Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

Who would win in a fight?

  • Ethan Klein

    Votes: 324 4.2%
  • Sam Hyde

    Votes: 7,325 95.8%

  • Total voters
    7,649
Only Sam Seder looks good out of this. The only bad part for Seder not realizing that PolitiCon could have lied to him about Crowder backing out (Pakman attested to this possibility with his own experience).
Are you shitting me? Sam Seder looked so out of place there, and most normies don't even know who Sam Seder is. Only leftists know about the "Everyone is afraid to debate Sam Seder" meme, everyone else has no idea why this is funny or why leftists are crowing about Sam Seder showing up. His cackling afterwards like he owned Steven on H3's stream made him look even more retarded and childish, which doesn't even fit with his typical demeanor during his boring ass show. Sam Seder by virtue of showing up to this retardation made himself look like some desperate grifter.
 
My understanding was that his channel was busy dying out, which led him to creating Frenemies to get those Trisha alogs to start watching him. I guess he jew-ed himself out of frenemies, so not sure what his next gimmick is going to be.

He apparently managed to cozy up to Hasan with his publicity stunt so I assume he's going to start latching on to leftyTwitch/breadtube personalities.
 
Are you shitting me? Sam Seder looked so out of place there, and most normies don't even know who Sam Seder is. Only leftists know about the "Everyone is afraid to debate Sam Seder" meme, everyone else has no idea why this is funny or why leftists are crowing about Sam Seder showing up. His cackling afterwards like he owned Steven on H3's stream made him look even more retarded and childish, which doesn't even fit with his typical demeanor during his boring ass show. Sam Seder by virtue of showing up to this retardation made himself look like some desperate grifter.
Sam Seder looks out of place because he wasnt even fucking invited to be there to begin with. I dont get why he is cackling like he owned anything -- all that happened was he got snuck on and Crowder left. All that shows is a net positive for Seder because:

1) He gets more presence -- between Crowder and Klein
2) He can spin the narrative that Crowder is afraid of him.

That is why I said its a net win for him. Even if he wants to grift with Ethan, Ethan's larger audience will start to mix over with Seder (which is larger exposure).

Crowder tracking his show doesn't strike me as the epic own everyone keeps saying it is. I mean this very event proved that he was correct in assuming Sam and Ethan would try to set something like this up, the only way they got away with it was being tricky. It was a funny troll and I'll laugh at it for what it is, but it's not some slam dunk which makes anyone appear weak or wrong or anything. Lefties celebrating this are just desperate for a win while each and every one of them does exactly what Crowder does. There's a list as long as your fucking arm about all the people Vaush refuses to engage with, and if anyone talks about it they're banned. If any one of these hacks went in for a debate and saw even a dope like Gavin McInnes swing in they would abandon ship and say how they didn't agree to it.
If Crowder is smart (lol) he'll actually have the debate with Sam Seder just to put it to bed. The whole thing seems like a work to build this sort of thing up, but it's not like Seder is some sort of genius he's just a jewier and less interesting Jimmy Dore.

Because it can be spun for narrative -- Ethan's larger platform combined with Crowder bailing and that admittance can be spun to that message.

I think ultimately -- Crowder needs to publicly challenge Seder to a debate now or else that narrative will continue to be spun. Ball is in Crowder's court completely. I also dont buy into the idea of Crowder ducking Seder either. I think thats some hardcore cope by Seder and his audience.

If I hard to choose who comes out worse -- Its Ethan. Crowder was entirely justified in jumping ship after Ethan broke 'contract'.

Where is crowder saying he was tracking the show? Isn't that what ethan said? He said on the debate stream the reason he knew was that seeder was an idiot and his staff hate him, implying one of them came to him to tell him about it.
I think the general idea was: Someone from Seder's team informed Crowder that Seder might ambush him in Ethan's interview -- which (allegedly) had Crowder track Seder's show.
 
Btw, for those who don’t know, Seder is a pedo apologist who fantasizes about his own daughter being raped by Jewish Hollywood elite ACE02D2B-2AE0-4E14-A288-ADC7A949FDB8.jpeg
 
It was funny how the whole unoriginal lefty sphere (Hasan, Vaush, random breadtubers,...) all piled up on this situation desperately trying to make this thing bigger than it is. I mean even Destiny, who's a lefty, mentioned it's funny how people like Hasan say they dont care about debates or think they're stupid but really, they do, but only if it's their own side "WINNING". I haven't seen right content creators even acknowledge this much (on youtube at least) besides making a tweet. TheQuartering is a special case who's desperate for YT content anyways.

I'm going to make few predictions and I think they're pretty realistic. What will happen is the following:
- Sam Seder is going to go back to having 5k-40k views per video(which is pathetic for a channel with over millon subs).
- Other breadtubers will go back to their old boring content which will become more stagnant and suffer in views. No more Trump around, Crowder was their chance for the extra "DESTROY the RIGHT!!" reactionary content they've been desperately trying to get nowadays. Now they're back to having to produce their own content which they evidently suck at, "REACTING TO" was pretty much their whole unoriginal niche.
- H3h3 will probably try to get political, perhaps collab with breadtubers but he'll see it's not doable views-wise after seeing that he was portrayed as an untrustworthy snake that the right content creators probably wont even engage with. And nobody is going to follow him for his political views as he is evidently too scared to even debate them or challenge them.

Some people on this thread have been trying to entertain the idea that Crowder should actually get back at Seder and debate him but I kind of hold different opinion.
It's like a sports fighter fighting a fighter that's lower on the ladder and the only one that has to gain is the lower fighter that is trying to bait him into fight by trash talking. The people that are parroting Crowder is THE BIG COWARD THAT GOT DESTROYED are mostly leftoids but as it is evident, they're desperate for "REACT TO" or "GETS DESTROYED!!!" content. I personally would welcome this clown fiesta and if they want views, it's a no brainer. However Crowder seems to be getting his own content with Biden being the president so... It's really up to him if he wants to give them the content they want but yeah.. that was my take.
 
It was funny how the whole unoriginal lefty sphere (Hasan, Vaush, random breadtubers,...) all piled up on this situation desperately trying to make this thing bigger than it is. I mean even Destiny, who's a lefty, mentioned it's funny how people like Hasan say they dont care about debates or think they're stupid but really, they do, but only if it's their own side "WINNING". I haven't seen right content creators even acknowledge this much (on youtube at least) besides making a tweet. TheQuartering is a special case who's desperate for YT content anyways.

I'm going to make few predictions and I think they're pretty realistic. What will happen is the following:
- Sam Seder is going to go back to having 5k-40k views per video(which is pathetic for a channel with over millon subs).
- Other breadtubers will go back to their old boring content which will become more stagnant and suffer in views. No more Trump around, Crowder was their chance for the extra "DESTROY the RIGHT!!" reactionary content they've been desperately trying to get nowadays. Now they're back to having to produce their own content which they evidently suck at, "REACTING TO" was pretty much their whole unoriginal niche.
- H3h3 will probably try to get political, perhaps collab with breadtubers but he'll see it's not doable views-wise after seeing that he was portrayed as an untrustworthy snake that the right content creators probably wont even engage with. And nobody is going to follow him for his political views as he is evidently too scared to even debate them or challenge them.

Some people on this thread have been trying to entertain the idea that Crowder should actually get back at Seder and debate him but I kind of hold different opinion.
It's like a sports fighter fighting a fighter that's lower on the ladder and the only one that has to gain is the lower fighter that is trying to bait him into fight by trash talking. The people that are parroting Crowder is THE BIG COWARD THAT GOT DESTROYED are mostly leftoids but as it is evident, they're desperate for "REACT TO" or "GETS DESTROYED!!!" content. I personally would welcome this clown fiesta and if they want views, it's a no brainer. However Crowder seems to be getting his own content with Biden being the president so... It's really up to him if he wants to give them the content they want but yeah.. that was my take.
Even if (((Ethan Klein)))'s attempt at striking down Crowder works and he migrates to Bitchute, in the end the drama will stagnate, the breadtubers will stop treating him like a messiah, and he will need another prey for more clout to delay the inevitable death of his career.
 
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They are disagreeing on politics, but their shitty humour are the same.
There was a time years ago when dudes crossdressing could actually be funny if it was done right. Today I immediately disregard just about anyone who is doing so, I can't believe they took this from us. For instance when Trey Parker and Matt Stone showed up to the Oscar's on acid and never once acknowledged the dresses, that was a funny fucking bit. Kind of off-topic but I think this whenever seeing Ethan indulge his fetish live on air.

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There was a time years ago when dudes crossdressing could actually be funny if it was done right. Today I immediately disregard just about anyone who is doing so, I can't believe they took this from us. For instance when Trey Parker and Matt Stone showed up to the Oscar's on acid and never once acknowledged the dresses, that was a funny fucking bit. Kind of off-topic but I think this whenever seeing Ethan indulge his fetish live on air.

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Imagine if Ethan put effort into his humor...

Wait, I can't as it is impossible.
 
Its from 12 years ago and was a joke, yes. Notice he cropped out the date and the context of why someone would say something that edgy.
Why are you giving people the benefit of the doubt who think you should be censored, gulag'd and even die for your politics? Sam Seder is a grifting, pro-establishment kike who would label you a nazi if he found a decade old jew joke on your social media. Your principles are a weakness. I guess I'm having my cake and eating it, too, but if you want to act super principled, some things are sacred like the relationship between a man and his daughter and no normal person would even think about making a joke like that, let alone posting it on fucking twitter. Polanski is a legit child rapist. I don't really care about the context, but please enlighten us all. I really hope it magically exonerates Seder, but I somehow doubt it.
 
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