Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

[Self-Aware-Neckbeard]

Eh, I frankly believe this is a W for Ethan, and I'll even give him props for that.

Ethan is a boring little shitfaced cunt, yeah. I don't even watch his content for the same reason I don't watch the Quartering: they have so little charisma it fuels my suicidal tendencies.
Crowder, tho, is a complete sperg macho manbaby.

People that about Ethan being a "coward" and whatnot... I'm sorry, are actually supposed to take these debates seriously? Nobody actually cares about what these two imbeciles say, right? Their arguments are shit and their knowledge is lacking. It's a sperging game. It is all for views and laughs, and I sure as hell laughed at Crowder being a total imbecile calling for his Dad. Also, isn't it funny how Crowder calls his dad by name to pretend he doesn't work with his dad?

Do you know what actually would have given Crowder credit? Actually debating and destroying Sam. He couldn't do it, tho, because he is just like Sargon of Akkad: he doesn't believe anything and doesn't know anything. I have yet to find a good explanation as to why Crowder didn't debate Sam. "If you come in expecting a mouse but you find a dog, are you the cowards?" That makes no sense to me, and it sounds like an excuse for Crowder being a loser. Why couldn't Crowder destroy Sam if he truly believed his arguments make sense? Unless Crowder is an idiot, of course, and has no chance of "beating" anything other than college students that don't know anything.

I, as a person who hasn't watched Ethan or Crowder in years, only saw Crowder being a complete farce and making a mockery out of himself.

Call me a lefty or whatever. Hell, I'm not even American. But all I saw were two losers, only one of the losers had his entire facade of macho man utterly destroyed by being a coward.

 

[ManletPower]

Eh, I frankly believe this is a W for Ethan, and I'll even give him props for that.

Ethan is a boring little shitfaced cunt, yeah. I don't even watch his content for the same reason I don't watch the Quartering: they have so little charisma it fuels my suicidal tendencies.
Crowder, tho, is a complete sperg macho manbaby.

People that about Ethan being a "coward" and whatnot... I'm sorry, are actually supposed to take these debates seriously? Nobody actually cares about what these two imbeciles say, right? Their arguments are shit and their knowledge is lacking. It's a sperging game. It is all for views and laughs, and I sure as hell laughed at Crowder being a total imbecile calling for his Dad. Also, isn't it funny how Crowder calls his dad by name to pretend he doesn't work with his dad?

Do you know what actually would have given Crowder credit? Actually debating and destroying Sam. He couldn't do it, tho, because he is just like Sargon of Akkad: he doesn't believe anything and doesn't know anything. I have yet to find a good explanation as to why Crowder didn't debate Sam. "If you come in expecting a mouse but you find a dog, are you the cowards?" That makes no sense to me, and it sounds like an excuse for Crowder being a loser. Why couldn't Crowder destroy Sam if he truly believed his arguments make sense? Unless Crowder is an idiot, of course, and has no chance of "beating" anything other than college students that don't know anything.

I, as a person who hasn't watched Ethan or Crowder in years, only saw Crowder being a complete farce and making a mockery out of himself.

Call me a lefty or whatever. Hell, I'm not even American. But all I saw were two losers, only one of the losers had his entire facade of macho man utterly destroyed by being a coward.

On one hand you're saying that these debates shouldn't be taken seriously but on the other hand you're advocating for Crowder to take the debate seriously and "destroy" Sam because obviously he should have taken this "offer" seriously otherwise he's a loser....That logic.

That would have given Crowder credit in your eyes but truth be told, the agreement was between Crowder and h3h3, h3h3 clearly forfeit by getting someone else to debate him.

Crowder WOULD be considered coward if he accepted offer to debate SAM and then chicken out. But that's what h3h3 did, he accepted the offer, agreed to conditions then, like the coward he is, ran to Sam to do arguing for him. It's the equivalent of two kids in school accepting to fight one and another after the school then the second kid gets an older, bigger brother to do fighting for him. Would the first kid be coward if he refused to accept that (new) offer?

IF Crowder was a loser for not debating him, then (according to your logic) he should be debating with every single person on the world (if they challenged him) otherwise he's a loser because obviously every single person on the world is ENTITLED to debating him.

"Call me a lefty or whatever. Hell, I'm not even American." You sound weird almost as if you're trying to potray yourself as a "tottaly not biased" person.

I'm not American either

 

[Maradontia]

Imagine being this invested in a tard argument about science between 2 non-scientists, one of whom has numbers in his name. What did you all think was going to happen?

 

[Self-Aware-Neckbeard]

On one hand you're saying that these debates shouldn't be taken seriously but on the other hand you're advocating for Crowder to take the debate seriously and "destroy" Sam because obviously he should have taken this "offer" seriously otherwise he's a loser....That logic.

That would have given Crowder credit in your eyes but truth be told, the agreement was between Crowder and h3h3, h3h3 clearly forfeit by getting someone else to debate him.

Crowder WOULD be considered coward if he accepted offer to debate SAM and then chickened out. But that's what h3h3 did, he accepted the offer then, like a coward he is, ran to Sam. It's equivalent of two kids in school accepting to fight one and another after the school then the second kid gets an older brother to do fighting for him.

IF Crowder was a loser for not debating him, then (according to your logic) he should be debating with every single person on the world (if they challenged him) otherwise he's a loser because obviously every single person on the world is ENTITLED to debating him.

"Call me a lefty or whatever. Hell, I'm not even American." You sound weird almost as if you're trying to potray yourself as a "tottaly not biased" person.

I'm not American either - does that mean I'm automatically not a lefty?

I'm sorry, can you pretend not to be retarded for a moment?

Yes, I'm not biased as the jackasses in this thread dedicated to shitting on Ethan because I do not frequent this thread. I came by hoping that they would stop being drooling morons for a moment and recognize things for what they are: that Ethan actually did a funny thing by humiliating Crowder. I am disappointed.

Clearly, their faggot audiences take this seriously, as shown by their adherence to their internet daddies. If Crowder wanted to truly destroy the left as he does to college students, then maybe he should man up and do it any lefty, unless he can't deal with even pseudo-intellectuals, because he doesn't actually know shit. Crowder is a coward because he is actually fleeing Sam whoever the fuck his name is, even changing his schedule to it, and editing out his challenges to Sam.

If Crowder really is a man, then he should be able to debate any little faggot lefty he finds. No one is entitled to his time, but anyone can mock him for being a faggot. Anyone can mock him for anything, in fact. I personally find it ridiculous that anyone can take him seriously. If the image he passed was that of a pretender comedian, that would be fine. But no, this is the man who got decked by a union worker for being a sped.

I'm not a lefty because the left is different in each country, you exceptional being. American left or right is not Asian, European, or South American left or right.

 

[Flamenco]

If Crowder publicly challenged Cedar now, it would be an undeniable W for him and a massive L for Ethan, regardless of outcome.

 

[kiwiburgerplanet]

I can't help but feel like Ethan only picked this fight with Crowder knowing full well it was ez money. Just bait him into a debate, pull Sedar in, and watch the money roll in as Crowder spergs out. Essentially, Ethan's taken what he's learned with Frienemies and applied it to other people, knowing full well he can have his cake and eat it too if need be.

It was crowder apparently. Picked on a clip that H3 did. From there they went at it on twitter and set up a 'debate'. It was so cringe. Apparently, they were supposed to debate before but they (crowder) knew Sedar might come on since he ended his show earlier. He then 'rescheduled'. Crowder's reaction was just fucking cringe. Cowardly Crowder ended up taking the Camera off him and bringing on some fat manlet. Despite that, it just devolved in to a yelling match. Crowder like others have said could have continued, by leaving he placed the ball in Sedar and Ethan's court, where Ethan explained he's not informed; he's not smart; if crowder wants to debate why not do it with someone that is. That makes sense.

 

[ManletPower]

Yes, I'm not biased as the jackasses in this thread dedicated to shitting on Ethan because I do not frequent this thread. I came by hoping that they would stop being drooling morons for a moment and recognize things for what they are: that Ethan actually did a funny thing by humiliating Crowder. I am disappointed.

Of course you are bias dumbass, you literally came here to attack Crowder and him "not knowing jack shit". At least I'm not pretending to be unbias unlike you. Learn how to formulate your arguments dumbass and learn what's the meaning of being "bias".

Clearly, their faggot audiences take this seriously, as shown by their adherence to their internet daddies. If Crowder wanted to truly destroy the left as he does to college students, then maybe he should man up and do it any lefty, unless he can't deal with even pseudo-intellectuals, because he doesn't actually know shit. Crowder is a coward because he is actually fleeing Sam whoever the fuck his name is, even changing his schedule to it, and editing out his challenges to Sam.

Never said the audience doesnt' take them seriously, again - you either have comprehension issues or you're just retarded. You have failed to demonstrate his "fear", he didn't appear to politicon because he wants nothing to do with politicion, period. Nothing to do with Sam. I'm not even watching Crowder but it's hilarious how a retard like you, that claims to be non bias, fails to understand basic concepts like that.

I'm not a lefty because the left is different in each country, you exceptional being. American left or right is not Asian, European, or South American left or right.

You can be lefty and from Europe, you complete utter dumbass. Lefty is a person with left-wing political views and the word started being used for people online that tend to hold left leaning views or extreme left leaning views. Has nothing to do with being exclusively American.

 

[kiwiburgerplanet]

If you're asked to make a chair, do you give them a folding chair you bought for cheap at the store? Again, the debate request was sent to Ethan, not Sam. Ethan's "own" over Crowder just shows Ethan cannot and will not fight for himself.

Using that same analogy, you're not getting a cheap chair with sam you would be with Ethan, your getting the luxury recliner with sam. Crowder is a coward. He picks easy targets. He ran his mouth; sperged out; and ran away.

 

[ManletPower]

Using that same analogy, you're not getting a cheap chair with sam you would be with Ethan, your getting the luxury recliner with sam. Crowder is a coward. He picks easy targets. He ran his mouth; sperged out; and ran away.

That's wrong analogy. You are asking for a certain deal and if you're not getting the deal you asked for - who is anyone to say you should accept extra/alternative deal?

You are only assuming that the extra/alternative deal is "luxury" but that's according to you. But according to someone else, that "luxury" extra deal can be nothing else but a leech and said leech would only benefit from it. What if you don't want the leech to benefit from it? Completely reasonable

 

[Hüftpriester]

Crowder is a repressed faggot and a barely functioning retard but Ethan and Sam are eternal Jews. To people wonder who why Jews are universally despised, look no further than these 2.

 

[kiwiburgerplanet]

Eh, I frankly believe this is a W for Ethan, and I'll even give him props for that.

Ethan is a boring little shitfaced cunt, yeah. I don't even watch his content for the same reason I don't watch the Quartering: they have so little charisma it fuels my suicidal tendencies.
Crowder, tho, is a complete sperg macho manbaby.

People that about Ethan being a "coward" and whatnot... I'm sorry, are actually supposed to take these debates seriously? Nobody actually cares about what these two imbeciles say, right? Their arguments are shit and their knowledge is lacking. It's a sperging game. It is all for views and laughs, and I sure as hell laughed at Crowder being a total imbecile calling for his Dad. Also, isn't it funny how Crowder calls his dad by name to pretend he doesn't work with his dad?

Do you know what actually would have given Crowder credit? Actually debating and destroying Sam. He couldn't do it, tho, because he is just like Sargon of Akkad: he doesn't believe anything and doesn't know anything. I have yet to find a good explanation as to why Crowder didn't debate Sam. "If you come in expecting a mouse but you find a dog, are you the cowards?" That makes no sense to me, and it sounds like an excuse for Crowder being a loser. Why couldn't Crowder destroy Sam if he truly believed his arguments make sense? Unless Crowder is an idiot, of course, and has no chance of "beating" anything other than college students that don't know anything.

I, as a person who hasn't watched Ethan or Crowder in years, only saw Crowder being a complete farce and making a mockery out of himself.

Call me a lefty or whatever. Hell, I'm not even American. But all I saw were two losers, only one of the losers had his entire facade of macho man utterly destroyed by being a coward.

Good points on Crowder's false machoism. Guy has gun holsters, why? It's so cringe. He also brought on some fat manlet, like fucking handle yourself dude.

On one hand you're saying that these debates shouldn't be taken seriously but on the other hand you're advocating for Crowder to take the debate seriously and "destroy" Sam because obviously he should have taken this "offer" seriously otherwise he's a loser....That logic.

That would have given Crowder credit in your eyes but truth be told, the agreement was between Crowder and h3h3, h3h3 clearly forfeit by getting someone else to debate him.

Crowder WOULD be considered coward if he accepted offer to debate SAM and then chicken out. But that's what h3h3 did, he accepted the offer, agreed to conditions then, like the coward he is, ran to Sam to do arguing for him. It's the equivalent of two kids in school accepting to fight one and another after the school then the second kid gets an older, bigger brother to do fighting for him. Would the first kid be coward if he refused to accept that (new) offer?

IF Crowder was a loser for not debating him, then (according to your logic) he should be debating with every single person on the world (if they challenged him) otherwise he's a loser because obviously every single person on the world is ENTITLED to debating him.

"Call me a lefty or whatever. Hell, I'm not even American." You sound weird almost as if you're trying to potray yourself as a "tottaly not biased" person.

I'm not American either

Yeah. Crowder challenged Ethan to a debate. Ethan who's a fat mediocre comedian vs Crowder who is an untalented comedian that does this political BS. Why would anyone be invested in that? No one cares about this agreement, it was a debate, debates are based on the merit of an idea. Crowder buy being an absolute pussy show's that he is a coward but that his point of view also has no merit, thus he has no merit. The semantics of who he is debating are important only in the regard of view of Ethan and Sam have the same view, but one is more informed than the other.

You talk about logic here, let's be clear steven challenged H3 to a debate. Does that make him entitled to a debate with h3? And really what purpose would that serve? The guy's not a political commentator like crowder. Sam challenged crowder to a debate which he ducked. Apparently, he also ducked H3 suspecting Sam would be on.

I'm of the view that if you're going to take an opposing viewpoint you're not entitled to pick your battles that is some pussy shit. That's what crowder did, because he's afraid of losing, In this case it's worse he ran away without even fighting or defending his ideas.

 

[Rabidcolombian]

Yes, I'm not biased as the jackasses in this thread dedicated to shitting on Ethan because I do not frequent this thread. I came by hoping that they would stop being drooling morons for a moment and recognize things for what they are: that Ethan actually did a funny thing by humiliating Crowder. I am disappointed.

I also expected better from you all - this being a respectable forum dedicated to documenting lolcows. But I guess I was wrong...

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

So hes bizzaro verse Ethan Ralph?

Ethan Ralph at least has interesting cohosts and callers to dunk on. Klein not so much

 

[Velanna]

Regardless, bringing someone else to your debate is an automatic loss on your part. How is this even a win for Ethan?

 

[ManletPower]

Yeah. Crowder challenged Ethan to a debate. Ethan who's a fat mediocre comedian vs Crowder who is an untalented comedian that does this political BS. Why would anyone be invested in that? No one cares about this agreement, it was a debate, debates are based on the merit of an idea. Crowder buy being an absolute pussy show's that he is a coward but that his point of view also has no merit, thus he has no merit. The semantics of who he is debating are important only in the regard of view of Ethan and Sam have the same view, but one is more informed than the other.

You talk about logic here, let's be clear steven challenged H3 to a debate. Does that make him entitled to a debate with h3? And really what purpose would that serve? The guy's not a political commentator like crowder. Sam challenged crowder to a debate which he ducked. Apparently, he also ducked H3 suspecting Sam would be on.

I'm of the view that if you're going to take an opposing viewpoint you're not entitled to pick your battles that is some pussy shit. That's what crowder did, because he's afraid of losing, In this case it's worse he ran away without even fighting or defending his ideas.

Wrong. Views aka engagement says otherwise. You're assuming something that does not interest you, is of no interest to others. Kim Kardashian Show begs to differ.


Again, it does not make Steven entitled to a debate but h3 obviously accepted the offer by appearing (it does not matter if he's political commentator or not and OBVIOUSLY he decided himself to get political by making response and defamation videos about Crowder) and then CHICKENED out by refusing to defend his own ideas. The offer was 1 on 1 debate, not 1 on 2 or 1 on 6. That is why your chair analogy is false because both actors have accepted under said conditions and H3 was too scared to defend said views under predefined conditions.

"I'm of the view that if you're going to take an opposing viewpoint you're not entitled to pick your battles that is some pussy shit. "
That actually works in favor of my point. H3h3 HAS opposing viewpoint yet chose the battle for him (him with Sam on his side) and felt ENTITLED that this is the battle he is entitled to have.

Let's sum it up - Steven picked opposing view to Ethan's and this is why he has offered Ethan to debate those said views 1 on 1. The offer has been clear. According to you, if Steven Crowder appeared and 10 people were on the other line shouting N words and screaming at him, Steven would be a coward if he decided to bail out. But it's quite the opposite and h3h3 has been the coward in all of this because he wanted a 1 on 2 debate because he's spineless.

" He also brought on some fat manlet, like fucking handle yourself dude."
You mean like bringing someone else to do debating for you? Yeah I know

 

[quickthrowaway]

How dare an internet gossip forum care about a person with a thread getting into internet slap fights.

 

[Wintersun]

This thread is reeking of Sargon-level spergery right now. Whether or not you have your political lean validated by Crowder or Seder, it doesn't matter. What's important is that we're watching and documenting three retards in a verbal slapfight.

 

[ManletPower]

How dare an internet gossip forum care about a person with a thread getting into internet slap fights.

People that wanna be judgmental about it are usually trying to portray themselves as morally righteous above all.

But not on my watch, I won every online debate so far.

And if you disagree - debate me on @Flamenco live stream. I go by the name of "roveltin".

 

[StevieLasVegas]

Using that same analogy, you're not getting a cheap chair with sam you would be with Ethan, your getting the luxury recliner with sam. Crowder is a coward. He picks easy targets. He ran his mouth; sperged out; and ran away.

You're missing the point. If you hire someone, or in the case of the topic send a rebuttal debate against a slob who started the whole spergfest, and they try giving you someone else's effort because they can't be arsed to do anything themselves, then why bother paying them any time?

Yeah. Crowder challenged Ethan to a debate. Ethan who's a fat mediocre comedian vs Crowder who is an untalented comedian that does this political BS. Why would anyone be invested in that? No one cares about this agreement, it was a debate, debates are based on the merit of an idea. Crowder buy being an absolute pussy show's that he is a coward but that his point of view also has no merit, thus he has no merit. The semantics of who he is debating are important only in the regard of view of Ethan and Sam have the same view, but one is more informed than the other.

You talk about logic here, let's be clear steven challenged H3 to a debate. Does that make him entitled to a debate with h3? And really what purpose would that serve? The guy's not a political commentator like crowder. Sam challenged crowder to a debate which he ducked. Apparently, he also ducked H3 suspecting Sam would be on.

I'm of the view that if you're going to take an opposing viewpoint you're not entitled to pick your battles that is some pussy shit. That's what crowder did, because he's afraid of losing, In this case it's worse he ran away without even fighting or defending his ideas.

The debate wasn't about politics. The prose timeline is that Ethan claimed Crowder doesn't know what he's talking about on the WuFlu since he's not a doctor, so after some shit-flinging on both sides, Crowder on camera offered Ethan and Ethan alone (key fucking word there) after Ethan "allegedly" lied about Crowder reaching out to him earlier a chance to debate over the Ethan's opinions on Crowder's words, stance on the WuFlu and ability research his talking points. By bringing Seder in to a one on one debate, Ethan showed he's far more of a coward than Crowder because he couldn't even attempt to defend his own fucking words. Any rational person, regardless of their opinion on either person, can see this as Ethan being spineless. Yes, Crowder was in the wrong to get angry on cam about it, but he is in the right to walk off since Ethan couldn't follow the simple request of doing a one on one to fight or defend his own ideas. You know. The very thing Crowder didn't do or get to do.

 

[Josterman]

Looks another breadtuber/TYT associate the humanist report had his thoughts and they were pretty much copium