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So, Pippa has decided to use her alternate Twitch account to talk a little bit about hololive. She's extremely frustrated with Cover since Coco's graduation and spent good 5 minutes venting about how management's level of incompetence is just one step away from outright malevolent sabotage (she let out a loud, frustrated scream when the incident with antis getting promotion to mods was brought up). She compared Cover to Nintendo: a company that prioritizes safety above all else and as a result, releases products that are virtually identical to previous ones, because any innovation requires a risk they're not willing to take. She believes this will bite Cover's ass soon, because viewers are going to realize they're not gonna receive anything remotely new or original if things stay this way. IRyS is a perfect example; Pippa thinks she's basically a worse version of Ina but with zero personality and debuted at the beginning od July just to give the viewers something new to talk about.

Not gonna lie, listening to her comparing Cover and Nintendo made me think a bit and now I'm even more concerned, because if hololive really goes in that direction, then Haachama wilk probably the next one to quit.

I think what shes trying to say is that Cover will play it safe in terms of content and wont have talents like Coco or Hachama in the future. Both of whom said at points that management wanted them to stop doing what they were doing. Cover will survive because of name recognition but with more people entering into the industry they will need talents that can stand out and who arent afraid to not be seiso, EN has this to a good extent with Kiara and Ame and sorta Gura but I think it wont last
 
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Welp they must have got on to her for doing the rl shit

The "seiso sells" mentality falls apart when you look at the numbers Coco was pulling when she departed. This just stinks of shit management.
Now I see where Pipa is coming from - she isn't angry about Holo, but more so on Phase Connect for pushing the idol model on an already saturated market.

Which I can agree with her on that point then, even other startups like Wactor and PriPro go for idol because of Holo; just like how PS and Xbox forced Motion Controls when Wii was a smash success.

I hope Pipa can show to PhaseConnect that being a raving lunatic can also bring in the $$$
 
She could be on Sydnap show for fun and giggle (the last time Sydnap was having a talk show with a porn star I believe). It will be funny for sure plus. Topic could be anything from everyday life as a foreigner in Japan or how Karen convince authorities to continue her work visa, etc. as being a songwriter and “streamer” definitely not qualify for work visa under Japan law.
Not much to say in that regard, and it's similar to Coco since she is also an expat I'm sure. Karen got in on an ESL teaching work visa and now Cover endorses her as an entertainer or some other bullshit title to keep her visa valid. Keeki had to leave specifically because her visa was different and it'll be some time before she can get another one endorsed by Cover, probably.
In the indie scene this is what we call a dick move but it isn't unheard of. If someone quits and they want to make a quick buck then they can sell their assets to someone so long as it doesn't violate intellectual property rights. Even if it does, you think these Fiverr artists are gonna sue? It happens not all that often but still more often than you'd think. I see more people talk about how you shouldn't do it than people actually doing it.
Interestingly, there’s also the R18 aspect of Vtubing that no one but Melody is seriously doing so far with her milk cow Chaturbate.
I’ll say if some JP companies are ballsy enough, they would get some notorious “expired” JAV actresses and turn them into Vtuber like Melody. Heck they also get those “not sell” AKB48 members on the ride as well.
Several prominent indies I can name off the top of my head go out of their way to get porn drawn of themselves and actively post it...and then some get pissy when some coomer slides into their DMs. Only Mel actively uses her model on Chaturbate but that doesn't mean other people get porn of their characters done by professionals.
If true, fair criticism with Cover’s mismanagement, but that Nintendo comparison is a head-scratcher. Does she think these girls go though RnD and produced in a factory? If “the products are virtually identical,” that’s more on the talents having similar personalities since everyone pretty much breaks out of their character mold and settles into their own style months after debut. Which is why saying someone has no personality after 5 days of streaming is completely insane.
Pippa's take here is fucking insane and it kind of reeks of jealousy. Her whole thing with Coco's departure is wrong even as Coco admits. While we don't know all the details, the biggest reason Coco left seems to be the fact that she suffers heavily from impostor syndrome and realized that she' peaking, and would rather go out on top than fade away as time goes on. Hell, when Senzawa made her comeback as Gura, she was already doing very fucking well for herself and carried that momentum to her new persona. It definitely is a thing in the entertainment industry to know when you're done and to cash out. Did Coco do it prematurely? Possibly but only she knows her limits and if she feels she hit them and wanted out we can only support her decision.

The idea that Pippa wants all the idols to be distinct but views them as samey seems that she doesn't follow hololive at all since even within a given branch, every performer fills a certain role or acts in a certain way but it takes a long ass time for them to get there. Just within EN we have an out of touch boomer who finds herself incredibly funny, a numberfag who is so aware of her own memes that she leans into them to pander and play the role of a psychopath, a bumpkin who radiates so much zoomer energy that it's no wonder she's now the absolute top in the industry, a very relaxing artist who has a sense of humor so terrible it loops back into being funny, and DarkSydePhil if his clowning and toxic behavior was actually endearing.
Also it’s been said here before, but saying Nintendo doesn’t innovate is asinine. They just have dated business practices but are pretty good at breaking the mold hardware-wise.
Even in terms of software they will at least try new things even if they might not work. Its only pokemon where there is a clear lack of innovation.
They want Pippa to fall in line with someone like Iori who is "seiso" but also terrible boring.
Motherfucker, I dont watch small vtubers for the seiso bullshit, I want something I havent seen before, or at least that isnt so full of faggotry.
Most indies are horrifically boring; I should know, I'm one of them. Every once in a while you run into a diamond in the rough but it seems the ones that gain a footing are those who are more "chaotic" which to me looks like "behaving like a spazzy child" since just sitting down and enjoying something while being relaxing and inviting doesn't make you popular. You gotta overexaggerate everything. Without looking at those who did not have a following previously such as Nux, one big name in the indie scene is Papi. I cannot stand watching him for any length of time because he is too energetic on camera and much prefer to spend my time supporting my more low-key friends. One point in Cover's favor is that they actually have a very diverse lineup with that. If everyone were Kiara or Haachama it would be unbearable. If everyone were Ina it would be boring as fuck.
 
Pippa doing a regular ass gaming stream, explaining what's happening on screen and what the game is about.

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Management did Pippa dirty. I can understand being in trouble for playing those audio clips, but slapping her so hard she's afraid to say "church" or simply act like herself is abominable.
 
I was just there, but decided to jump out, did she say anything or did it end abruptly?. Looks like she's really having a bad time, I feel bad for her.
no idea, i had to leave because the stream was just painful, it was obvious she was not happy and it made chat sad
 
I was just there, but decided to jump out, did she say anything or did it end abruptly?. Looks like she's really having a bad time, I feel bad for her.
she basically ended it sad and than when people started talking about management in the chat she came in and said "dont talk bad about management" and "everyone is trying their best"
It was sad to see and she was even more depressed in the end than when she started
 
now i'm sad, i was looking forward to the roblox and minecraft server stream, because i was hoping some bullshit to happen, but now I dont know if she would be allowed to even have fun.

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and as i post this, she postpones the minecraft server stream, i fucking knew it.
 
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