Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

Slightly off topic, but Dan Howell? I remember when he and his pal Phil Lester were at the height of their popularity as comedy Youtubers, I knew there was something off about them as they did seem to appeal to the Tumblr addicted, woke teenage girl audience, then the whole coming out thing happened and rather than just being gay but not making a big deal of it (both Dan and Phil are IIRC, but they aren’t/weren’t an item) they leaned into the whole LGBT identity politics thing and used cringeworthy terms like “baby queer” (meaning a person who’s newly out). So it’s no surprise Dan and Olly are in cahoots with one another.
Christ, how many of these bugpeople actually exist? I was blissfully unaware of people like Lindsay Ellis or Jim Sterling before YouTube started its propaganda crusade. The worst experience was with the tranny Mia Mulder some years ago. He appeared to me like a cheap Ikea (You know, because he's Swedish) version of ContraPoints and actually was helding a flowerpot while speaking like a retard in one of his videos.

Long time lurker here. Found a clip posted by an attendee on Instagram

Haha there are some great screenshots to collect:

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Too bad you can't hide your most mannish facial features and body parts like on Instragram with a filter :'( Reality is a harsh mistress.

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But keep chasing that dragon, you crazy sophist butterfly <3

As far as I know male bone structure is rougher than the one of females. Hence it's much easier to add something to your bones to make them look more masculine (facial hair or even make-up), but the opposite is much harder (You can't really conceal a rough and steep forehead. Even shaving it off has its limits and often looks unnatural). The only exception I can think of is the remodeling of your genitalia. It's more difficult to make a penis out of a vagina than the opposite. But whether cutting of the muscles of your penis and inserting the remains of your penis into a man-made hole (that was created by burning down tissue) is an entirely different question.
 
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I had to pause it when the microphone died because it was too embarrassing.
He really thinks he is Martin Luther King Jr for troons. This is priceless and I cannot believe it's not a comedy sketch.
Bit of a powerlevel but I had a bunch of friends go to Trans Pride yesterday and asked them about it.

They gushed about Munroe Bergdorf (who got the whole of Soho Square chanting "Fuck The Tories") and Bimini Bon Boulash (Rupaul's Drag Race UK finalist) and said there were a couple of trans people they were peripherally aware of (one who talked about their experience in a mens prison, and a singer who did some good songs apparently). There was also a heartfelt tribute to SOPHIE, and a bunch of other speakers/performances (there was a poetry performance they especially liked).

They didn't even mention "Abigail" until I asked about "her". So much for being the most famous trans person in the UK :story:

Anyway general reception was "oh yeah I remember her, she gave a speech" and vaguely positive noises, but no glowing commendation of how great the speech was. One of my mates rolled his eyes and said he'd noticed Abigail had been schmoozing and networking in a really blatant way. Only one of them had heard of the PhilosophyTube channel, and she was unaware "Abigail" was PhilosophyTube or that "the host of the videos" had transitioned.
 
Christ, how many of these bugpeople actually exist? I was blissfully unaware of people like Lindsay Ellis or Jim Sterling before YouTube started its propaganda crusade. The worst experience was with the tranny Mia Mulder some years ago. He appeared to me like a cheap Ikea (You know, because he's Swedish) version of ContraPoints and actually was helding a flowerpot while speaking like a retard.



Haha there are some great screenshots to collect:

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Too bad you can't hide your most mannish facial features and body parts like on Instragram with a filter :'( Reality is a harsh mistress.



As far as I know male bone structure is rougher than the one of females. Hence it's much easier to add something to your bones to make them look more masculine (facial hair or even make-up), but the opposite is much harder (You can't really conceal a rough and steep forehead. Even shaving it off has its limits and often looks unnatural). The only exception I can think of is the remodeling of your genitalia. It's more difficult to make a penis out of a vagina than the opposite. But whether cutting of the muscles of your penis and inserting the remains of your penis into a man-made hole (that was created by burning down tissue) is an entirely different question.
Is he actually wearing a laurel?

The choice of dress is already rather pretentious for a Pride event, but it looks like that he is LARP’ing as a Empress. True delusions of grandeur for all to see, hilarious.

Ugh, Bergdorf is also a pretentious twat. Privileged gaylord, yelling at Tories. And water is wet.
 
Too bad you can't hide your most mannish facial features and body parts like on Instragram with a filter :'( Reality is a harsh mistress.
Don't give them any ideas. In the future they will implant your eyeballs with gender affirming technology - turn any man into a real woman, turn any axe wound into a real vagina. I'm not sure how they're going to deal with the smell though.
 
Is he actually wearing a laurel?

The choice of dress is already rather pretentious for a Pride event, but it looks like that he is LARP’ing as a Empress. True delusions of grandeur for all to see, hilarious.

Ugh, Bergdorf is also a pretentious twat. Privileged gaylord, yelling at Tories. And water is wet.
I've noticed Olly has a penchant for the sort of stuff you find by typing "bridal hair accessory" into ASOS. You'll definitely find stuff like that laurel wreath and the below on there.
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I'll grant Olly this - his outfits aren't eye searingly bad. He's just going for a different sort of "skirt go spinny", which is buying formal things that your average woman wouldn't wear all that frequently (similar vibe to Jessica Yaniv having an array of ballgowns).
That dress doesn't fit him though, he's too tall for it (it's probably supposed to hit at least mid thigh) and the fabric on the sleeves is puckering weirdly.
 
Long time lurker here. Found a clip posted by an attendee on Instagram
fuck me. thats some Nuremburg energy right there.

troonslate that into german lmao, the delivery, holy shit.
-or maybe oswald moseley? at least hitler wasnt a posh cunt lol.
body language looking like he gonna smack a bitch
fuck, the fists in the air, repeated trans power thing at the end. white power mythical posturing. holy shit he is blind.
notions of superiority isnt about historical wrong-righting and everyone having a turn.
its disgusting and dangerous whoever its lense is on.

also, i literally just threw away one of my nicest dresses because it shrank and ended up fitting like that one.

THAT BRAND NEW, MUCH DISCUSSED BY YOU, DRESS DOES NOT FIT, OLLY.

(it was also nicer)
(it also cost £1 from a carboot)

'i dont know if im gonna have an acting career tomorrow if i tell the truth about what its like to be trans'
bitch you didnt have one before, you do now, because trendy.
'there is power in this.' you dont say.
'my doctor wont treat me' you dont say, again! maybe come back in 6 months from your first ever demand for a rack, like he said .
 
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Regarding Olly’s choice of hair accessories he talks in one of the livestreams about being “an Athena, not an Aphrodite,” so I’m assuming he’s going for some Greek LARP as a warrior Princess.

Nice chant of “fuck that bitch” or whatever in his speech. Keep it classy, London Pride.

I just think back to Contra sitting on Theryn’s couch in a notorious live stream and giggling over how “hot” Oliver is. I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Contra views this speech. Contra should do a postscript on his “Cringe” video of what it’s like when your “hawt” Chad boyfriend turns out to be this insane rabid troon oaf screaming like a lunatic in a Wonder Woman dress or whatever. I think it literally might be the funniest thing I’ve ever seen, as others have said. How humiliating for Contra.

Meanwhile Abighoul is still doing his retarded, infantile tee hee hee-ing about his “love life.”

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why does he think his followers care about who he is fucking?!
why act like this??
are any of the replies playing along being baited into speculation?
if anyone deserves gettinga. fucked up stink ditch and not being able to fuck ever again, its him. but he wont. and we knwo why
(side note i think all trannies should never bother with 'bottom surgery', just drink your own kool aid and dont give af that a woman has a dick or whatever)
he is the only one i'd advise it to

just went for a gander, and saw people blithley playing along, talking about thier own nobodies.
nobody fuckingcares.
anyway, saw this, lol.
 

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This is the funniest fucking thing I’ve ever seen. He legitimately looks like some Scottish warrior. This sounds like a monologue from Highlander.
He actually reminded me more of a born-again Christian. I mean his "speech" was almost religious: "Being trans energized me!"

an Athena, not an Aphrodite

Ollie, be a good leftist and stop appropriating a culture that isn't yours. Your English posh ass is as far away as it can get form a mostly Near Eastern descendant population like the Greeks. But the BreadTube's obsession with Ancient Greece is nothing new. HontraPoints constantly abuses Greek art and culture for his videos. But he is of course not a Western supremacist, because he's doing it "ironically".


I just think back to Contra sitting on Theryn’s couch in a notorious live stream and giggling over how “hot” Oliver is. I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Contra views this speech. Contra should do a postscript on his “Cringe” video of what it’s like when your “hawt” Chad boyfriend turns out to be this insane rabid troon oaf screaming like a lunatic in a Wonder Woman dress or whatever. I think it literally might be the funniest thing I’ve ever seen, as others have said. How humiliating for Contra.
I'm still surprised that nobody made a picture of Contra as Victor Frankenstein and Ollie as Frankenstein's monster yet.
 
Someone uploaded the whole speech, it's 7 minutes long.
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A few thoughts:
  • I don't know what Olly means about his doctor refusing to treat him and making him use a "segregated healthcare system". A GP will write a referral to specialists when it's something they can't handle - so perhaps he's talking about having to go to one of the 8 NHS gender dysphoria clinics. That's not exclusive to being trans though - if you've got depression, they'll refer you to IAPT. Rhinitis? You've got to go to an Ear, Nose and Throat clinic. Foot pain? Chiropodist. That's a good thing, because GPs don't have the expertise needed to handle it, and you don't even need a clinical assessment prior to being referred to a gender dysphoria clinic. If the GP refuses to prescribe following the recommendations of the clinic, that's malpractice and you can sue.

  • There's no need to "beg and scrape for permission to get married". The UK has had civil marriage equality since 2014, which means you can marry any gender and transitioning after getting married won't dissolve your marriage like it used to. The only thing he could possibly mean is that without a gender recognition certificate you'll be granted a marriage certificate based on your legal gender (so Olly would legally be classed as a "husband", but that's literally only going to come up in legal terminology in specific situations, and has no material impact). Also Contrapoints isn't going to marry you, Olly, so you don't need to worry.

  • Being roughed up by a copper during a protest isn't anything to do with being trans. I've not heard of Olly getting roughed up by a copper (much less one wearing a rainbow pride badge) and I feel like he would have mentioned it, unless it happened on the day (but from what I've heard there were not any police incidents on the march, and generally the way they deal with these sorts of protests - i.e. marches that are mostly middle class people having a day out - is just to kettle them).

  • Hilarious how he lowers the mic to prompt for applause or laughter.

  • "This is my life and I will be the mistress of it" 🙄

  • Of course Olly did a thespian bow at the end of the speech.
I reckon he thinks this little moment is going to go viral, but it won't. I can see why my mates didn't remember him, this is like an AI generated composite of the sorts of speeches you get at these events. He pandered to the crowd and said a bunch of positive affirmations, just in a way that he probably thought sounded incredibly profound. Chanting "fuck that bitch" in reference to Liz Truss is fair enough though.
 
Long time lurker here. Found a clip posted by an attendee on Instagram
Fucking hell, OG Shakespearean - written by a man, played by a man ( or ham in this case)
Someone uploaded the whole speech, it's 7 minutes long.
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So to see Olly in what should be his community I think we can take pretty solidly his "transition" is some headfuck role of a lifetime for an unsuccessful actor. The I, not in anyway a speechwritting tool of universalism but an absolute rant at the GP who would not sign off on his cross sex hormones. He can still access them, he may have to pay like folk do for botox and other elective toxic procedures, he needs to get over himself (would happily contribute to cover costs of such). But to the point that even amongst his ideological siblings he regurgitates the bbc interview shite with and added "trans power" call out. This is a wealthy lost dude who cannot accept the top spot and is seeking out and creating some idea of repression - same old patriarchy and although I am not fond of the phrase I think it would an accurate application of white fragility.

On a snarky note, his dress is way to short to pass and bra badly stuffed, his stance is hilariously that of a man and when he rests his hand on his higher thigh, is that suppose to be his hip?

Fuck off Olly, first and last pride , why did you never turn up and wave your Bisexual flag???
 
Just a thought about Olly thinking himself the most famous trains-man in the UK and the speculation that he did it to improve his acting career - What's he going to do about Rebecca Root? Will Olly really do well competing for roles against someone else trans who has been in big stuff like Queen's Gambit, The Danish Girl, Colette, The Sisters Brothers, and Last Christmas and is staring in their own TV show?

Also my favourite part of his Pride speech was when he said "It should be illegal for Contrapoints to not have sex with me"
 
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