industry did not disclose evidence of harm from animal studies that would have (1) strengthened the case that the CHD risk of sucrose is greater than starch and (2) caused sucrose to be scrutinized as a potential carcinogen.

The way vaccinations are being rolled out is basically shameful, a for profit product is being promoted for free. And criticism of said product is banned. It would be like the Coca Cola company making drinking a bottle of coke every day advisable by corrupting the FDA by pointing to some badly sourced document how people who are not drinking Cola are sad. Also countries basically decide that what kind of Sodas they accept as their happy fizzy drink pass.

The Swine/Bird flu a decade ago was eerily similar, with vaccinations that were weird and death rates that never materialized, but the media hype was not there. The WHO even redefined what a pandemic was before that.

Contrast these two documents:

WHO | Pandemic preparedness

An influenza pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity, resulting in epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness. With the increase in global transport, as well as urbanization and overcrowded conditions, epidemics due the new influenza virus are likely to quickly take hold around the world.

WHO | Pandemic preparedness

A disease epidemic occurs when there are more cases of that disease than normal. A pandemic is a worldwide epidemic of a disease. An influenza pandemic may occur when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity. With the increase in global transport, as well as urbanization and overcrowded conditions in some areas, epidemics due to a new influenza virus are likely to take hold around the world, and become a pandemic faster than before. WHO has defined the phases of a pandemic to provide a global framework to aid countries in pandemic preparedness and response planning. Pandemics can be either mild or severe in the illness and death they cause, and the severity of a pandemic can change over the course of that pandemic.

That was pretty useful trying to set up the bird flu scare of the late 00s. I remember doomposting on TV how this thing from an Asian Wet market will kill all of us if don't get vaccinated with these rushed products.

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If you want a nice conflict of interest at the hearth of the issue, check this:

How is the World Health Organization funded?

Four charts explaining how the WHO receives and spends money. The UN agency is coordinating the global response to the coronavirus pandemic.

www.weforum.org

Two NGOs linked to Bill Gates (The one named after himself, the other is GAVI a group where NGOs and big pharma meets to sell more vaccines), who is in general, linked to profiting from vaccinations are among the biggest founders of the organization. Bill Gates is not a head honcho, but you can see that having a WHO chief who was working for GAVI which is a foundation financially tied to Bill Gates' NGO. May have his judgement clouded by money and connections.

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Overall, the media hype... Just imagine anything that could kill people and you would get sad sob stories in the media about Wild Racoons killing people. People would be eventually scared shitless of racoons. Does those people die from the Racoons? Sure! Are they statistically worth the panic? No.

Not to mention imagine if the anti Racoon agenda cooked the books and made sure that hospitals could get more money by hating on racoons. Also doctors are bound by their monopoly licensing agencies. University professors are bound to the status quo acceptable opinions because their livelihood depends on it. Doctors only exist nowadays to sell you branded pharmaceutical products. Just look at the Opiate crisis in America for example. They knew that it is addictive, because they are selling heroin basically and they still did it.

The whole situation is a mess, and somebody is making big money from this. And they are laughing at us, not with us.

Bonus point: They didn't stop undocumented mass migration, but they sure didn't let law abiding citizens to move around. If the disease was that serious they would simply close the borders and not let randos who were never vaccinated in their lives against anything just walk around.

Bonus2: https://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/17/buck_v_bell_inside_the_scotus
The Experts back then could just decide who to sterilize because Science TM said so. I mean just trust the experts.

 

[fhqwhgads]

I didn't have any qualms about getting the vaccine initially. Don't get me wrong, I was glad I was going to be one of the last groups to get it due to my age, just in case there were any issues with it. But, as the general message the government and media were perpetuating was 'it's super infectious, you could have a myriad of awful symptoms and potentially die, so take this vaccine to protect yourself and others', it made sense to get it.

But learning it was a lab leak all along, that the media, various governments, 'scientists' were helping not to only cover this up but paint anyone who even questioned this as a mental nutjob conspiracy theorist? I'm sorry, but you can fuck right off with your vaccine. My trust is lost, and there's no amount of shaming that can bring that back.

It's going to get awkward soon when people ask me if I've had it. I've been okay so far, but now it's open to almost every adult in the UK, I won't have the excuse of 'not my turn yet' anymore. And I can't explain my reasoning for not getting it, because I will be branded as a conspiracy theorist, lumped in with the crazies who think 5G is to blame. Do those crazies even exist in any large number, or was that just another attempt to stomp out any straying from the narrative? I feel a bit mental writing that last sentence, but considering everything that's happened in this shitshow, I think more of me believes that than not.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

And a "scientist" giving orders

I do not want any authority to have this power, especially one that is ruled by people who doesn't have our interests in mind.

If the people of this world were less prone to blind obedience, this world would be a better place.

Why couldn't Homo sapiens have evolved the ability to cooperate without too much authority?

 

[Blamo]

If the people of this world were less prone to blind obedience, this world would be a better place.

Why couldn't Homo sapiens have evolved the ability to cooperate without too much authority?

There were a lot of studies before the pandemic, that people pretty much only trust doctors and emergency workers. Many people simply can't believe that they can lie with statistic or even make things up. Even if they are generally skeptical, I blame our schooling system's "you learn fact, you don't care where fact comes from, you repeat fact" way of education.

Oh, actually it did, but people are taught blind obedience and not critical thinking. If people were that dumb individually, they wouldn't spend all the money to dumb down the population and make them good little worker bees.

 

[Billy Beer]

who think 5G is to blame. Do those crazies even exist in any large number, or was that just another attempt to stomp out any straying from the narrative?

Slight OT but i had a 5G tower 'vandalised' near me. It wasn't vandalised, the thing set on fire. I believe that 1st generation 5G towers had a design flaw whereby the power needed to create the high frequency signal of 5G was too much/too hot for the design.

Add in that some crazies thought 5G was mind-controlling or causing radiation poisoning (not a million miles off of the mark) and it seemed like the perfect opportunity to cover for the initial errors in the 5G towers, while branding any normal conspiracy theorist, as a 5G-gun-kill-yew conspiracy theorist, in the same way that Flat Earth is used to discredit CT

As for the Wuflu and vaccine, i see it like this:

Covid : You can get it and have no syptoms, mild symptoms, severe symptoms, hospitalised or dead
Vaccine: You have it and you're either fine, or dead.

Either, the vaccine IS that polarised in reactions, which is concerning to say the least, OR we have no way of capturing the data for non-covid related side-effects of the vaccines. Either way, you're running less risk by getting the disease.

 

[fhqwhgads]

I believe that 1st generation 5G towers had a design flaw whereby the power needed to create the high frequency signal of 5G was too much/too hot for the design.

Do you have any sources for this? Search engines are absolutely useless nowadays.

As for the Wuflu and vaccine, i see it like this:

Covid : You can get it and have no syptoms, mild symptoms, severe symptoms, hospitalised or dead
Vaccine: You have it and you're either fine, or dead.

From people I know who have taken the vaccine, they haven't been exactly fine either, everyone's been complaining of symptoms after the first and/or second jab. Some people have had to take time off work for it, or they got the vaccine on a Friday so that they're only ruining their weekend.

And if they're talking about a third jab, doesn't that indicate this may go on forever, especially considering all the spooky scary variants popping up? What's that, guaranted feeling like shite (or even clotting, brain zaps, dying) every year for the rest of your life? Just so fatty boombatty can keep on piling the burgers on? Nah mate.