Infected Euphoric atheists

[RedneckQuadFeed]

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

> in 1000 years we will all be atheist, or we will no longer be

Let me know how that approach worked for you at Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

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In 1000 yrs we will all be polytheist again and just sacrifice people with this level of hubris.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

A lifetime of experience has told me that militant atheists uniformly have daddy issues. I haven't caught up with this entire thread, but I am going to assume it's still true. Let me know if I'm off base here.

 

[Pikapool]

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Well guess I can't believe in dinosaurs anymore cause I'm a Christian as a I guess....I really don't fucking know how does anyone think that bio makes sense?

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

I'm a big fan of the atheists claiming the reason they hate or at least dislike Christians is being they're mean in some way, then go on to say some of the most cruel, vile shit about people simply for holding a belief that they don't. We've all seen plenty of 'Christians are so judgmental' and then go on to obsessively judge Christians and everything they do/believe/think/say.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

I've had two co-workers recently say insanely rude things to me because of my religion. Each time they were the ones instigating, it's not like I was proselytizing. And they felt so comfortable doing it, and were all merry like it was perfectly fine and in their right to say. If I had some kind of weird sexuality or gender they would probably tiptoe and make sure to never offend me, but Christianity? Without hesitation insult and disrespect me.

I have a similar powerlevelly story. When I was first starting out learning about my religious views back in the early 2010s, I would go on Yahoo Answers and ask Bible questions in their religion section. About 65% of the comments I got were atheists being as rude as possible, and this was when the "militant atheist" thing was in full swing. I even remember asking a question about something else in a different category on there, and someone looked through my history of questions (a reddit-like move, now that I think about it), found all the Christian stuff, and I got all sorts of comments about how I should "go back to the Middle Ages" and all sorts of nonsense. Back when I used Reddit before I deleted my account, I would see Christians comment in places like /r/AskReddit and get mobbed by atheists and downvoted into oblivion.

A lot of these "militant reddit atheist" types have almost all moved on to talking about left wing politics now that atheism is no longer the hot button issue. I even found the attached video from an atheist talk show where a guy talks about being kicked out of a large atheist Facebook group for defending Trump supporters, and it even seems like the hosts don't really seem to like the idea of right wing atheists themselves:

I mean it's crazy - these militant reddit atheists of yesteryear have all either retired from making videos years ago (such as 43alley), or they have essentially founded their own little religion in the form of woke politics. People like TJ, Aron Ra, and others are all very left leaning, and people like the ones in the Facebook group mentioned in the video and also the ones I encountered on Yahoo Answers almost a lifetime ago are seemingly the same. People who step one toe out of line, such as an atheist being openly right wing, are kicked out of the group like a cult member being thrown out for questioning something, even a little. Besides DrShaym and Sye Ten, I don't think I have EVER seen a right wing atheist channel. Not one.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

Besides DrShaym and Sye Ten, I don't think I have EVER seen a right wing atheist channel. Not one.

I don't know of any that are specifically dedicated to atheism, but there are actually quite a few so-called right-wing atheists. But they tend to be in certain niche political groups including a lot of the so-called alt-right and fascist types are atheists, as are many libertarians.

But I found that if you scratch these types a little bit they tend to reveal themselves as having libertine views on other issues, so I have never really looked at them as politically reliable allies in any sense.

 

[RedneckQuadFeed]

This bitch could have her own sub page. Aside from dedicating your whole being into not believing in something, I don't think I've ever heard of a more gross misrepresentation of what faith is or anything belonging to it. For anyone else who was raised without faith, how do you compare to this?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

This bitch could have her own sub page. Aside from dedicating your whole being into not believing in something, I don't think I've ever heard of a more gross misrepresentation of what faith is or anything belonging to it. For anyone else who was raised without faith, how do you compare to this?

I random clicked in the about-middle point of the vid and the bitch started talking some shit about tutu wearing legions trying to cram eggs into iphones, then started rambling some incoherent shit about whatever the fuck. I'd say that's almost providence trying to tell me something about her.

 

[Black ContraPoints]

I don't think I've ever heard of a more gross misrepresentation of what faith is or anything belonging to it.

This reminds me of a fun video I saw with Aron Ra throwing an absolute temper tantrum in a live Atheist vs Christian debate. Basically he was confronted with the fact that he uses an incorrect definition of faith in order to make his arguments. I don't know why exactly at this point he lost it but it's pretty funny watching him go from calm, 'I'm so above all of you' to his hissy fit.

I quickly skimmed the highlights and didn't see this posted, sorry if it has been. It's an older video. Unfortunately I couldn't find a clip of just the tantrum, but the guy who actually caused it made a fairly short video on it. It's pretty lighthearted.

 

[Cap. Willard Marlow]

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"Don't pray in my school, and I won't think in your Church".

I'm frankly sure there's probabilities this guy hasn't seen anyone praying in his school ever and yet he keeps thinking in religion all day. The fact he says "my school" makes me question if he is even a mature man. He might be a teacher, but it's easier to believe he's a 17 year old, unless... He's the weird janitor. Yeah, imagine it: he's just cleaning the floor when he sees someone praying and he starts screaming and ranting, but everyone brushes it off because he always is that odd.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

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I might be off in a few of the details here, but my understanding was that the 'dark ages' began with the fall of christianized Rome, and subsequent invasions by pagan germanics and other peoples. That knowledge, maths, early science etc. were preserved on the outskirts of Europe, among the likes of irish monasteries and dare I say it? islamic scholars.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I might be off in a few of the details here, but my understanding was that the 'dark ages' began with the fall of christianized Rome, and subsequent invasions by pagan germanics and other peoples. That knowledge, maths, early science etc. were preserved on the outskirts of Europe, among the likes of irish monasteries and dare I say it? islamic scholars.

The idea of a Dark Age at all is just pseudohistory that the Renaissance and Enlightenment thinkers made up to justify their worldview being superior to a traditional Christian one. If anything, the re-treading of Aristotelianism and all its flaws in the years after the Middle Ages did more damage to our understanding of the world than the philosophy of the monasteries did.

Roger Bacon, a Catholic monk, more or less invented the scientific method in the 1200s to argue against the failed worldview of the Greeks (stuff like the classical elements, alchemy, etc.). This was the peak of the High Middle Ages and the crest of a wave of empiricism and rational analysis of nature spurred on by Christianity. The general idea being that understanding the world by observation can be a method of understanding and knowing God, and therefore a religious pursuit.

Only a century or so after Bacon's death the Renaissance happened and people decided stodgy Catholic traditions like "logic" and "empiricism" couldn't be true and the newly rediscovered Classics imported from Arabia became viewed as the only authoritative source of knowledge. It's hard to overstate just how Hellenophilic people became in that era. Perfectly good observations of experimental data were thrown out for disagreeing with Aristotle.

To give one big example, Galileo was attacked for his advocacy of Heliocentrism largely due to the fact that Aristotle argued for Geocentrism and not on the basis of any legitimate evidence either way. In his book Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, where he was asked to make his case against the prevailing theory, he was arguing against the theories of Aristotle and not fighting the Bible as many Atheists like to say.

 

[Cap. Willard Marlow]

I might be off in a few of the details here, but my understanding was that the 'dark ages' began with the fall of christianized Rome, and subsequent invasions by pagan germanics and other peoples. That knowledge, maths, early science etc. were preserved on the outskirts of Europe, among the likes of irish monasteries and dare I say it? islamic scholars.

The idea of a Dark Age at all is just pseudohistory that the Renaissance and Enlightenment thinkers made up to justify their worldview being superior to a traditional Christian one. If anything, the re-treading of Aristotelianism and all its flaws in the years after the Middle Ages did more damage to our understanding of the world than the philosophy of the monasteries did.

Roger Bacon, a Catholic monk, more or less invented the scientific method in the 1200s to argue against the failed worldview of the Greeks (stuff like the classical elements, alchemy, etc.). This was the peak of the High Middle Ages and the crest of a wave of empiricism and rational analysis of nature spurred on by Christianity. The general idea being that understanding the world by observation can be a method of understanding and knowing God, and therefore a religious pursuit.

Only a century or so after Bacon's death the Renaissance happened and people decided stodgy Catholic traditions like "logic" and "empiricism" couldn't be true and the newly rediscovered Classics imported from Arabia became viewed as the only authoritative source of knowledge. It's hard to overstate just how Hellenophilic people became in that era. Perfectly good observations of experimental data were thrown out for disagreeing with Aristotle.

To give one big example, Galileo was attacked for his advocacy of Heliocentrism largely due to the fact that Aristotle argued for Geocentrism and not on the basis of any legitimate evidence either way. In his book Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, where he was asked to make his case against the prevailing theory, he was arguing against the theories of Aristotle and not fighting the Bible as many Atheists like to say.

A few random people I found time ago in the Internet think that somehow adopting christianism caused the fall of the roman empire, basically because Rome fell relatively a short time after that. Inside that group some say this means christianity destroyed the scientific, democratic, tolerant grecorroman civilization (sic). Scientific? Maybe. Tolerant? Perhaps, I don't really know how "tolerant" they exactly were. Democratic? Man, if you think the roman empire was a paradise of democracy...

Then there were those fewer that conflated the supposed fall of Rome by christianity with the future fall of western civilization through Islam.

Sadly, I don't remember where to find that comments.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

A few random people I found time ago in the Internet think that somehow adopting christianism caused the fall of the roman empire, basically because Rome fell relatively a short time after that. Inside that group some say this means christianity destroyed the scientific, democratic, tolerant grecorroman civilization (sic). Scientific? Maybe. Tolerant? Perhaps, I don't really know how "tolerant" they exactly were. Democratic? Man, if you think the roman empire was a paradise of democracy...

Then there were those fewer that conflated the supposed fall of Rome by christianity with the future fall of western civilization through Islam.

Sadly, I don't remember where to find that comments.

The “Christianity destroyed Rome” crowd seems to be composed primarily of Neo-Nazi neopagans nowadays, who tend to claim that Christianity was created and popularized by Jews to destroy the Stronk Pagan Europe after the fall of the 2nd Temple. Ignore the fact that modern Judaism didn’t emerge until after the 2nd Diaspora, or that the Pharisees who act as the basis for modern Orthodox Judaism had been persecuting Christians as “heretics” since they’d got Jesus crucified, Vargtards must be vindicated that their illiterate raider ancestors were perfect and that Christianity ruined Europe.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

This put me in mind of things I read about the film Agora, a while back.

The Dangerous Silliness of the new movie Agora

Along with the tales of Galileo and Giordano Bruno, the legend of Hypatia is a favorite of anti-religious ideologues. Here we go again. I just saw the...

www.catholiceducation.org

"Agora" and Hypatia - Hollywood Strikes Again

Hollywood Hokum - Again It looks like some pseudo historical myths about the history of science are about to get a new shot in the arm, t...

armariummagnus.blogspot.com

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

The “Christianity destroyed Rome” crowd seems to be composed primarily of Neo-Nazi neopagans nowadays, who tend to claim that Christianity was created and popularized by Jews to destroy the Stronk Pagan Europe after the fall of the 2nd Temple. Ignore the fact that modern Judaism didn’t emerge until after the 2nd Diaspora, or that the Pharisees who act as the basis for modern Orthodox Judaism had been persecuting Christians as “heretics” since they’d got Jesus crucified, Vargtards must be vindicated that their illiterate raider ancestors were perfect and that Christianity ruined Europe.

It's pretty ironic that neo-Nazis tend to idolise a country that viewed Judaism as a religio licita and had an emperor called Philip the Arab. Not to mention that the [Holy] Roman Empire wasn't too fond of Germanic pagans.

 

[Cap. Willard Marlow]

The “Christianity destroyed Rome” crowd seems to be composed primarily of Neo-Nazi neopagans nowadays, who tend to claim that Christianity was created and popularized by Jews to destroy the Stronk Pagan Europe after the fall of the 2nd Temple. Ignore the fact that modern Judaism didn’t emerge until after the 2nd Diaspora, or that the Pharisees who act as the basis for modern Orthodox Judaism had been persecuting Christians as “heretics” since they’d got Jesus crucified, Vargtards must be vindicated that their illiterate raider ancestors were perfect and that Christianity ruined Europe.

Those are the most common supporters nowadays, yes, but aside from the guy that conflated christian expansion with immigration in Europe, the others were rather liberal. Now that I remember better, some were from FSTDT. I used to go there but the comments users would post there sometimes struck me as euphoric smug liberal versions of the fundie quotes and I started to drift away from there.

This put me in mind of things I read about the film Agora, a while back.

The Dangerous Silliness of the new movie Agora

Along with the tales of Galileo and Giordano Bruno, the legend of Hypatia is a favorite of anti-religious ideologues. Here we go again. I just saw the...

www.catholiceducation.org

"Agora" and Hypatia - Hollywood Strikes Again

Hollywood Hokum - Again It looks like some pseudo historical myths about the history of science are about to get a new shot in the arm, t...

armariummagnus.blogspot.com

I read the second article too. There was a fight on that whole thing somewhere deep in the comments for those that might be interested.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Those are the most common supporters nowadays, yes, but aside from the guy that conflated christian expansion with immigration in Europe, the others were rather liberal. Now that I remember better, some were from FSTDT. I used to go there but the comments users would post there sometimes struck me as euphoric smug liberal versions of the fundie quotes and I started to drift away from there.

Even now the crowd is split between bougie Pagan Hellenophiles who wish they could still praise Zeus and sexual degenerates who think Rome was a pro-gay public sex paradise, and Neo-Nazis who think Rome was a baste and red-bannered huwite empire. The stark political divide over who believes in this particular historical conspiracy shows how fringe it really is.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

The “Christianity destroyed Rome” crowd seems to be composed primarily of Neo-Nazi neopagans nowadays, who tend to claim that Christianity was created and popularized by Jews to destroy the Stronk Pagan Europe after the fall of the 2nd Temple. Ignore the fact that modern Judaism didn’t emerge until after the 2nd Diaspora, or that the Pharisees who act as the basis for modern Orthodox Judaism had been persecuting Christians as “heretics” since they’d got Jesus crucified, Vargtards must be vindicated that their illiterate raider ancestors were perfect and that Christianity ruined Europe.

The first prominent person to argue this was actually the skeptic historian Edward Gibbon in his famous history of the Roman empire. So it was actually a view was some prominence, though not a whole lot of modern scholars still believe that. The Catholic Church usually avoided putting purely secular works on the index of forbidden books, but they put gibbons history on it just for his argument on Christianity causing the fall of Roman empire.