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Yeah, Ralph Bakshi doesn't seem remotely the type that would put up with John's shit. I've seen that documentary on the Mighty Mouse DVD, and the people interviewed mention him as being a strong, sometimes overbearing personality. I think that's a part of why John ended up the way he did.OK, whatever you say, dude!
It actually may not be Tom, and if it isn't, sorry to the real Tom out there - the list of people with that kind of insider knowledge and deranged logic is very miniscule. It is someone who does know John, though, and someone who needs to take a fucking typing class. Although apparently not well enough to know that Ralph Bakshi would never go online to stan for John the way the other sycophants he listed (Mike, Vincent, Eddie) would in the past. Also someone who clearly did not read my book - there are several critical accounts of Bob Camp therein. Enjoy your friendship: I've never known anyone who had a friendship with John that wasn't on the verge of exploding at any given time, especially those who work with him.
But the two are very, very different people. Ralph had an urban upbringing in a Jewish family, an ability to keep budgets low, and an eye for sociopolitical commentary that could be subtle when it needed to be. None of which John had, and it shows.
Looking at their respective dealings with executives tells a similar story. With movies like Hey Good Lookin' and Cool World, Ralph new his work was being messed with by indifferent executives (and in the case of Cool World, Kim Basinger), but he tried to be professional about it and finished them, even if he was clearly unhappy with what was happening. John, on the other hand, always treated executives like they were Stalin, to the point of the infamous letter that got him fired, and he was no better-behaved when making The Ripping Friends. Makes me wonder what kind of shit that went down when he made those Hanna-Barbera shorts for Cartoon Network.
It's telling that when Disney made Shnookums and Meat, a series with a similar style, they gave it to people who knew how to make a show without turning it into a nightmare production (Bill Kopp, who'd already done Eek the Cat for Fox, is credited as the series creator). Just compare interviews with that show's crew to stuff like, say, Sick Little Monkeys. While hearing about what Spumco expatriates had to deal with often reads like horror stories, the Shnookums and Meat crew speak of their experience fondly despite Disney effectively burying the show.