Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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I got a couple of stories like this.

First one, Friend A, was a guy I met in middle school. Weeby autist

The second, Friend B, was a guy I met around the time A came out as "agender". He was similar, a weeb and an autist with whom I bonded over

But for real how the fuck did this become my life
I feel for you man, but- there's def a pathology thats infecting tons of people, and it hits the weeby type especially hard moreso than others. Tbh, Ive got theories Im not going to go into here, but could just be the issue that anime has become incredibly moe influenced, isekei soaked, and theres just too much hentai now
 
I've met about 3 that eventually trooned out


one was this wannabe game designer who eventually trooned out and became a suicidal wreck most likely trooned out due to family issues

one was this autist twitter dude who trooned out likely due to outside influence

might be more but i'm not sure
 
My fiance's youngest sister. She's going down the nonbinary route but with how my mom in law accepts it this kid may end up going down deeper into this lunacy. It sadly started when this girl was only around ten, but it first started as "coming out as a lesbian" even though the kid hasn't really given a shit about doing anything but hide in her room watching dumb youtube/tiktok shit. It evolved into the trans bullshit once puberty started to affect her. It's obvious she's just uncomfortable, but no, god forbid you try to tell this kid otherwise.

Despite being "nonbinary" and wanting to be called a they/them, she doesn't do anything to make herself look less feminine. It's all e-girl fashion or stupid cosplay shit relating to Danganronpa. Worst part in my opinion? The girl doesn't wash her fucking hair. I've seen it be an absolute greaseball of a dyed mess and the most she'll say about it is how she "doesn't know what to do about it."

I just want to scream.
This is basically what happened to my sister. She was a tomboy, started watching Tiktok and declared she was a lesbian, then several months later started calling herself non-binary.
 
What do you guys think would be the most reliable cure for transgenderism? I would say the most obvious things would be things like permanent disconnect from the internet, don't go to university and so on, but there's one thing that I don't see too many people talk about and that's religious conversion.
I'm quite interested in hearing the stories of people who either detransition or get away from SJW politics and one thing that frequently comes up is they decided to get away from it around the same time they find faith, predominantly Christianity, not surprising since most of this stuff all happens within the Christian Anglo-sphere anyway.

We've all heard the take that can now more or less be taken as a given that SJW's and radical lefty's treat their politics as a religion. It's becoming a bit of a tired meme at this stage because it's so self evident. So often these people are just desperate for meaning, purpose, direction, things that used to be provided by faith but now that everything's become so secular it has to be sought elsewhere. Loads of the people who were former SJW's who found faith or detransitioners seem genuinely more happy, stable, productive and just glad to be alive. Better having to go to mass on Sundays than telling yourself "if I just spend enough money and mutilate my body enough, THEN I'll be happy"

I saw a video about a guy talking about Christopher Hitchens and the new atheism of the 2000's which I'm sure many of us remember, hell some of us probably got swept up in it ourselves. What started as people trying to make sense of ancient dogma and scripture didn't take long to morph into irrational hatred and contempt, both for religion and religious people. I'm sure a few of you probably tried to get a gotcha moment on your religious family members round the dinner table at Christmas. But look where that lead. So many of us thought that if religion was stamped out, and treated with hatred and contempt, and that if the world could be forced to adapt secular liberal values then the world would be better off. Christopher Hitchens was an intellectual darling who supported all the wars in the Middle East just because of his irrational hateboner for religious people, and look at the shit show that turned into and how it only served the ends of the elites. Looking back on the 2000's and seeing where secular, globalist liberalism has led the west what a fucking dark legacy. Trooning really is just the most distilled form of it. And don't get me wrong, as my profile suggests I love dunking on troons (especially the coomer ones) as much as the next guy but if I thought classic religious prescriptions would get us out of the state were in I would be hard pressed to take it off the table.

I don't consider myself a Christian, nor of any religious tradition really, I'm too much of a Nietzche fanboy for that but it's worth noting that religious conversion is the number 1 most reliable method for getting smokers to quit. Much as part of me is loathed to admit it, maybe Christ-pilling the troons is the way to go.
 
What do you guys think would be the most reliable cure for transgenderism? I would say the most obvious things would be things like permanent disconnect from the internet, don't go to university and so on, but there's one thing that I don't see too many people talk about and that's religious conversion.
I'm quite interested in hearing the stories of people who either detransition or get away from SJW politics and one thing that frequently comes up is they decided to get away from it around the same time they find faith, predominantly Christianity, not surprising since most of this stuff all happens within the Christian Anglo-sphere anyway.

We've all heard the take that can now more or less be taken as a given that SJW's and radical lefty's treat their politics as a religion. It's becoming a bit of a tired meme at this stage because it's so self evident. So often these people are just desperate for meaning, purpose, direction, things that used to be provided by faith but now that everything's become so secular it has to be sought elsewhere. Loads of the people who were former SJW's who found faith or detransitioners seem genuinely more happy, stable, productive and just glad to be alive. Better having to go to mass on Sundays than telling yourself "if I just spend enough money and mutilate my body enough, THEN I'll be happy"

I saw a video about a guy talking about Christopher Hitchens and the new atheism of the 2000's which I'm sure many of us remember, hell some of us probably got swept up in it ourselves. What started as people trying to make sense of ancient dogma and scripture didn't take long to morph into irrational hatred and contempt, both for religion and religious people. I'm sure a few of you probably tried to get a gotcha moment on your religious family members round the dinner table at Christmas. But look where that lead. So many of us thought that if religion was stamped out, and treated with hatred and contempt, and that if the world could be forced to adapt secular liberal values then the world would be better off. Christopher Hitchens was an intellectual darling who supported all the wars in the Middle East just because of his irrational hateboner for religious people, and look at the shit show that turned into and how it only served the ends of the elites. Looking back on the 2000's and seeing where secular, globalist liberalism has led the west what a fucking dark legacy. Trooning really is just the most distilled form of it. And don't get me wrong, as my profile suggests I love dunking on troons (especially the coomer ones) as much as the next guy but if I thought classic religious prescriptions would get us out of the state were in I would be hard pressed to take it off the table.

I don't consider myself a Christian, nor of any religious tradition really, I'm too much of a Nietzche fanboy for that but it's worth noting that religious conversion is the number 1 most reliable method for getting smokers to quit. Much as part of me is loathed to admit it, maybe Christ-pilling the troons is the way to go.
what
 
Tbh, Ive got theories Im not going to go into here, but could just be the issue that anime has become incredibly moe influenced, isekei soaked, and theres just too much hentai now
they probably watched one too many MtF gender bender hentai flicks and figured that they could get passed around like a Bop-It as a "woman" instead of persisting as a sexless weeb
 
this thread is the most depressing thing i've seen in years

the only troon-out i've personally witnessed was a dude i met on a video game forum some ~10 years ago. he was one of those 'ironic' weebs that constantly post about waifu shit while also making "haha weebs fucking suck lol" jokes, but half the fucking forum was like that so i didnt think anything of it. at some point (i think it was in 2014) he started calling himself "alice" instead of his old name, and he also started acting super catty and bitchy about everything. and he began spamming a bunch of offtopic threads with mega clickbait lgbt outrage news posts (think pink news, that kind of shit)
he was the first tranny on that forum (its a pretty small community) and nobody really knew what to make of it. initially some people made fun of the situation and mocked him, but he got the admins to issue warnings and temporary bans against them. i thought that was super fucking lame and just kinda checked out of the place, so i have no idea how things developed past that point
 
Never lost someone to the troons, since he wasn't in my life from the start. There was a guy I wanted to fuck, he wasn't into me. Years later after he trooned out, he's suddenly into me and were "stalking" my profile on Grindr. Just visiting my profile often, without saying anything. Still creepy.

Sorry not sorry mate, you made yourself ugly :thinking:
 
Another one. Writer I used to know reasonably well, to the point of hanging out a couple of times a year when we had the chance. Generally sensible sort of chap... until he fell in with a literal tankie cult (love-bombing, ostracism for disagreeing with the leader, enforced behaviours, rejection of the past self, the works) that turned him completely against me in a couple of months. Obviously I checked out of that relationship. Went and looked him up recently, he's almost completely isolated himself from everyone we knew and spends all his time proclaiming his pronouns as "she/her" and ranting in that bizarre pseudo-language they all use to sound smart.

He was the normiest of normies in most ways. No sperging or anything, no extreme political rants. Just normal. Chill, you know? Now he's dead and a lunatic has stolen his skin.
 
My closest transgender story has to be vague to not powerlevel. She's a relative of a lolcow, although she hasn't come up much in the cow's thread.

Met in a fandom, she early 20s, me 30s. She started as one of those bisexuals who constantly has sex with different men and never women but is bisexual all day (bisexually). Childhood abuse saga that I do believe happened, from observed effects on her adult behavior, but I wouldn't guarantee any of the specifics.

Was going to go into the armed forces to escape living with abusive family and dead-end town, decided her bisexual-who-only-fucks-men status would not be respected in the armed forces. Instead decided to couch-surf across the country. Incidentally became a Homestuck fan, acquired new typing quirks and more brittle emotions and wham! Now a FtM with makeup and tight girl clothes over huge free-range titties (not her choice to have breasts, but it's part of the picture) complaining people are staring at her on the bus "because I'm trans."

Also having sex on a borrowed couch with people literally from craigslist casual encounters (betraying the time setting here), when she isn't dogging with same craigslisters in the park, then breaking down and being near-catatonic for days after each instance. Craigslist sex randos pulled the surprise bareback, didn't listen to "nos," may have handcuffed her at different points. I noted gently that this seemed to be a pattern that was not good for her, and learned I am "sex-negative." Although she did ask me to help her buy Plan B, both financially and logistically. I readily did this as a service to her and the universe, and then helped her get to Planned Parenthood and get on birth control.

I was a softie then, but I was still a wire mother, although this isn't about my own personal failings. Friends, I confess it was my poor couch that had craigslist sex on it while I was at work. She was supposed to stay with me for [short period] before a normie relative could take her in, but this did not occur. Her lolcow relative was supposed to be giving her a car, which did not occur. She did not want to live with the lolcow, because (per her report) the lolcow's partner had tried to badtouch her, but that made sense.

I sponsored the kid into a short vocational program that would give her the income to rent a one-bedroom and live decently here, moreso if she ended up with a roommate situation. I took her to the public health office and got her her vaccines updated, kept track of dates and appointments, and got her new glasses after her near-blindness ended up being from a junior-high prescription. (If nothing else, this was concrete proof there was something up with her parents.) I showed her how to use the bus system and got her a pass, which worked a lot better after she could actually read street signs. I gave her a decent netbook. I helped her get her learner's permit and took her out driving (when she was still anticipating a gift car). She was still on her parents' insurance, so I encouraged her to get to a shrink, because (at the time) I thought "well OK if she's trans, uhhhh I guess that means therapy->hormones->a bunch of legal paperwork->surgery->normal life again, so we'll put that on the list and work through it like anything else."

I drove her to a local Homestuck fan meetup in the park, where she made a lot of new friends who were exactly like her, except jobless and living off their parents instead.

What I learned firsthand is that troons do not want help; they want "help." She didn't want to take any steps to change herself or her body; after declaring herself trans, she doubled up the makeup and the flouncing. She wanted to do nothing, act helpless and over-the-top femme and be treated (?) as a man. My research into what transition timeline the state health insurance required wasn't helpful. I started to put things together; before the sojurn at my place, there were always reasons that she couldn't take advantage of social programs, couldn't join the armed forces, couldn't do Americorps, couldn't go to a food bank.

I started to overhear voice chats about how I "wasn't exactly transphobic, but..." She made it through her program and got a job, and I helped her find a good, actually not-creepy rooming house situation literally down the street from work and on a bus line. Without my dubiously stabilizing influence, she spun further into the internet. She called me and part of a rant was that "I guess if you want people to see you as a boy, you have to dress like a boy."

As I know now, the correct answer to that was not a chuckle and "yeah, probably." It turned out to be a relief being unpersoned slowly; she socialized with her Homestuck genderspecial friends, she quit her normal job with benefits and became a live-in nanny, with no contract and being paid under the table, for one of the Homestucks' younger siblings. She later contacted me with regrets and fear that she was now in an undocumented position with unstable income, and through the Cluster B lens my careful advice was still seen as that of an evil transphobe, so she never talked to me again.

I was constantly worried I'd run into her at a store, or she'd call/message me in the middle of the night with a new plateau of psychosocial troubles, but she eventually fell in with a man, centered her life around him, and was last seen on her way moving across the country in a different direction. By then the FtM/FtX meme had metastasized in the female-heavy fandom community where we'd met, so I was able to delete all my links to her socials and be uninformed about her future life. I have had only occasional moments of worry in the years since. She could have actually done something about trooning out, she could be medicated and employed, she could have several kids or still be couch surfing and probably calling herself nonbinary by now.

I still hope she did not get murdered at a rest stop by a craigslist sex rando, even though she tried to teach me that that's a selfish and un-progressive thing to hope.
 
My closest transgender story has to be vague to not powerlevel. She's a relative of a lolcow, although she hasn't come up much in the cow's thread.

Met in a fandom, she early 20s, me 30s. She started as one of those bisexuals who constantly has sex with different men and never women but is bisexual all day (bisexually). Childhood abuse saga that I do believe happened, from observed effects on her adult behavior, but I wouldn't guarantee any of the specifics.

Was going to go into the armed forces to escape living with abusive family and dead-end town, decided her bisexual-who-only-fucks-men status would not be respected in the armed forces. Instead decided to couch-surf across the country. Incidentally became a Homestuck fan, acquired new typing quirks and more brittle emotions and wham! Now a FtM with makeup and tight girl clothes over huge free-range titties (not her choice to have breasts, but it's part of the picture) complaining people are staring at her on the bus "because I'm trans."

Also having sex on a borrowed couch with people literally from craigslist casual encounters (betraying the time setting here), when she isn't dogging with same craigslisters in the park, then breaking down and being near-catatonic for days after each instance. Craigslist sex randos pulled the surprise bareback, didn't listen to "nos," may have handcuffed her at different points. I noted gently that this seemed to be a pattern that was not good for her, and learned I am "sex-negative." Although she did ask me to help her buy Plan B, both financially and logistically. I readily did this as a service to her and the universe, and then helped her get to Planned Parenthood and get on birth control.

I was a softie then, but I was still a wire mother, although this isn't about my own personal failings. Friends, I confess it was my poor couch that had craigslist sex on it while I was at work. She was supposed to stay with me for [short period] before a normie relative could take her in, but this did not occur. Her lolcow relative was supposed to be giving her a car, which did not occur. She did not want to live with the lolcow, because (per her report) the lolcow's partner had tried to badtouch her, but that made sense.

I sponsored the kid into a short vocational program that would give her the income to rent a one-bedroom and live decently here, moreso if she ended up with a roommate situation. I took her to the public health office and got her her vaccines updated, kept track of dates and appointments, and got her new glasses after her near-blindness ended up being from a junior-high prescription. (If nothing else, this was concrete proof there was something up with her parents.) I showed her how to use the bus system and got her a pass, which worked a lot better after she could actually read street signs. I gave her a decent netbook. I helped her get her learner's permit and took her out driving (when she was still anticipating a gift car). She was still on her parents' insurance, so I encouraged her to get to a shrink, because (at the time) I thought "well OK if she's trans, uhhhh I guess that means therapy->hormones->a bunch of legal paperwork->surgery->normal life again, so we'll put that on the list and work through it like anything else."

I drove her to a local Homestuck fan meetup in the park, where she made a lot of new friends who were exactly like her, except jobless and living off their parents instead.

What I learned firsthand is that troons do not want help; they want "help." She didn't want to take any steps to change herself or her body; after declaring herself trans, she doubled up the makeup and the flouncing. She wanted to do nothing, act helpless and over-the-top femme and be treated (?) as a man. My research into what transition timeline the state health insurance required wasn't helpful. I started to put things together; before the sojurn at my place, there were always reasons that she couldn't take advantage of social programs, couldn't join the armed forces, couldn't do Americorps, couldn't go to a food bank.

I started to overhear voice chats about how I "wasn't exactly transphobic, but..." She made it through her program and got a job, and I helped her find a good, actually not-creepy rooming house situation literally down the street from work and on a bus line. Without my dubiously stabilizing influence, she spun further into the internet. She called me and part of a rant was that "I guess if you want people to see you as a boy, you have to dress like a boy."

As I know now, the correct answer to that was not a chuckle and "yeah, probably." It turned out to be a relief being unpersoned slowly; she socialized with her Homestuck genderspecial friends, she quit her normal job with benefits and became a live-in nanny, with no contract and being paid under the table, for one of the Homestucks' younger siblings. She later contacted me with regrets and fear that she was now in an undocumented position with unstable income, and through the Cluster B lens my careful advice was still seen as that of an evil transphobe, so she never talked to me again.

I was constantly worried I'd run into her at a store, or she'd call/message me in the middle of the night with a new plateau of psychosocial troubles, but she eventually fell in with a man, centered her life around him, and was last seen on her way moving across the country in a different direction. By then the FtM/FtX meme had metastasized in the female-heavy fandom community where we'd met, so I was able to delete all my links to her socials and be uninformed about her future life. I have had only occasional moments of worry in the years since. She could have actually done something about trooning out, she could be medicated and employed, she could have several kids or still be couch surfing and probably calling herself nonbinary by now.

I still hope she did not get murdered at a rest stop by a craigslist sex rando, even though she tried to teach me that that's a selfish and un-progressive thing to hope.
She seems very similar to a bipolar girl i was friends with, down to the manic sex and reckless behaviour followed by catatonia, i too regret taking so much shit trying to help her, i was too young and ignorant of to know the only positive that can come from wasting energy on cluster b's is the learning experience that you should never waste energy on cluster b's, they are not going to ever improve their life, just try to ruin yours as well.

This girl also talked several times about gender confusion, and history of abuse that is very suspect in retrospective (i am certain she lied or exaggerated most of it if not all of her sad tales of sadness) and also talked about wanting to cut off her breasts, she also claimed to be bisexual, although i know for a fact at least a couple of lesbians who knew her hated her for being a tease that never ever did shit with women and she was extremely full of shit about the troon thing too. If she lived in Muhrica in current year she most likely would have done something reckless with her body for brownie points and instantly regret it, that what she always did. Like cut all her hair in a manic frenzy then cry about it for months, at some point mental wrecks don't know when they fooling others start and fooling themselves begins
 
Like cut all her hair in a manic frenzy then cry about it for months, at some point mental wrecks don't know when they fooling others start and fooling themselves begins
Yeah, when I was typing that up, I wanted to tell my past self "get away from the obvious Cluster B trainwreck." SHE DOES NOT JUST NEED JOB SKILLS, DUMBASS.

I don't think mine was really trans, but that's as much as "really trans" can ever mean anything. What she posted online was the classic snarky/woke/brittle Tragic Trans Tales that I still see everywhere today, so if those people are trans, so was she--but that math goes right back the other way, too.

Not groundbreaking, but I think it's seductive to decide that all your problems are due to one thing, and it turns out the one thing is something you can't control and you can use this new identity as an excuse and a cudgel and a ticket to a social group. And that identity means that nobody can criticize you ever again, and you always have reasons to flip out when you feel like you need more chaos.
 
Came into the thread, voted "none, just came to laugh", then realized I frequently talk to a feller that ticks practically every box. British, currently in some faggy arts degree, sexually abused as a child, gay, psychologically damaged (duh), meek, physically unimposing and decently into anime and other feminine hobbies. I'd really prefer not to have to change that vote. The fact that he's """aggressively""" gay (as in, borderline hates women and only goes for masculine guys) gives me some hope at least, even if it comes from a place of sheer disgust.

I'm honestly really tempted to just ask him flat out if he's been accosted by anyone either IRL or online trying to groom him. While I'm used to cutting people off online and IRL to an extent, it's never a pleasant experience, especially when you know the pit they're falling into is so fucking bleak.
 
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