Trashfire 07/08/2021: Gunt VS Matthew Vickers, Battle of Custody Begins

[Postal Pippa]

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@Burger Fox are you harrassing him again?

Nah, he messaged me though our established communication channel shortly after he got that, asking if I emailed him. I laughed cause I almost didn't believe it was true that someone would impersonate me.

I don't know who owns that email address but it isn't me. Plus I certainly wouldn't have used my user name from here that's for sure.

What I find odd is that whoever tried to impersonate me either didn't know I've spoken with Mr V before or thought we haven't spoken since the original first couple of times.

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Too add whats even funnier is that they were trying to inform Mr V that gunt had his number up and then was even trying to get /pol/ of all places to harass him. They also encouraged he try to take whatever legal action he can against against Ralph for it. Lastly trying to ask for any info at all or how he his doing and that they would report back to kiwifarms (lol) with said info.

The whole thing is just surreal.

 

[byuu]

Seething hard in response:

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Why is Ralph insulting himself?

 

[Sea Hag Henderson]

I, for one, hope Ethan fights for his paternal rights. Courts can order euthanasia for all involved parties, right?

 

[The Biggest Meme]

Ralph (or maybe Gator) is sperging on /pol/ again. Not the first time this has happened.

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[LordofCringe7206]

What is she talking about anyway? "What can I do?" She knows she's legally an adult, and she has the rights to leave with the kid for public housing and single mother gibs. Since she's aware of all this, her angle was about "being hated", that's some scary and fucking up emotional manipulation shit. You know your parents won't hate you, they just hate your choices as unfortunate as a gunted lottery is.

We've always suspected that Faith is very manipulative. You saw that with the ex's messages on the night of the sex tape. Nobody every really properly evaluated those due to the sex tape getting released (if Ralph was smarter, I would say he deliberately released the tape as a way to draw people's attention away from seriously analyzing those messages). Reading those over with a closer eye you definitely see she is up to no good.

I think Faith feels she is in some kind of chess game and is trying to position everyone to do what she wants. I don't know what exactly her end goal is. I remember Null theorizing during the corn harvest that she may have some kind of fetish for humiliating men. I feel he might be right. I might be giving her too much credit as an "organizer" for all this, but I think she gets off on the attention, enjoying both her father and Ralph making giant assesses of themselves in front of thousands of people all over her.

 

[MeltyTW]

I think Faith feels she is in some kind of chess game and is trying to position everyone to do what she wants. I don't know what exactly her end goal is. I remember Null theorizing during the corn harvest that she may have some kind of fetish for humiliating men. I feel he might be right. I might be giving her too much credit as an "organizer" for all this, but I think she gets off on the attention, enjoying both her father and Ralph making giant assesses of themselves in front of thousands of people all over her.

oh faiths 100 percent manipulating people here . i can almost hear her smuckles, she loves that her dad and gunt are fighting. thats not even in question

 

[instythot]

First he would have to petition for paternity which can only be done at the local Superior Court, so Ralph would need to take a trip to California or pay a lawyer to file those petitions for him. Child support is something he would have to offer voluntarily or Faith would need to petition for. In the event he was made to pay he could be liable for back child support.

Also, he has 3 years from Xander's DOB to petition for paternity, after that he's shit out of luck if he wants a legal claim to the child. Tick Tock Ethan.

Such a petition really seems like the sort of thing that Ethan Ralph would file out of spite, or to prove the ayyylawwwgs wrong. God willing

Do you really think so? Vickers has been a monumental piece of shit since the moment he first pinged on the Kiwidar. I frankly wouldnt trust this guy any farther than I could throw his marginally-less-fat-than-Ralph's-fat ass. I dont think its so crazy that the dad who would put his daughter's business on the lolcow boards would also consider putting his grandson up for adoption against his family's wishes.

edit: just to make it clear, the best thing for the child would *clearly* be to put it up for adoption, hopefully to a family who goes to church, and has no idea what the fuck a lolcow is. But from what we know about Vickers I really dont believe for a second that anything he does is for the kid's best interest.

Yeah, Gramps was pretty abrasive and erratic when he came to our attention. Gramps also got to watch his daughter riding a tiny penis sticking out of an overstuffed pudding balloon while the penis owner indirectly licked the shit out of her asshole. It's a pretty easy sell to most that his brain may have been temporarily broken

 

[The Soaker]

Ralph (or maybe Gator) is sperging on /pol/ again. Not the first time this has happened.

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Yes, "Gay Nigger Sex" is definitely the appropriate response.

 

[Had]

Ralph (or maybe Gator) is sperging on /pol/ again. Not the first time this has happened.

Lol they took the thread down right away

 

[Big Fat Frog]

Seething hard in response:

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Imagine calling the father of your ex a sperg on Twitter as a 30 year-old balding fatass who runs a podcast with 12 viewers. God, Ralph has the mind and behavior of a fucking twelve year old. High-tier wigger energy.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Lol they took the thread down right away

mods = gods

gaytorr = permavirgin

 

[DragoonSierra]

Ethan has (selectively) leaked texts where Faith alleges that Matt Vickers wants Xander to be put up for adoption:

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Is this implying that ralph threatened Faith if she cut her off?

 

[MeltyTW]

lol gunt saying he's thanos like a little marvel soyboy.

Is this implying that ralph threatened Faith if she cut her off?

Actually yes it does, threatening his own baby mama, it says something when that got lost in the shuffle of all the other terrible shots he's doing

 

[Vanquished Phoenix]

Do you really think so? Vickers has been a monumental piece of shit since the moment he first pinged on the Kiwidar. I frankly wouldnt trust this guy any farther than I could throw his marginally-less-fat-than-Ralph's-fat ass. I dont think its so crazy that the dad who would put his daughter's business on the lolcow boards would also consider putting his grandson up for adoption against his family's wishes.

edit: just to make it clear, the best thing for the child would *clearly* be to put it up for adoption, hopefully to a family who goes to church, and has no idea what the fuck a lolcow is. But from what we know about Vickers I really dont believe for a second that anything he does is for the kid's best interest.

I don't disagree with what you are saying (in fact I agree almost entirely), but him being a very flawed person does not mean he isn't Conservative. I absolutely believe he would bring up the idea of adoption; adoption isn't an anti-conservative idea (as far as I know anyway) and, in this case, could be seen as pro-Conservative. My argument was rather that Vickers is pro-gun, pro-family, pro self-sufficiecy; compared to Ralph who claims to be those things to appeal to a particular audience, yet is actually a violent criminal from a fractured family who wanted to force a woman he had groomed and made pregnant to harem with a horse-faced tranny pedo, all while funding his lifestyle through grifted donations and scamming welfare systems. Vickers made a lot of mistakes, he has a lot of flaws, but if I were in his shoes I can't say I wouldn't have made the same mistakes (or worse). As much of a mentally-deranged burden as Faith is, she is still their daughter, their only daughter, their first born, and his actions have to be viewed through that lens.

There are few good people in this whole debacle, if any, and only one true innocent - but they won't remain innocent for long if they are exposed to all this shit. If Faith and Ralph both disappeared, I think Xander could grow up okay, but that isn't going to happen. So adoption might be the best option. But it will not happen, as Vickers (if Faith is to be believed) is the only one who even entertained this idea.

EDIT: I said only Xander was innocent, but Faith's brothers are also innocent. They don't deserve this shit and even if Xander gets adopted out, they won't be spared. Ralph will still come after Faith, still attack the Vickers, and those children will suffer. Even if Ralph drops dead, Faith is never going to change - she'll slump up with another scumbag and bring the family more pain. So there might not be a good solution, innocent people will have to suffer for no good reason.

 

[DragoonSierra]

All this proves Ethan is that Matthew Vickers pushed for adoption at one point. Care to share the time and date of these messages to prove me wrong? Cause I bet that was before she had the baby, but now that the baby has come home he is in his grandpa feels and loves the little bastard.

Edit: I also just remembered Ethan pushed for abortion at one point. Adoption > Abortion. You cant moral fag here when you pushed for abortion at one time you fat faggot.

Doesnt he rag on CRP for that?

That pretty much confirms it, Ralph has no legal parental claim on Xander. Ralph is not the father.
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what is he larping as a wizard in that second paragraph?

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

just watched the new PPP video holy. fucking. shit. ralph is legit insane! here we have Vickers, not only willing to adopt the hell spawn into his family. to feed him, cloth him, give it a warm place to sleep. take it into his house as it was his own. and what dose ralph responded with? "what a faggot lol!"

vickers is not only a decent human being for not disowning his mentally retarded daughter, but a real man for taking in her child AND not ask gaunt to pay child support! something you will never be Ralph!

i honestly believe ralph is mentally stunted. he never grew out of high school and why he keeps chasing after teenage girls.

the very definition of a LOSSER!

 

[4str4staleatherbelt]

Some of you hate Ralph so much you would defend Mrs. Vickers snatching away little Xander and the evidence of this is as valid as Ralph choking Faith, "almost crushing May in the process." Hood rich Ethan should just pay her rent somewhere or take her back.

Let's note that Mr. Vickers has not denied being a controlling, assertive grandpa who won't let his daughter have internet access. Ralph just wants to speak with his ex and little Xander as he's been doing for weeks allegedly which Mr. Vickers also hasn't bothered denying and likely because it's entirely true. Who's really the bad guy here? It's Mr. Vickers!

 

[Schlomo Silverscreenblatt]

If they do put up the child for adoption I hope they do it sooner than later for everyone's sake. The poor child will be confused once it starts to recognize someone as family only for that to be taken away. There's also the fact that everyone will grow the care for it and giving the child up after getting attached and close to it would hurt anybody deeply.
Terrible circumstances for baby Xander

 

[AnOminous]

If he were to apply for paternity, does that mean that he would be liable for the child support arrears since Xander's birth or do payments start after he legally becomes the father?

Yes. Once you do acknowledge paternity, and it's actually accepted (the mother does not contest it and contest it successfully), your rights to custody and visitation become a live issue, and child support is as well, nunc pro tunc, which is Latin for fuck you, I know Latin, but in normal human language, retroactively to the effective date. In other words, the failure to do it to that date is considered a clerical error rather than a substantive one.

In addition, either parent has the right to sue over this issue. So the mother could sue a father refusing to acknowledge parentage, or oppose the claim of paternity. In either event, the issue would be resolved by a DNA test, or the failure or refusal to take one. It's a little procedurally complex, and the burden of who has to prove what depends on the case. So you could either be in a situation where you'd have to take a DNA test to prove you were the father, if you were the one trying to prove that, or the actual opposite, where you'd have to take a DNA test to prove you weren't, and then there would be the issue of whether it were even possible to test the child.

I don't know how they do it in California, probably some fucked up retarded way, but forcing even a cheek swab DNA test on a child is possibly also tricky.

I am fairly sure about one thing, though. The Gunt will never prove his paternity judicially. He will never do anything that will put him on the hook for child support. He is a subhuman. He will never be a father. Even his own father, who very well may have fucked him up the ass, was a better father than he is.

I'm deadly serious, people like Ralph are a blight on the world for the misery and pain they spread. With the only commiseration that they're fun to gawk at.

Ethan Ralph is a walking example of the degeneracy of Western civilization and why a judgment from God on our sick society is coming.

 

[FMW13]

Some of you hate Ralph so much you would defend Mrs. Vickers snatching away little Xander and the evidence of this is as valid as Ralph choking Faith, "almost crushing May in the process." Hood rich Ethan should just pay her rent somewhere or take her back.

So let the kid grow up in a fucked up enviornment? The kid has better chance at life being adopted and never knowing who Ralph and faith are. It’s better for everyone this way.